[HN Gopher] Feedle: A search engine for blogs and podcasts
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       Feedle: A search engine for blogs and podcasts
        
       Author : microflash
       Score  : 178 points
       Date   : 2024-03-23 13:23 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | fabianholzer wrote:
       | Cool idea, I like that you can follow the queries as feed.
       | 
       | The crux will be maintaining a well-curated/reviewed list of
       | feeds.
       | 
       | Also: the submit form seems to be broken - leads to the landing
       | page of some form builder saas.
        
       | bsmth wrote:
       | That's quite cool. How are feeds added? Is it all manual curation
       | and submissions?
        
         | microflash wrote:
         | There's a link in the header to submit your own feed. Sadly
         | that link didn't work for me.
        
           | popey wrote:
           | Seems fixed now, I just submitted a podcast feed.
        
           | p5v wrote:
           | It's a known issue for a portion of our visitors, which we
           | are working on. For the time being, you can use the direct
           | link to the form: https://tally.so/r/mJ11E7
        
       | yakkomajuri wrote:
       | This is in some ways similar to something I built recently:
       | 
       | https://app.recessfeed.com/
       | 
       | We seem to have similar ideas, so would love to have a chat! This
       | line aligns a lot with what I have in mind:
       | 
       | "Discover content creators you may not know about"
        
       | hexage1814 wrote:
       | It's a cool idea but I really don't like the front-end being used
       | in the site. For instance, if you try to select the footer
       | element, to block it, instead of the site showing you "#footer"
       | (or something legible), it shows you something like
       | ".lg\:px-8.sm\:px-6.px-4.max-w-7xl.mx-auto > .py-16". As well as
       | it adding a "?ref=feedle.world" in all links you click by
       | default. Also it would be nice an option that automatically loads
       | more when you scroll down.
       | 
       | Oh, and that "Welcome to feedle!" popup seems like dark pattern
       | to me.
        
         | SamWhited wrote:
         | I would have said the same thing about infinite scrolling; that
         | always feels like a dark pattern to me because it makes it hard
         | to find specific results again, hard (or impossible) to get to
         | any links in the page footer, etc.
         | 
         | I always just want a single page that I can link back to later
         | :)
        
           | hexage1814 wrote:
           | To me, I think it depends on what is the goal when you are
           | searching something and what is that data in particular.
           | Infinite scroll and pagination offer different user
           | experience proposes, and make different assumptions about the
           | user.
           | 
           | To give a blatant example where I don't see a pagination
           | system making that much sense, pagination on a personalized
           | news feed of some social media. That information is changing
           | constantly. It's a never-ending information stream.
           | 
           | Even in the case here, if you are searching for a blog or
           | podcast, you could just link that blog article rather than
           | the page search where you found that article. Especially in a
           | situation where you don't have any interaction with that
           | content aside clicking on it. Especially when the search
           | engine doesn't seem to have millions of results, which seems
           | to be the case here, it seems to be a relatively small list
           | of blogs submitted to this site.
           | 
           | Infinite scroll on the other hand have some problems
           | especially in situations where you are expect to interact
           | with that content one way or the other (such as a commentary
           | section). In fact, when dealing with really large amounts of
           | data, it essentially buries that data. Think about a
           | commentary section with 60.000 commentaries. Essentially 98%
           | of them are hidden way because the browser will crash before
           | loading them. So if you decide to go down infinite scroll
           | route, I think the very least you could do would be offer
           | another way to search for stuff, such as search option inside
           | the commentary section (although nobody does that). But I
           | think a pagination system would be better in that situation.
           | 
           | Anyway, just some food for thoughts.
        
             | quest88 wrote:
             | IMO pagination makes sense with feeds when a feed can be
             | sorted in some ordering. I'd rather jump to page 6 instead
             | of scrolling and scrolling and scrolling to get back.
        
             | ktosobcy wrote:
             | Actually because of the infinite scroll and basically
             | mental way that social media works I gave it up...
             | 
             | No, it's not constantly changing. There was a publication
             | at rhw certain time and it can be shown at that time
             | (ideally you can have inbox with unread entries). Right no
             | it's impossible to follow anything in any sane manner...
             | 
             | to that end I use only RSS and from social perspective I
             | added a couple of reddit sub feeds there and that's all...
        
         | Starlevel004 wrote:
         | This is the end result of the tailwindification of the
         | internet.
        
         | l5870uoo9y wrote:
         | Its TailwindCSS. Classes are CSS, can't really match those.
        
         | mm263 wrote:
         | What's the use case, in your opinion, for an average user to
         | inspect the footer? Or any element on that website for that
         | purpose?
        
           | persnickety wrote:
           | Average users can't or don't need to be helped. Let's think
           | more about those who have special needs.
        
             | mm263 wrote:
             | Is the assumption here that Tailwind classes are somehow
             | not A11Y compliant? That's false, you can both use Tailwind
             | and make website fully accessible, reader-compatible.
        
               | persnickety wrote:
               | When you try to alter the style of a calendar, in order
               | to be able to read the text more clearly, if making the
               | style of the date readable turns the title into garbage
               | (because there's no semantic information, only they
               | happen to share the same visual class), then someone is
               | going to have a hard time using your website because of
               | your decisions not taking into account their needs.
               | 
               | (This is a slightly tweaked real life example; it was
               | adjusting the style for printing so that the calendar was
               | accessible offline.)
        
       | robrenaud wrote:
       | What kind of queries do you handle well? Do you index podcast
       | transcripts?
        
       | msmarvel wrote:
       | Cool idea, does a blog need to be submitted? There's a movie blog
       | I didn't see in the search
        
         | BadHumans wrote:
         | There's a submit button in the header. Top right on desktop.
        
