[HN Gopher] Neuralink patient controls games by thinking during ...
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Neuralink patient controls games by thinking during interview
Author : sambroner
Score : 63 points
Date : 2024-03-20 21:37 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| hablary wrote:
| That's pretty amazing, the fact he's able to click the pause
| button with his brain alone is insane to me - that's like Apple
| Vision Pro without the gigantic goggles.
| sambroner wrote:
| This is a good point. Seems like a likely candidate for an S
| curve in tech development. i.e. next 15 years of VR are
| improvements to camera, display, and tracking technology.
| Following 15 years are brain implants.
| sidewndr46 wrote:
| Good thing no Musk owned companies have a well established track
| record of faking the entire thing
| j4hdufd8 wrote:
| like?
| BadHumans wrote:
| They are referring to Tesla promotional FSD videos being
| heavily edited.
|
| https://www.pcmag.com/news/tesla-faked-autopilot-video-
| engin...
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| While not an Musk company, it is worth remembering Theranos
| demos being convincingly faked as well. I don't know if it is
| happening here but it does happen.
| dkersten wrote:
| Doesn't have to be faked either, I remember the Emotiv made
| similar claims and had similar demos where to the best of
| my understanding eventually people figured out it wasn't
| really reading your brainwaves but rather facial muscles or
| something (a friend of mine works in brain computer
| interfacing and explained it to me once but I don't
| remember the details -- it wasn't that they were actively
| trying to mislead necessarily, more akin to leaking
| validation data into neural network training than to
| outright deceiving).
| mdeeks wrote:
| A single event isn't a "track record". Though I guess he's
| been touting the Robotaxi idea for a long time and it still
| isn't anywhere on the horizon.
| yinser wrote:
| Speculative mud slinging
| TheAlchemist wrote:
| Exactly my thoughts, unfortunately.
|
| But giving it the benefit of the doubt, this looks mind blowing
| to me !
|
| It was kind of known that the research and tech is almost there
| for a while already, but seeing the demonstration live like
| that - incredible !
|
| But then it takes me back to those Musk companies - maybe it's
| just a repackaged already available research presented in a
| nice way - making us believe it could be 'deployed' in real
| world, while in reality it can only be done in a very
| controlled environment. And we are led to believe that we are
| '2 weeks away' from it being widely available. Hope we're wrong
| here.
| brettv2 wrote:
| I haven't followed Neuralink too closely since it was announced,
| so I was not expecting to see what I just saw. I've seen a
| handful of breakthrough moments in my life - I think this will be
| remembered as one.
| ccozan wrote:
| It is fascinating. But looking at this guy condition, playing
| games would be IMHO not the prio. I would hook up the remote
| controlling to a robotic exoskeleton, for just be back and
| function normal. I guess that also can be detected ( intention to
| move feet or hands in any direction ).
|
| But let's see, we are really at the beginning.
| justrealist wrote:
| Well I don't think those exoskeletons even really exist yet. So
| baby steps.
| Firaxus wrote:
| Of course, but that's going to take so much more time and
| effort. You can see how much joy this man is in just having the
| autonomy to move a mouse again. That's honestly amazing.
| modeless wrote:
| I don't think it can simultaneously control the dozens of
| degrees of freedom that a robot would have. Yet. You only need
| three degrees of freedom for a mouse with button. That alone is
| transformational for a quadriplegic.
| logtempo wrote:
| there is good works done in this article:
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| https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06094-5
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| https://www.cea.fr/english/Pages/News/brain-computer-interfa...
| timschmidt wrote:
| Better than an exoskeleton is a second implant below his C4/5
| to reconnect his spinal chord with his brain via wifi.
| Firaxus wrote:
| The sheer joy on this mans face to be able to freely control a
| mouse again, and engage with general technology. If they're able
| to make this into a generally safe procedure, a lot of people
| will be interested in just that.
| mdeeks wrote:
| I love that one of the first things he said he did was binge on
| Civilization 6 until 6am. Welcome back, buddy!
|
| Strangely that simple example was the most powerful part for me.
| I've done that so many times and it was such a fun experience.
| Now he gets to re-live that joy (and follow up shame) again!
| heavyset_go wrote:
| I'm curious if he's signed any type of NDA or non-disparagement
| agreement to receive the implant.
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