[HN Gopher] Show HN: Free Plain-Text Bookmarking
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Show HN: Free Plain-Text Bookmarking
Author : vasanthv
Score : 122 points
Date : 2024-03-22 12:28 UTC (10 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (webtag.io)
(TXT) w3m dump (webtag.io)
| piterrro wrote:
| Yeeeears ago (around 2011/2012) I've built a simple bookmarking
| app called Miitla (MInd IT LAter), you can still find references
| to it[1]. I was focused on providing a simple bookmarking
| experience with tags and such. Unfortunately, I was not motivated
| enough to keep updating the project and in the end, I stopped. I
| got a few thousand users, but at the time my day job was
| generating nice income and I wasn't thinking about monetizing
| Miitla.
|
| To this day, I regret that I did not pursue it and transformed
| into something bigger.
|
| Congrats on the launch, what catches my attention is the
| simplicity. Keep it like this for long enough and you will get
| many users.
|
| [1]http://ratemystartup.com/save-links-with-one-click-miitla-
| co...
| piterrro wrote:
| Here is an interesting plot twist. At the time, one of Miitla
| "competitors" was Kippt[1], I was impressed with their design
| at the time and followed them very carefully. Turns out, Kippt
| founder is Linear founder these days...
|
| Persistence is the key.
|
| [1]https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/kippt
| idlewords wrote:
| I agree persistence is key! Oddly though the kippt homepage
| doesn't seem to load for me.
| piterrro wrote:
| It has been discontinued given that Coinbase acqui-hired
| the Kippt team (2 people)
| hidelooktropic wrote:
| It's hard to understand from the description what this even is.
| Does it save your bookmarks in like a <ul> element? Is it
| clickable? What does it look like?
| accrual wrote:
| I would like something like this but self-hosted. I have a
| collection of .html bookmark files from over the years and would
| love to consolidate them all into one place without having to
| sync them to Google/Microsoft/3rd party.
| TehShrike wrote:
| Looks like the source code is all public, so self-hosted is
| probably an option: https://github.com/vasanthv/webtag
| joshka wrote:
| https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted?tab...
| accrual wrote:
| Thanks!
| TehShrike wrote:
| Sounds cool, but my bookmarks are too valuable to save on the
| servers of someone I'm not paying a subscription to :-x
| vasanthv wrote:
| This is open-source, you can spin up your own instance.
| quaintdev wrote:
| Wish this had docker image. I don't want to install npm to
| spin this up.
| nickmonad wrote:
| Create one?
| copper-float wrote:
| Just spin up an alpine Linux image with node preinstalled.
| I got the server up and running in no time.
| TehShrike wrote:
| I appreciate that, but I prefer pay someone else to keep the
| server up
| severine wrote:
| I currently use Firefox bookmarks, synced through my Mozilla
| account. What would be the advantages for me if I were to use
| Webtag?
|
| Related: does anyone know if there's any limit to synced
| bookmarks/history in Firefox?
| hardwaresofton wrote:
| Do you ever feel like Firefox is forgetting your bookmarks or
| search is bad?
|
| Not endorsing this project or any other, but from time to time
| I'm a bit suspicious that firefox is dropping some links I'm
| sure I saved/not surfacing some links I'm fairly sure were
| related to my search.
|
| Likely all in my head though!
| metadat wrote:
| The search is bad.
|
| Example: If you tag one entry with "meta" and another with
| "metaverse", then search bookmarks for "meta", you'll get the
| union of anything containing meta. Particularly problematic
| in the case of short terms like "ux", "go", or "c".
| kbrosnan wrote:
| Use the search filters.
|
| > Add ^ to show only matches in your browsing history.
|
| > Add * to show only matches in your bookmarks.
|
| > Add + to show only matches in bookmarks you've tagged.
|
| > Add % to show only matches in your currently open tabs.
|
| > Add # to show only matches where every search term is
| part of the title or part of a tag.
|
| > Add $ to show only matches where every search term is
| part of the web address (URL). The text "https://xn--ivg or
| "http://xn--ivg in the URL is ignored, but not "file:///".
|
| > Add ? to show only search suggestions.
|
| You can select the search constraint in the dropdown if you
| don't want to memorize the list.
|
| https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/address-bar-
| autocomplet...
| metadat wrote:
| I meant in the bookmark search, the search box which
| appears after pressing cmd/ctrl-b.
|
| This is still an interesting workaround, I'll give a
| shot. Thanks!
| anticodon wrote:
| No, I definitely feel that Firefox is forgetting some of my
| bookmarks. And the search is indeed awful.
|
| I switched to buku and rofi-buku, which is more robust,
| convenient and accessible solution. And not tied to a single
| browser (I use several, for example, different browsers for
| leisure and for work).
