[HN Gopher] OpenCat: Open-source robotic pet quadruped framework
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       OpenCat: Open-source robotic pet quadruped framework
        
       Author : kristianpaul
       Score  : 89 points
       Date   : 2024-03-22 19:25 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.petoi.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.petoi.com)
        
       | mysterydip wrote:
       | Presented with a signup popup modal before I could even scroll
       | down to read the first paragraph. I get you want engagement, but
       | that's too aggressive for me. Page closed.
        
         | gobsmacker wrote:
         | Do you feel like this focus on minutia versus substance has led
         | you to miss otherwise insightful content?
        
           | exe34 wrote:
           | I instinctively closed the popup, so I have no idea what I
           | just agreed to...
        
       | skadamat wrote:
       | GitHub page is better & cleaner for those curious:
       | https://github.com/PetoiCamp/OpenCat
        
       | jimsmart wrote:
       | I have Bittle, their Open Source robot dog. Got it when they were
       | doing the kickstarter.
       | 
       | It's pretty cool :)
        
       | A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote:
       | Super neat. I am slowly trying to get my kid into the space so I
       | will be watching this one.
       | 
       | Incidentally, if anyone can share similiar efforts or kid ready
       | sets, I would love to hear about it.
        
         | tamimio wrote:
         | Depends on their age and what level, there are "toys" you can
         | buy with some visual programming like DJI robomaster, or
         | advanced ones that actually use real lidar and stereo cam with
         | ROS like AgileX limo (original price is $1000 btw, if a
         | reseller is selling it for more they are just gauging the
         | price), and also there are DIY ones that require 3D printing
         | and such.
        
       | gareth_untether wrote:
       | Charles Stross's Accelerando comes to mind.
        
       | nimbius wrote:
       | The price to adopt a real cat is ~100usd in most states. Why not
       | just get a cat? This projects like 300usd.
        
         | ksenzee wrote:
         | Total cost of ownership of a cat is considerably more than
         | $300, unless you plan to make your cat hunt its own food, fail
         | to license it, and never take it to the vet.
        
           | wccrawford wrote:
           | And it never destroys anything.
        
             | nimbius wrote:
             | So we already known the TCO of the product and the TCO of a
             | cat, and we know the product will never cause damage due to
             | a battery fire for example.
             | 
             |  _sigh_ if you want to build a robot, build one. Quit
             | calling them cats and dogs. The marketing is cheezy.
        
           | aj7 wrote:
           | But live cat ships with much better software. It's not close.
        
         | lagrange77 wrote:
         | Superior interfaces.
        
         | yumraj wrote:
         | Real cats eat and shit and need medical help at times, while
         | this doesn't.
        
       | tamimio wrote:
       | Despite their cool look and visually appealing design, QUGVs are
       | still not optimal for practical real-world applications. Their
       | limited mobility in comparison to UAVs for ISR operations,
       | coupled with a mediocre payload capacity relative to traditional
       | UGVs, results in a platform that have disadvantages from both
       | categories. In my opinion, QUGVs are primarily beneficial for
       | educational purposes or just a show or a 'wow' reaction from
       | those outside the robotics field. For example, Boston Dynamics
       | cannot descend stairs in reverse last time I checked, while
       | Unitree tend to overheat rapidly, with internal components that
       | are susceptible to failure, and they are constructed with cheap
       | components, such as three Jetson Nanos, rather than a single,
       | more robust SBC, etc.
        
         | tweetle_beetle wrote:
         | You're not wrong, but probably applying a critique which is
         | irrelevant to the product under discussion. I don't think
         | potential owners of 'robotic pets' will be making purchases
         | based on maximising payload capacity, or practical real-world
         | applications.
        
         | mkoubaa wrote:
         | Humans bred cats for thousands of years for utility that had
         | nothing to do with "payload capacity"
        
       | martey wrote:
       | Both the website and the project's Github repository loudly
       | trumpet that they are "open source" next to photos of proprietary
       | hardware.
       | 
       | In https://github.com/PetoiCamp/OpenCat-Old/issues/7, the creator
       | admits that the "nyboard"
       | (https://docs.petoi.com/nyboard/overview) at the heart of their
       | robots is derived from Arduino, but insists that they don't need
       | to comply with the licensing terms for derivative boards
       | (https://support.arduino.cc/hc/en-us/articles/4415094490770-L...)
       | because Arduino is unlikely to sue them.
        
         | jonathankoren wrote:
         | Not "open" like "open source". "Open" like "OpenAI"
         | 
         | "As we get closer to building AI, it will make sense to start
         | being less open. The Open in openAI means that everyone should
         | benefit from the fruits of AI after it's built, but it's
         | totally OK to not share the science. -- Ilya Sutskever
         | https://openai.com/blog/openai-elon-musk
        
           | brookst wrote:
           | Ah so we have free as in speech, free as in beer, and free as
           | in shoplifted.
        
           | twelvechairs wrote:
           | It's standard business tactics to stretch the use of words
           | until they are no longer recognisable.
        
       | clhodapp wrote:
       | Petoi had a rep at OpenSauce in San Francisco. I picked up a
       | Nybble, because I like the look of Nybble better than Bittle.
       | 
       | It's a fun little toy and I really appreciate what Petoi are
       | doing with the robots & the OpenCat framework! However... due to
       | either a design flaw or my own subtle mistake in assembling it
       | (haven't identified which yet), the poor cat's tail is too long!
       | It hits the floor and topples the bot over!
        
       | isuckatcoding wrote:
       | Real pets looking nervously around...
       | 
       | In seriousness this is really cool! I wish I had this in school
       | for robotics learning.
        
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