[HN Gopher] Abstrusegoose.com Is Gone for Good
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Abstrusegoose.com Is Gone for Good
Probably very quirky. There was this comic ages ago Abstruse Goose,
one day, also ages ago, it stopped publishing. The page was just
white empty. And the other day, after years of the limbo the domain
finally expired. To all the lost digital content :-(
Author : ktosobcy
Score : 49 points
Date : 2024-03-22 14:29 UTC (8 hours ago)
| ChrisGranger wrote:
| https://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000*/abstrusegoose.co...
| samstave wrote:
| https://web.archive.org/web/20090214012004/http://abstrusego...
| akeck wrote:
| https://web.archive.org/web/20170428055909/http://abstrusego...
| sdwr wrote:
| Aw, I loved that site, and have checked it occasionally through
| the years, hoping for a new comic.
| NikkiA wrote:
| Yes, thus is the ephemeral nature of a commercial internet, if
| the website owner ceases to live, or ceases to do business,
| eventually their registar fees will end up unpaid, and the site
| will vanish.
|
| Never rely on anything on the internet being 'forever'.
| hiatus wrote:
| > eventually their registar fees will end up unpaid, and the
| site will vanish
|
| What is the alternative you envision?
| viraptor wrote:
| If you care about the content, mirror it on an ipfs node so
| others can download it in the future.
| brian_cloutier wrote:
| URLs resolve not to ip addresses but to some form of static
| identifier such as the hash of the content. Static sites are
| retrieved via static identifier and are therefore incredibly
| easy to cache and even extremely popular sites are cheap to
| serve because most requests never make it to the origin
| server.
|
| There is no need to visit archive.org, the internet archive
| can directly seed the content it deems worthy of archival.
| Abstrusegoose.com eventually expires and the new owner points
| it to new content but the old site sticks around
| indefinitely, it is accessible via hash for as long as
| someone seeds it.
| tremon wrote:
| That's the basic idea behind IPFS:
| https://docs.ipfs.tech/concepts/lifecycle/
| olliej wrote:
| In your proposed scheme of URL->hash, everyone is expected
| to pay a big service to host their data, so that their page
| is accessible to that service's users? Or what? It sounds
| like you're saying "use IPFS for web hosting" but that's
| famously slow and unreliable for anything not incredibly
| popular.
|
| How do you propose a person publishes their data? They get
| a domain, they create their page, they hash their page,
| they point that domain at that hash, and then what exactly?
| They update their content, compute the new hash, and then
| wait for DNS to propagate the new change?
|
| I'm serious here, I'm trying to work out how what you're
| suggesting would work for the standard use cases of
| websites, and I'm trying to work out how if it does work
| for the standard use cases it solves any of the problems
| that archive.org has to manage, or any of the features
| people use archive.org for?
|
| People don't use archive.org to ask "where did this content
| get published?" (e.g I have a hash of the page content)
| they say "what was the content at this location+time?".
| Definitionally they do not have the content, so they do not
| have the hash. They have the location, but you've just said
| the location is just the hash of the content. If you're
| saying the location of the document is the full url, not
| just the domain (the only part that involves machine
| addresses), then what is the hash for?
|
| Finally, if the location is based on hash, you don't only
| break any content that is not 100% static, you break
| encrypted content, because definitionally encrypted content
| is not static.
| blipvert wrote:
| Stating facts does not require some kind of counter
| narrative.
|
| Eventually you will die: What is the alternative that you
| envision?
| TriangleEdge wrote:
| I loved these comics. I related to a lot of them. My favorite was
| the comic about sorting Skittles by color. I think you can still
| find the comics on the internet archive. Anyone have insight to
| what happened to the author?
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| Tell HN:
| LorenDB wrote:
| This has me worried about http://hackles.org/. It's still
| running, but with no new content since 2004.
| ongy wrote:
| If you haven't heard yet, now's the time to mourn bash.org :(
| I_Am_Nous wrote:
| I love Hackles! In ~2009 I emailed Drake, the author, and asked
| if he had any kind of hint for what Hackles saw at the end, but
| nah...his girlfriend Jen did the painting and layout for the
| comics and they were broken up when I emailed him, and he had
| no plans to continue the comic in any form. We got to talk
| about Linux during the exchange, I was happy he replied :)
| forgotpwd16 wrote:
| Yeah, noticed it after someone linked a comic at IA. Anyone
| happen to have a full archive and can share? Could go through IA
| but expect someone has already done it.
| MattPalmer1086 wrote:
| Ah sad. Hadn't been an update for ages, but it was very good.
| yongjik wrote:
| Reminds me of when the xkcd forum went down - I never registered
| or commented, but it had threads for every xkcd comic, plus other
| geek discussions, some of which were quite funny. I spent hours
| reading them.
|
| And then one day there was a banner speaking of a very serious
| security breach, the forum was down, and that was it.
|
| Good things don't last. :/
| nine_k wrote:
| Good things last if somebody makes an effort to let them
| continue.
|
| This as well may be you, dear reader.
|
| If you see any content you seem to care about, make a local
| copy. Yours may happen to be the only remaining some time in
| the future.
| arrrtem wrote:
| I've downloaded everything few years ago,
| https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ARyzOcvGFZ-TG4gpZOXaAnnz9tE...
| norvig wrote:
| Thank you for archiving!
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