[HN Gopher] Cable ISP fined $10k for lying to FCC about where it...
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       Cable ISP fined $10k for lying to FCC about where it offers
       broadband
        
       Author : kelthuzad
       Score  : 51 points
       Date   : 2024-03-22 19:25 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
        
       | 0cf8612b2e1e wrote:
       | Is this a joke? Why would you ever expect behavior to change if
       | they can get such a slap on the wrist penalty?
        
         | paulddraper wrote:
         | Maybe the FCC doesn't see the legal costs/hassle as justifying
         | going for more.
        
           | inetknght wrote:
           | Or... maybe... the FCC isn't stably funded for long enough to
           | hire investigative and enforcement officers.
        
         | viraptor wrote:
         | Because it's not just one fine. It's a fine + change to avoid
         | more fines. Which sounds like they're likely to be monitored
         | for some time.
        
       | runeofdoom wrote:
       | For their next infraction, the FCC will confiscate the petty cash
       | drawer.
        
       | randall wrote:
       | It's a small ISP, so even though 10k is probably negligible, it's
       | still non trivial probably. I can't imagine ISPs in Toronto,
       | Ohio, a city of 5000, (2000 households paying $60 = $120k)
        
       | teeray wrote:
       | Well, I guess everyone's "Regulatory Compliance Fee" is going up
       | by a couple of pennies this month
        
         | jeremyjh wrote:
         | At this rate its far cheaper to pay the fines than to pay a
         | compliance officer.
        
         | mistrial9 wrote:
         | is this seriously suggesting that enforcement of known
         | agreements with corporations providing regulated services is
         | not useful because it might cost the consumer?
        
           | teeray wrote:
           | Certainly not the intention. The intent is that opaque junk
           | fees are prone to abuse this way and we have no way of really
           | knowing that they aren't.
        
           | ajford wrote:
           | I took it that this fine isn't enough to change anything, and
           | will likely just be added to the overhead that gets snuck
           | into these opaque service charges.
           | 
           | 10k isn't even a slap on the wrist. More like picking a piece
           | of lint off the wrist.
        
       | GeekyBear wrote:
       | It would be interesting to see if this sort of fine would also
       | apply to ISPs that advertise connection speeds that are only seen
       | when connecting to a speed test site.
        
       | RKearney wrote:
       | For comparison, this is roughly the cost of a pair of coherent
       | 400G optics used in DWDM.
        
         | matt-p wrote:
         | You're buying at 5K US per end??
         | 
         | Lowest I've seen is 9,500 per optic
        
       | ChrisArchitect wrote:
       | Related:
       | 
       |  _Internet providers have left rural Americans behind. One county
       | is fighting back_
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39735300
        
       | jeremyjh wrote:
       | Also it's going to be written down in their permanent record!
        
       | fencepost wrote:
       | Seems like a simple fix - require them to provide service at a
       | normal installation fee at any location they've claimed within 10
       | days or be on the hook for the cost to that end user of getting
       | equivalent or better service installed. Throw enough zeros at a
       | different provider and they'll build out to you, and if that
       | buildout is being paid for by a nominally-incumbent local
       | provider? Even better.
       | 
       | "You don't actually have to provide fiber service within 10 days
       | at the location you said you were already servicing - but if you
       | don't you're going to be paying $100k+ to AT&T for their
       | expedited buildout to that area."
        
       | rhyme-boss wrote:
       | Less than 100x my last parking ticket.
        
       | mkhpalm wrote:
       | Devastating... at least they let the ISP keep their red stapler.
        
       | bastard_op wrote:
       | "Oh, that's it? Here's your $10k, and here's another $50k for the
       | next 5 violations too."
        
       | MisterBastahrd wrote:
       | Spectrum claims that they offer service at my address, but I've
       | had their people out twice and they do not. They offer it to the
       | rest of the neighborhood (which is a standard residential suburb)
       | but never bothered to bring it to my side of the road and have no
       | plans to do so.
        
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