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       Electronic project kits: hands on with a vintage 160-in-1 (2016)
        
       Author : rwmj
       Score  : 40 points
       Date   : 2024-03-21 18:12 UTC (4 days ago)
        
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       | rwmj wrote:
       | Also a link to the manual:
       | http://www.zpag.net/Electroniques/Kit/160_manual.pdf
        
       | Cheyana wrote:
       | I had the Science Fair 150-in-1 kit. It really takes me back to
       | my tinkering. I saw one some years ago on Ebay (among other
       | childhood things) but I thought it's best left to memories.
        
       | donglebix wrote:
       | Wow what a flashback, I'm pretty sure my dad had this exact model
       | in the 80s. I'm remembering most of the components in the
       | picture, amazing. Thank you HN
        
       | brudgers wrote:
       | I have an unused breadboard. I bought a couple of Radio Shack
       | Science Fair kits a few months ago.
       | 
       | The scale and design of the Radio Shack kits has worked for me
       | and I have actually tinkered after decades of being off put by
       | breadboards.
       | 
       | The Radio Shack kits are not professional tools which is a
       | feature not a bug. If you have always wanted to play with
       | electronics, it might be worth picking one up on eBay.
       | 
       | Or not.
        
       | anonzzzies wrote:
       | I had Philips ones when I 5-6 in the 70s. I ran downstairs even
       | morning before school etc to build things. It was excellent. Now
       | you can get everything for peanuts but those things were magical
       | at the time.
        
         | squarefoot wrote:
         | Philips EE8 (or EE20)? I had it as well; spent countless hours
         | having fun with various experiments. I recall years later
         | finding its manual and converting the 1st stage of the radio
         | receiver experiment to use a silicon transistor. Was mostly a
         | trial and error process than proper design, but it worked quite
         | well.
        
       | proee wrote:
       | I picked up a few of these as a kid at garage sales. Spent hours
       | wiring up circuits that sometimes worked.
       | 
       | These kits, plus the Radio Shack Forrest Mims books, will always
       | have a special place in my heart.
        
       | jauntywundrkind wrote:
       | I loved these things, major flashback. I was already on the path,
       | but as a Computer Engineer to be, I gobbled this stuff up!
       | 
       | But also, I confess: I don't feel like I really learned that much
       | from it. I already had a rudimentary Ohms law & binary logic
       | understandings in elementary school, and most of the projects
       | either were obvious from that premise, or were way way above my
       | head & quasi-magical. I loved these things, they were
       | inspirational, but I struggle to recall learning much from them.
        
         | HarHarVeryFunny wrote:
         | Yeah, I had one too, but similar feelings. Enjoyed it, but
         | didn't learn much if anything. Had much more fun later bread-
         | boarding digital circuits as part of comp-sci at uni. Building
         | a traffic light (LED) sequence generator out of flip-flops
         | built from NAND gates was basic but fun!
        
           | FullyFunctional wrote:
           | That was _exactly_ my experience as well. I 'm not really
           | sure why that was, but I think that the breadboard scaled
           | much farther and could be extended with more of them (mine
           | were interlocking). I built some moderately complex circuits,
           | but debugging them could be fairly tedious.
        
       | tasty_freeze wrote:
       | The 65-in-1 kit was one of my treasured childhood experiences
       | (circa 1974). I ended up with a degree in electrical engineering,
       | though I was probably on that path anyway.
       | 
       | The highlight was when I was futzing with a slow oscillator and
       | accidentally discovered that using using the speaker transformer
       | as a voltage step up I could get the inductive voltage spike when
       | the relay switched to give a painful shock.
       | 
       | I wrote down that wiring diagram so I wouldn't lose it. One of my
       | brothers had built a 9V variable power supply in a high school
       | shop class, so we made use of that to create a pain game: hold
       | the two leads and turn up the 9V supply output until you gave up.
       | Whoever got the voltage knob the highest won. Our arm muscles
       | would be involuntarily twitching, like a TENS unit.
       | 
       | The other game was one person would hide it in the house
       | somewhere, say a closet, and the other person would use an AM
       | radio to locate it, as the spike would release broadband RF
       | energy which could be picked up by the radio. The closer one was
       | the louder the clicking would come out of the speaker.
        
