[HN Gopher] Cliff Stoll, the mad scientist who wrote the book on...
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       Cliff Stoll, the mad scientist who wrote the book on how to hunt
       hackers (2019)
        
       Author : ColinWright
       Score  : 57 points
       Date   : 2024-03-27 20:05 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | ChrisArchitect wrote:
       | (2019)
       | 
       | Some more discussion then:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21830277
        
         | jfengel wrote:
         | I was wondering why they'd run an article with that title. It
         | sounds like an obituary.
         | 
         | Instead, it's just somebody submitting old links.
        
           | jrd259 wrote:
           | Indeed, what's up with the "mad scientist" bit?
        
             | delecti wrote:
             | Given his presentation style, that isn't a farfetched
             | description.
        
               | quesera wrote:
               | One of my favorite parts of _Cuckoo 's Egg_ is when Cliff
               | asks a lawyer if he should wear a tie to court.
               | 
               | The lawyer responds something along the lines of "At your
               | level of abstraction, it doesn't make any difference".
        
       | funkyjazz wrote:
       | The Cuckoo's Egg - Really enjoyed reading it when I was growing
       | up. Required reading for everyone.
        
       | pvg wrote:
       | Cliff Stoll is also an HN user and well-known
       | nonorientablesurfacemonger. You can read him in action most
       | recently here:
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39249938
        
       | Ajay-p wrote:
       | @CliffStoll is one of my childhood heroes. I ordered a Klein
       | bottle and he drew a picture on the invoice and it melted my
       | heart. It is now a prized possession framed on a wall next to
       | Kevin Mitnick's business card.
        
         | geephroh wrote:
         | I was replying to say the same -- I even kept the shipping box
         | which he decorated as well.
         | 
         | He embodies so much of the genuine intellectual curiosity,
         | creativity, and joy of the early Internet. A really good human!
        
       | sys32768 wrote:
       | Definitely read his book The Cuckoo's Egg. Terrific story and
       | prose.
       | 
       | Then check out the old Nova documentary about the story: The KGB,
       | The Computer, and Me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGv5BqNL164
        
       | drpossum wrote:
       | I read Silicon Snakeoil when I was much younger in the internet's
       | infancy and though it was completely out of touch. I think even
       | he has admitted it didn't pan out has he predicted.
       | 
       | Now that the internet is reaching its final form I'm not so sure
       | anymore
        
       | quesera wrote:
       | Cliff Stoll was an unwelcome demonstration that not _all_ adults
       | are as clueless as they appear to disaffected, smarter-than-thou
       | teenagers.
       | 
       | Cliff showed that a smart adult with an outsized curiosity and
       | more than a bit of persistence, could keep up -- and even marshal
       | resources to reassert the dominance of order and adulthood.
       | 
       | This was a good lesson, at the right time, for many people!
       | 
       | Also, _Cuckoo 's Egg_ is an entertaining story. I read it again a
       | few years ago, and I enjoyed it more this time than I did when it
       | was published. :)
        
       | patcon wrote:
       | https://archive.is/iS8NV
        
       | pavel_lishin wrote:
       | God, I just saw his name on HN, and was afraid he'd died.
        
         | caycep wrote:
         | yeah this week has spooky mojo
        
         | alienbirds wrote:
         | I also thought this was an obit, relieved it is not
        
       | mrbluecoat wrote:
       | Cliff's book was my first introduction to cybersecurity - a
       | fantastic read with principles that hold true today. _Stealing
       | the Network: The Complete Series Collector 's Edition_ and Kevin
       | Mitnick's books are also great.
        
       | cowmix wrote:
       | When I had my little ISP here in Arizona back in the early 90s, I
       | gave every new customer a copy of the Cuckoo's Egg.
        
       | beej71 wrote:
       | One of my life's highlights was getting to meet him when I went
       | to his house to buy a Klein bottle. Such a great and admirable
       | human being.
        
         | BurningFrog wrote:
         | I had a similar experience!
        
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