| carlosjobim wrote:
| Why should somebody try to convince you in either direction? I
| can't see how it would matter to any other person how you
| specifically choose to sync your bookmarks.
| mapreduce wrote:
| > Why should somebody try to convince you in either
| direction?
|
| Because we are on a tech website and as good samaritans we
| want to help each other out by sharing the information,
| knowledge, projects, tools or recommendations we have?
| justusthane wrote:
| Two thoughts:
|
| - I like the no-nonsense landing page, but what I'd like _more_
| is to be able to see what the product actually looks like without
| having to sign up. At least screenshots, but a demo would be
| nice.
|
| - I'm looking to migrate away from Pinboard, but I like how you
| can see all of a user's bookmarks (e.g:
| https://pinboard.in/u:justusthane) unless they mark them private.
| I get that the point of Webtag is it's private by default, but it
| would also be cool if this was an option.
| egonschiele wrote:
| Just curious, why are you planning to migrate away from
| Pinboard? I have been meaning to sign up for years.
| blangk wrote:
| Pinboard is pretty great, especially with a perpetual accpubt
| asdefghyk wrote:
| I plan on leaving. I am unable to download all copies of ny
| bookmarks from my archival account. Have sent support request
| about this never any response. Support requests are often not
| answered. Google around , you will see plenty of other
| complaints in my opinion.
| jxy wrote:
| If you ever used w3m, it uses a local bookmark file. Something
| like this: $ cat ~/.w3m/bookmark.html
| <html><head><title>Bookmarks</title></head> <body>
| <h1>Bookmarks</h1> <h2>Searches</h2> <ul>
| <li><a href="https://www.google.com/">Google</a> <!--End
| of section (do not delete this comment)--> </ul>
| <h2>Time Sink</h2> <ul> <li><a
| href="https://news.ycombinator.com/">Hacker News</a> <!--
| End of section (do not delete this comment)--> </ul>
| </body> </html>
| kbrosnan wrote:
| Looks like a variation of the Netscape bookmark format.
|
| https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/...
| dsp_person wrote:
| > No limits on storage.
|
| just need a BBD module (bookmark block device) and boom free
| unlimited disk backups
| ks2048 wrote:
| About to encode my photo library as a set of
| "data:image/jpeg;base64" URLs...
| dsp_person wrote:
| ah, been done haha
|
| Show HN: BookmarkFS - Store files as Chrome bookmarks that
| sync between devices
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32887863
| apgwoz wrote:
| I wrote a KV store on top of Bit.ly once:
| https://github.com/apg/bitdb -- The "todo list" example has
| a good description of what's going on:
| https://github.com/apg/bitdb/blob/master/examples/todo.py
|
| And I know of a generic blob store on top of (older)
| Snapchat API: https://github.com/hausdorff/snapchat-fs
|
| It's really fun to "exploit" APIs in this way to create
| alternative uses.
| tandav wrote:
| It would be nice to have some sort of demo
| fraencko wrote:
| Small typo: The button on the bookmarklet page says
| "bookmarkelet".
| renegat0x0 wrote:
| I wrote bookmark manager in Django.
|
| https://github.com/rumca-js/Django-link-archive
|
| You can self host it.
|
| You can add RSS sources and auto import new links regularly.
|
| It may not be stare of the art, but gets the job done.
|
| Demo below, but may not be working when you look at it. It runs
| on raspberry pi.
|
| https://renegat0x0.ddns.net/apps/catalog/entry/11503/
| avinassh wrote:
| I love the homepage, simple and clean! Any screenshots of how it
| looks for logged users?
|
| I noticed it uses MongoDB. That seems like an overkill to me,
| have you considered SQLite?
|
| if you are open to taking feature requests:
|
| - ability to add random notes
|
| - any submitted link should be captured in archive / wayback
| machine
|
| - (complicated) search within the submitted links content
| account-5 wrote:
| Sounds like you're after zotero.
| herdst wrote:
| Why is MongoDB overkill?
| huhtenberg wrote:
| All attempts to create an account fail with "429 Too Many
| Requests".
| selmetwa wrote:
| Really cool! I like that bookmarking seems to be making a
| comeback. I really like the low-tech approach. It would be cool
| if there was a social component to it as well.
|
| I actually worked on a similar project centered around social
| bookmarking; https://huntergather.website/.
| thinking_banana wrote:
| I'm curious, where and how is the information stored as part of
| the service. Would be nice if you can share the deployment
| strategy that is being used as it suggests the framework for long
| term support.
|
| Thanks and nice work
| pwillia7 wrote:
| I recently came up with a new way to bookmark with Logseq and
| Raindrop that I like a lot --
| https://reticulated.net/posts/a-better-bookmark-experience-w...
