[HN Gopher] In B-Flat (2009)
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In B-Flat (2009)
Author : Keegs
Score : 167 points
Date : 2024-03-25 21:49 UTC (1 days ago)
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| ziofill wrote:
| <3
| seanhunter wrote:
| Really lovely idea and brilliant execution.
|
| For people who don't get the reference, one of the defining
| pieces of the Minimalist movement in 20th century music[1] was
| "In C" by Terry Riley[2]. Minimalist pieces often (but don't
| always) include elements of non-determinsm like in this.
|
| [1] Minimalism here doesn't mean "not many notes" it means
| deliberately restricting the range of harmonic and rhythmic
| materials available to the composer. Steve Reich, Philip Glass,
| John Adams, and Arvo Part represent well-known composers with
| very different takes on the style if you want to check out more.
|
| [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_C to read about "In C" or
| try
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbTn79x-mrI&pp=ygUQaW4gYyB0Z...
| as an example performance.
| croisillon wrote:
| that reminds me Nyman's "In Re Don Giovanni"
| jahnu wrote:
| Agreed! Such a lovely simple effective idea.
|
| Also reminds me of
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po%C3%A8me_symphonique
| gnulinux wrote:
| > Minimalism here doesn't mean "not many notes" it means
| deliberately restricting the range of harmonic and rhythmic
| materials available to the composer
|
| This is not necessarily what minimalism means. Minimalism is
| just an abstraction for certain kinds of art, possibly with
| various incompatible techniques. For some artists (not just
| musicians, but also painters, poets etc) minimalism means
| "repetition"-ism i.e. art with excessive amount of repetition
| to the point that you'd normally expect it to be "boring" but
| it somehow uses it to its favor with rhythmic, harmonic, or
| formal techniques. Philip Glass is the pioneer of this idea in
| music, and I personally consider him one of the most creative
| and groundbreaking artists ever lived. His music is very tonal,
| "simple" and repetitive in his oeuvre (i.e. repetition not just
| in one work, but repetition among his body of works like
| minimalist painters Mondrian and Rothko) which makes him a very
| _very_ controversial musician, some critics considering him a
| charlatan. To me, he 's a Schoenbergian figure who is making a
| bombastic and over-the-top artistic statement by going against
| the current of his artistic tradition while remaining firmly in
| it. Similarly, Schoenberg was also considered a charlatan
| during his life, especially early on.
|
| For those interested, I recommend this composition:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKJoQ8BfQhw (full on spotify,
| sorry)
|
| Oh also if you ever think "classical music doesn't have a
| cultural force anymore" please pay attention to contemporary
| film music that's not neo-romanticist. You'll see that there is
| tons of minimalist influence from Glass, Reich, Andriessen,
| Richter etc...
| BeFlatXIII wrote:
| > Oh also if you ever think "classical music doesn't have a
| cultural force anymore" please pay attention to contemporary
| film music that's not neo-romanticist. You'll see that there
| is tons of minimalist influence from Glass, Reich,
| Andriessen, Richter etc...
|
| And music from horror movies and battle scenes if you want to
| hear the contemporary influence of serialism and new
| complexity.
| gnrlst wrote:
| This was a delightful experience
| zote wrote:
| Best thing I've seen on the internet this year
| nickradford wrote:
| This brought a smile to my face :D
| epiccoleman wrote:
| God, I love this kind of thing. Beautiful!
| gryfft wrote:
| I remember showing this to a roommate's mom over a decade ago.
| She wondered aloud if it was like The Emperor's New Clothes or if
| we simply didn't understand music well enough to know why we
| shouldn't enjoy this.
|
| I still like it, whatever it says about me.
| npinsker wrote:
| I like it too. It's an experiment in musical texture -- not to
| downplay the curation involved in getting a nice mix of
| instruments, which I'm sure took some skill.
|
| To me, it's a bit similar to Skrillex or Rite of Spring, both
| of which I like almost completely because of their texture. If
| you like it, if you don't, that's fine -- no need to be
| prescriptivist about it. At the end of the day it's all just
| vibrations.
| timvdalen wrote:
| What suggests that you shouldn't like it?
| dang wrote:
| Related:
|
| _In B-Flat_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15941838 -
| Dec 2017 (43 comments)
| nerdponx wrote:
| I really enjoyed these 3 together:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOSfM2V8EkI
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB7NxVpskI0
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmKWkiDAm5k
|
| Great atmosphere. Makes me think of a good video game soundtrack.
| Interestingly they don't sound good if you only play 2 of them,
| you need all 3 to pull the harmony together.
| AlecSchueler wrote:
| Doesn't run on mobile, which is fine not everything has to. But
| could someone describe the page for those of us who can't right
| now?
| saurik wrote:
| It is a grid of embedded YouTube videos, each one of which
| including "in B-flat" or "in Bb" in the title (and so are
| pretty much all someone playing some random song on some random
| instrument... in B-flat).
| InitialLastName wrote:
| On my Pixel 6A + Firefox it says it doesn't run but runs fine
| if I click through the dialog.
|
| It's a grid of youtube embeds linking videos of people playing
| simple, improvised sequences in Bb on different instruments.
| They can be played in different orders, combinations and
| overlaps to create different textures.
| skywhopper wrote:
| It's a grid of Youtube videos, each of someone playing a
| musical instrument of various sorts (electric guitar, piano,
| clarinet, marimba, muted trumpet, voice, KAOSS synth pad, a
| Nintendo DS), making music in the key of B-flat major. The
| instructions are to start the videos at any time and in any
| order. By doing so, the audio of each overlays each other and
| since they are all in tune with each other, it all sounds like
| the timing could have been intentional. Each video is about 90
| seconds long and you can press play again on each to repeat it
| if you like.
|
| It reminds me (presumably intentionally) of Terry Riley's "In
| C" in which any number of musicians on any instruments perform
| together on stage. All following the same tempo, they each have
| a set of music giving several dozen short sequences of notes.
| They each, individually, decide when to come in, how many times
| to repeat each sequence, and when to move on to the next
| sequence. As the piece continues, the soundscape is constantly
| evolving in an unpredictable way, but always in tune with each
| other and pleasant in its harmony. Each time it's performed,
| even by all the same musicians, then, it sounds different, yet
| the same. It's a really fascinating piece and if you get the
| chance to see it performed live, I highly recommend it, because
| it's a lot of fun to watch the musicians themselves experience
| the performance and feed off each other.
|
| Check out this YouTube search for a variety of live
| performances:
| https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=in+c+live
| AlecSchueler wrote:
| Thanks for your insightful answer. I've long been a fan of In
| C and various performances so I'll certainly be looking
| forward to experiencing this tonight.
| betweenness wrote:
| I enjoyed playing with this. On a different note, do you gather
| data about the different ways visitors play the videos?
| cglendenning wrote:
| I am deeply offended by the key of Bb. </dryhumor>
| dylan604 wrote:
| If you get one more note wrong, we'll all be flat
| ta988 wrote:
| Getting some Godspeed you Black Emperor vibes
| recursive wrote:
| > In Bb doesn't run properly on mobile devices. Please use a
| laptop/desktop. If you'd like to try anyway please click OK.
|
| But I am running this on a laptop.
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