         | JohnFen wrote:
         | Oh, boy, I had that 65-in-1 set too. It was transformative and
         | is why I'm a dev now, in an indirect way. That kit made me
         | interested in electronics, which got me to take a digital
         | electronics class, which is where I was exposed to programming.
         | As a kid in a very poor family, I couldn't afford to buy parts,
         | but I had access to a mainframe computer for free -- so I
         | shifted my focus to programming.
         | 
         | I still do hobbyist electronics to this day.
        
       | MattPalmer1086 wrote:
       | I had one of these, not sure of the exact model. I built AM
       | transmitters, radio receivers, break-the-light-beam alarms, all
       | kinds of things. Magical things when I was a kid.
        
       | Lariscus wrote:
       | I looked up some science kits recently and was quite
       | disappointed. Nobody produces anything close to the great kits I
       | used to enjoy as teenager. I was especially fond of my chemistry
       | set. The new versions all seem neutered in comparison. I guess
       | science kits can't compete with all the distractions available to
       | modern teenagers, and these kits were quite expensive making them
       | probably a hard sell. Still, I wish someone would make these
       | again.
        
         | fullspectrumdev wrote:
         | Old style chemistry sets with actual glassware and actual
         | chemicals seemed to die a painful death during the GWoT and
         | meth lab panics of the early to mid 2000's.
         | 
         | They were _fantastic_ fun too.
        
         | 01100011 wrote:
         | Yeah, this. I suspect I'll have to cobble something together
         | myself for my kid. I have fond memories of making crystal
         | gardens, distilling wood gas, bending glass tubes, making
         | gunpowder, etc.
        
       | fullspectrumdev wrote:
       | I had one of these growing up, absolutely fantastic bit of kit
       | for learning. Eventually ended up taking it apart for components,
       | which in hindsight was a bloody stupid idea.
       | 
       | Might find one on eBay...
        
       | 01100011 wrote:
       | I had one of these when I was around 6-8 years old. I did a few
       | of the projects, but never spent much time with it until I
       | realized I could hook up each part to an extension cord and when
       | I plugged in the extension cord the part would explode.
       | 
       | I spent a lot of time as a kid just making sparks. I loved taking
       | batteries, wire, and a steel file and running the wire up and
       | down the file while it sparked.
       | 
       | Totally brainless, yet somehow I still managed to become a EE and
       | an extra-class HAM.
        
       | mysterydip wrote:
       | I literally just found my 200-in-1 electronics kit instruction
       | book in a storage bin today. Taught me a lot about electronics
       | back in the day. Last thing I remember making on it was a crystal
       | radio.
        
       | StillBored wrote:
       | I had one of the radioshack models in the 1980's as well. It was
       | really helpful for learning basic circuits, but while it had a
       | number of more advanced circuits, including three of four AM
       | radio receivers, and a transmitter or two, I never really learned
       | anything from those circuits despite reading the book a half
       | dozen times. Looking at the 150 in one manual, the first
       | transistor circuit is a basic small signal amplifier with the
       | base connected to a coil. And now with a formal EE/CpE education,
       | I can understand how/why it works and the biasing resistors, but
       | I'm just as convinced that the book is largely useless except as
       | a toy beyond the first dozen or two circuits because it doesn't
       | do anything to explain the hows and whys of the circuits.
       | 
       | The modern equivalent of course are Snap Circuits
       | https://elenco.com/snapcircuits/ but having purchased one of the
       | larger kits for my kids a couple years back I think they suffer
       | from the same basic problem. Sure telling 10 year old me about
       | BJT biasing might have been a bit much, but I really think it
       | should have been included in some kind of side note even if it
       | doesn't sink in the first time.
       | 
       | PS: Actually thinking back on it, these spring board ones are
       | probably better from the perspective that a blown component was
       | easy to replace simply by pulling out the cardboard flipping it
       | over and disconnecting the component from the springs underside.
        
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