| flanbiscuit wrote:
| For a long time I wanted to figure out a way to organize my
| "bookmarks" that I have scattered all over the place. I have many
| many favorited posts on HN, I used Reddit's "save" feature, I add
| videos to "watch later" or some other playlist in Youtube, etc
| etc. I thought maybe I could one day unify all this into one
| place where I can tag them so I know why I bookmarked them (I
| have definitely sifted through pages of my HN favorites trying to
| find something). At this point though, I have too much to go
| through that the task seems daunting. But now that we have AI, I
| have shifted my mindset to wanting to just feed everything to AI
| and just have a chat interface where I can ask it for what I
| want. I feel like that is the future of organization (at least
| for me it is). Ideally it would be something self-hosted
| jackthetab wrote:
| Same here. I'm saving my pennies to buy a decent machine to
| work on precisely that.
| GGO wrote:
| I use linkding for that? Have you tried it?
| https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding
| DandyDev wrote:
| Does linkding pull in your GitHub stars, Reddit saves etc?
| That's what the parent wants to achieve. It seems linkding is
| just a regular bookmark tool.
| bsnnkv wrote:
| Your initial want is pretty close to I ended up creating for
| myself for all things text-based with https://notado.app. I
| ended up ditching my old stuff in Instapaper, Readwise and
| Pinboard back in 2020ish because it didn't really fit the data
| model[1] (content-first rather than link-first) and since then
| I'm very happy with how everything is archived[2], organized
| and shareable[3] in Notado.
|
| I still think it's possible to go incredibly far with a good
| data model, fuzzy search, automated tagging and feed
| publishing.
|
| [1]: https://lgug2z.com/articles/the-bookmarking-data-model-is-
| wr...
|
| [2]: https://lgug2z.com/articles/notado-07-2023-update/
|
| [3]: https://lgug2z.com/articles/using-rust-chrome-and-nixos-
| to-t...
| mronetwo wrote:
| Looks great. What's up with Kullish? Seems to be down
| bsnnkv wrote:
| Naturally, the release I push before making a comment here
| is the one that takes down the website. Back up now :)
| al_borland wrote:
| What I never understand about the chat interfaces is how I'm
| supposed to browse? With something like bookmarks, I sometimes
| go through my old bookmarks and find interesting/useful things
| I forgot all about. If it's all in AI, behind a chatbot, and I
| forget about something, how do I know to ask for it?
| flanbiscuit wrote:
| Yes, true. Maybe there's a happy medium where it can auto-
| tag/organize them for you but also provide the chat
| interface, giving you the choice to browser or ask. I don't
| want my links to just be ingested by AI and disappear. I
| think being able to see them somewhere as well is important.
| hahajk wrote:
| Readwise has been really good for me to remind myself of
| highlights I made years ago. I set aside 30 minutes in the
| morning to go over a few highlights and write. I think that
| adding a "random bookmark" every day would be a good idea.
| Most of the time you say "huh, I forgot I had that" and
| forget it forever. But once in a while it comes at the
| perfect time. (Or a few days before/after the perfect time
| would still be nice)
| hawski wrote:
| If I would ever be bothered enough to invest time in getting to
| know existing or making my own bookmarking system I would just
| like for it to cache the text from a thing I want to bookmark
| and offer a nice full text search over the whole archive. I
| think that, the HN's favorite, Pinboard has something like
| this.
|
| I would think about going one step further and having a full
| text search over my whole browsing history with a way to
| penalize or remove certain hosts. Then I would love to augment
| my web searches to also include things from my archive.
|
| I feel I would have a much bigger utility out of this in
| comparison to thing through AI, though I get it could be also
| beneficial. However AI, I believe, is costlier to run. A nice,
| properly indexed, full text search probably could run on a
| phone at least for a private archive.
| 911e wrote:
| No GDPR mentions, cannot delete account easily :-(
| oneeyedpigeon wrote:
| When I try to sign up I just get "something went wrong please try
| again"
| jrm4 wrote:
| Hey folks, another option that I've settled on (after messing
| with shaarli, shiori and a few others) is Buku.
|
| Usually I really like plain text instead of dbs, but the killer
| here for me, I realize, is that I'm not tied to any one method of
| input OR output. Mainly, I do adding through a bookmarklet, and
| retrieval through "bukuserver," a self-hosted web thing. But
| also, I have the option of the command line (for bulk adding) as
| well as browser addons and other things, and (I use Syncthing) it
| doesn't matter "where" the db is, either on my machine or hosted
| on a vps.
|
| https://github.com/jarun/buku
| burgerrito wrote:
| Interesting:
|
| - Shiori (Kan ) means bookmark in Japanese
|
| - Buku means book in Indonesian
| idlewords wrote:
| "Free unlimited bookmarks. No limits on storage."
|
| No way that could backfire.
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