[HN Gopher] As AI booms, land near nuclear power plants becomes ...
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       As AI booms, land near nuclear power plants becomes hot real estate
        
       Author : rntn
       Score  : 25 points
       Date   : 2024-03-25 21:01 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | p1esk wrote:
       | So, is this a good investment opportunity, what do you all think?
        
         | noman-land wrote:
         | Yeah, do it.
        
         | passwordoops wrote:
         | I think the bubble is starting to pop. Insiders are taking
         | profits (1), which is usually a good sign that the darlings
         | will fall back to earth soon.
         | 
         | (1)
         | https://www.ft.com/content/3bcc3949-0bf6-4f41-bc46-57cbb0df3...
        
         | pavel_lishin wrote:
         | Oh yeah, you gotta keep the Basilisk at bay.
        
       | reqo wrote:
       | > The facilities will reportedly consume as much as 13 percent of
       | the plant's output.
       | 
       | Why are AI products being shipped so aggressively despite being
       | so inefficient? Is code autocompletion and generating random
       | images really worth so much electricity? Shouldn't we wait until
       | the research has created an efficient architecture that is easily
       | scalable first?
        
         | tithe wrote:
         | For the same reason HDD companies shipped 100, 200, 300... GB
         | drives instead of jumping straight to 1 TB: there's money to be
         | made in the middle.
        
         | jjcm wrote:
         | > Shouldn't we wait until research has created an efficient
         | architecture that is easily scalable first?
         | 
         | A scalable architecture has a prerequisite of known product
         | requirements and known implementation specs. Neither is true
         | right now as this field is evolving at a crazy rate. Approaches
         | like what Groq has are great for increasing efficiency, but at
         | the cost of flexibility. Early on in any technology flexibility
         | is imperative until product/market fit is established more
         | clearly.
         | 
         | Also reducing this to autocompletion/generating random images
         | really reduces what AI actually is. Those are two use cases for
         | a very generalizable area.
        
         | ajmurmann wrote:
         | What a bizarre question. Me and many others are paying $20+ for
         | these services. The electricity cost is already priced in and
         | subscribers looks at the price and are fine with that price. If
         | the price comes from dev costs, electricity, capital expenses
         | etc. is irrelevant. There are really no alternatives either
         | (well, I could go to 99Designs, pay $100 and wait days). People
         | pay a lot for this and every day new use cases get discovered,
         | so clearly more services like this get built.
         | 
         | Edit: " Shouldn't we wait until the research has created an
         | efficient architecture that is easily scalable first?"
         | 
         | Who is "we"? If I think I can offer a product that uses AI and
         | after paying API requests to OpenAI I can turn a profit, I'll
         | build it. API requests will only get cheaper, but why should I
         | wait for that if I can turn a profit now?
        
         | TheDudeMan wrote:
         | If you want to be last, sure.
        
       | juitpykyk wrote:
       | Imagine how much electricity will be needed to replace 1 billion
       | jobs with AI in the next 5 years.
        
         | ajmurmann wrote:
         | Imagine the compensation for a job where the ceiling is "what
         | would the electricity for AI cost to have AI do it?"
        
       | seydor wrote:
       | well if real estate investors are pumping the value of bare land,
       | i will be stocking on popcorn to watch the bubble popping
        
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