       | culopatin wrote:
       | The icon color and name made me think this was Feedly not Feedle,
       | took a moment to understand they were unrelated
        
       | culopatin wrote:
       | Could be nice to have an "I'm feeling lucky"
        
         | miniman1337 wrote:
         | stumbleupon 2.0
        
           | culopatin wrote:
           | Same as high waisted wide jeans, everything is coming back
        
         | p5v wrote:
         | It's very high on our list. Optimistically, we are going to
         | release that feature by the end of next week.
        
       | Redster wrote:
       | Thanks so much for building this. Very cool. In addition, making
       | clear that the feeds are embeddable in Obsidian is just great.
       | Will see how well this searches and will start using today!
        
       | Redster wrote:
       | What are you using to index the blogs and podcasts?
        
         | Redster wrote:
         | And do you permit people to submit blogs and podcasts that they
         | don't own? That's unclear at the moment.
        
       | mdaniel wrote:
       | damn shame there doesn't seem to be a search facet for saying
       | "only podcasts" since I don't need another search engine for
       | webpages
        
       | iLoveOncall wrote:
       | The link to submit a new blog or podcast doesn't work, it
       | redirects to the homepage of a form builder service.
        
         | p5v wrote:
         | It's a known issue for a portion of our visitors, which we are
         | working on. For the time being, you can use the direct link to
         | the form: https://tally.so/r/mJ11E7
        
       | horsh1 wrote:
       | As with the majority of the recent search startups: no hiragana,
       | no hebrew, no cyrillic.
        
         | p5v wrote:
         | Co-creator here: we have multi-language support on the backend
         | site, but it is still in a bit of an experimental stage at the
         | moment. Not all posts are being attributed the right language,
         | so we are still experimenting there. For the time being, EN-
         | language blogs are our first priority. That said, we will beta-
         | launch the multi-language support very soon.
        
       | rubymamis wrote:
       | Found some interesting blog posts using this, thanks!
        
       | Vox_Leone wrote:
       | The world needs blogs, repositories of long-form original
       | thinking on the Internet. As a blogger I appreciate the
       | opportunity to place my link. I salute your initiative and wish
       | you success!
        
         | samstave wrote:
         | True,
         | 
         | And it will be great when a service such as this has a auto-
         | crawler, categorizer LLM that takes all the content in the repo
         | and groups them together based on content context tagging - so
         | a diasproa of blog posts from anyone/where about [TOPIC] could
         | be groupded, and even compared...
         | 
         | "Show me all the blog posts on [TOPIC] but show me the top
         | opposing opinions on said [TOPIC]"
         | 
         | Or "show me all the folks who have consensus on [SUBJECT]"
         | 
         | etc.
        
           | Redster wrote:
           | That sounds very useful. I wonder if that might be more in
           | the wheel house of a search engine like the folks at Kagi?
           | I'm trying to think of what is the closest thing to this that
           | exists.
        
         | codazoda wrote:
         | The "Submit" link just takes me to the Tally home page. I
         | wonder if the link is broken of if they exceeded a limit.
        
           | codazoda wrote:
           | This is a known bug. There are form links elsewhere in these
           | comments.
        
         | monksy wrote:
         | I agree with you.. but there is a lot of issues related to
         | blogging that has caused it's decline in popularity. (I.e.
         | content aggrigation, cross connection social comment features,
         | reduction of spam in discovering/blog reputation, etc)
         | 
         | For me I have a blog but I'm struggling to write for it because
         | I don't have an audience that makes the blog valuable for me.
        
           | yakkomajuri wrote:
           | Would love to hear if you think there's a solution to this.
           | 
           | I have some ideas, which I wrote about here:
           | https://github.com/yakkomajuri/recess/blob/main/manifesto-
           | is...
           | 
           | Curious if you think this makes sense.
        
       | littlestymaar wrote:
       | Since the creators are here: how are you going to defend against
       | SEO spam? Curation when adding the blog to the index wont work as
       | anyone could make a reasonable-looking blog with AI generated
       | articles in just a few hours and after you've added it to the
       | index push a ton of aggressive spam.
        
       | drewolbrich wrote:
       | I'd like to submit my blog, but I can't.
       | 
       | The "Submit your blog or podcast" button at the top of the page
       | takes me to an advertisement for an unrelated website.
        
         | jimkleiber wrote:
         | I found the answer in a different reply:
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39801350
        
       | john-tells-all wrote:
       | I adore the idea of a podcast/blog search engine! And results can
       | be streamed via RSS, wonderful! I use Feedly to subscribe to
       | important RSS feeds, including specific Hacker News authors.
       | 
       | Current database is a bit light: it didn't have "Science Vs", a
       | popular podcast. Added.
       | 
       | For comparison, https://www.podchaser.com/ only has podcasts but
       | it's more fleshed out.
        
       | messiah_complex wrote:
       | To the creators: I've already read three very interesting blog
       | posts that I never would have read otherwise. Well done.
        
       | azhenley wrote:
       | Minor feedback: After doing a search with 0 results, there is a
       | "load more" button that doesn't do anything.
        
       | treetalker wrote:
       | Awesome project, thanks for putting it together and sharing it
       | with us!
       | 
       | A suggestion: allow users to flag dead links for removal.
       | 
       | I searched for "task management". One or more results led to
       | pages that are 404/no longer exist. I'd like to help you remove
       | those results. My suggestion seems appropriate because users add
       | Feedle's links in the first place.
        
       | gtirloni wrote:
       | A search for "Kubernetes" shows a ton of corporate "blogs".
        
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