[HN Gopher] California Income-based electric bills
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       California Income-based electric bills
        
       Author : rasengan0
       Score  : 5 points
       Date   : 2024-03-23 20:37 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | proc0 wrote:
       | This would be the final straw for me and I would have to move
       | states. It's unbelievable what these state employees spend their
       | time on, as if they are some kind of lordship ruling over the
       | peasants.
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       | > But amid the debate over rate design, we've lost sight of the
       | much bigger challenge of how to bring down utility costs overall
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       | You increase supply!! Build more nuclear!! Then it will be cheap
       | for everyone. But nooo, somehow the cost of nuclear is more than
       | the cost of climate change.
        
         | jsyang00 wrote:
         | pretty much nothing the rotten state of California does should
         | constitute a surprise to anyone anymore
        
         | throwaway5959 wrote:
         | Nuclear would be more expensive than the solar, wind and
         | battery storage tech we're building out now. Please do some
         | research before you comment on posts here, this isn't X.
        
           | Newlaptop wrote:
           | Nuclear is only expensive because we've spent decades
           | bureaucratically strangling it with red tape.
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           | The technology exists to safely do nuclear at low cost. We
           | just need to remove the billions of dollars wasted in
           | intentionally-bad regulatory processes that were written into
           | law to prevent nuclear from being successful.
        
       | drewg123 wrote:
       | Beyond cost, what is stopping somebody from going off grid, and
       | relying entirely on their own solar + battery system? Is there
       | some law that makes this illegal? If not, it seems like this
       | would cause a lot of upper income folks to just disconnect from
       | the grid.
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       | I've never had such unreliable power as I had when I lived in
       | Mountain View (and I've lived in Buffalo, NY and in the hurricane
       | alley in North Carolina). PG&E is a disaster.
        
       | atsaloli wrote:
       | "From each according to his ability, to each according to his
       | needs!"
        
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