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Show HN: Godspeed is a fast, 100% keyboard oriented todo app for
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Hi everybody, today I'm launching version 1.0 of Godspeed, a todo
manager built with two priorities in mind: speed and 100% keyboard
orientation. Every action in Godspeed can be done from your
keyboard and will respond instantly. It's like Superhuman for your
todo list. Godspeed has everything you expect in a todo manager
like shared lists, labels, smart lists, boolean search operators,
and cloud sync. If you're already a user of an app like Todoist or
OmniFocus you should be able find everything you need in Godspeed.
I think the most appealing thing to most HN users would be the
keyboard orientation. Literally every single action in Godspeed is
doable from your keyboard. I'm so serious about this that I built
"hardcore mode" to completely disable the mouse - this both helps
you break the habit of reaching for your mouse, and keeps us honest
about 100% hotkey support. You can fully customize the hotkeys,
but if you're into Vim or Emacs you'll feel right at home by
default. We've got a 2 week free trial with no limitations, and
then offer subscription or one-time purchase options. Thanks for
checking out Godspeed, I'd love to hear your feedback!
https://godspeedapp.com/
Author : DanielDe
Score : 200 points
Date : 2024-03-19 14:53 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| maxmcd wrote:
| Is there a story about what mobile access might look like? Would
| be good to have some kind of access on the go even if the macOS
| app is the daily driver.
| sgt wrote:
| The mobile app is linked on the page:
| https://godspeedapp.com/ios
| dijit wrote:
| Looks extremely nice. One thing that I've had serious difficulty
| with though is keeping my Jira/Asana and Google Tasks all linked
| up somehow.
|
| I guess it's a non-goal, but do you envision a future where you
| would integrate with those solutions? Of course any integration
| would hopefully sync lazily in the background instead of blocking
| the render...
| kareemm wrote:
| Boy would I love an task manager to respect the fact that work
| happens in other tools, and provide a centralized layer on top
| of the tools I integrate with.
| conception wrote:
| Sunsama is a tool like this if you use the apps it integrates
| with.
| blowski wrote:
| My local, private todo list serves a different purpose to Jira.
| Keeping the two in sync is manual but not difficult.
|
| Every morning I have a routine of selecting my tasks from Jira.
| During the day, I just try to keep Jira up-to-date. And then at
| the end of the day, I ensure Jira is up-to-date with my
| progress.
|
| I've tried multiple times to automate them, but the automation
| ends up with more costs than benefits.
| blackhaj7 wrote:
| Holy crap this looks great
|
| Congrats
| sgt wrote:
| It seems quite fast and very intuitive, especially for keyboard
| jockeys. Is it all native Swift?
| jamil7 wrote:
| Not OP but it's an Electron app.
| apetrovic wrote:
| I understand that making a good app is hard, and don't want to
| undermine your effort, but $150 for a todo app... ouch.
| jbverschoor wrote:
| With no guarantee about future pricing models
| kjkjadksj wrote:
| Right like an editor and text is mouse free too and I can grep
| it with regex or sync it anywhere and have it on any device
| too.
| kareemm wrote:
| Pay no mind to this guy/gal. S/he's not your ideal customer.
|
| $150 once for an app to organize your work and personal life is
| a screaming bargain.
| lukefreiler wrote:
| Just because they don't feel the price is right/competitive
| doesn't automatically write them off as not your target
| market/ICP - it could still be very valid feedback,
| especially when competitive options may be cheaper.
|
| Personally I pay less than 1/2 the sub rate they're charging
| for TickTick Premium, and love it. That's not to say I
| wouldn't pay double for what it gains me (I definitely
| would), but given that TickTick is a viable option - I don't
| need to.
| kareemm wrote:
| If you organize your life using a todo app then $8/m is not
| even worth thinking about. It's 1.5 coffees.
| drcongo wrote:
| TickTick looks pretty nice, and doesn't seem to be
| Electron. Thanks, gonna trial it now!
| drcongo wrote:
| Update: subscribed to premium already, this is great.
| Shame they don't offer family or team plans.
| dimensi0nal wrote:
| And that's not even a perpetual license with updates.
| graypegg wrote:
| I am (personally) alright with this model. $150 is on par with
| OmniFocus Pro [0] which I've gotten easily more than $150 of
| value out of. (Including prior purchases of earlier versions,
| and similar price points.)
|
| With todo apps, I don't really expect the same sort of constant
| on-slaught of features like I do from other things. I expect it
| to continue to work and get out of the way. I expect the price
| to reflect the fact there was a lot of upfront work to get it
| "done" to a level where I can just use it.
|
| [0] https://www.omnigroup.com/omnifocus/buy/
| busterarm wrote:
| Right, but by choosing to go keyboard-focused it's competing
| in a space with very feature-rich Vim and Emacs plugins (and
| users who want to work out of those) that are free.
|
| Even the Sublime users have lots of options already. Sublime
| is ALSO a very capable text editor and $100.
| graypegg wrote:
| Fair, though I do think there's value you might be
| discounting here that ISN'T keyboard shortcuts. The market
| isn't all vim/emacs users, it's complex Omnifocus-style
| todo app users, who are frustrated with the lack of
| keyboard support in those apps. These users are more
| comfortable with this price point than you may expect (IMO)
| but will need feature parity for things like OmniFocus
| perspectives/floating timezones/easy outlining.
|
| A CLI app is not something I would want to use for
| something I touch every 30minutes, every day, from many
| devices. But I do use vim for text editing.
| busterarm wrote:
| I'm not saying the market isn't there, I'm just saying
| don't act surprised when you get very valid criticisms
| expressing sticker shock.
|
| Emacs users have Org Mode and MobileOrg and can store the
| sync data somewhere they have full control over.
| lycopodiopsida wrote:
| OF keyboard support is fine - and I say it as an ex-emacs
| and current neovim user who works in terminal. It does
| not look that stellar but is well thought out and I am
| faster with kb in OF than I was in org-mode.
| larrysalibra wrote:
| The OP is likely trying to deliver something like
| Superhuman ($30/month) - speed and keyboard focused-email -
| but for todos. I would imagine there is very little overlap
| between that market and people who use vim or emacs +
| plugins.
| 1123581321 wrote:
| Exactly; this is aimed at current OmniFocus and Things users.
| People who want it to compete with free Vim won't buy at any
| price.
| drcongo wrote:
| $150 for an electron app. I was considering holding my nose
| about the Electron part as I've been desperately trying to find
| a todo app that meets my needs, but damned if I'm going to
| subscribe or pay $150 for one.
| bonestamp2 wrote:
| Which cross platform solution would they have had to use to
| get your $150?
| willdr wrote:
| For $150 I want a native app
| kareemm wrote:
| Love it. I've been increasingly dissatisfied with Things.
|
| Specific things I'm looking for in a Todo manager:
|
| 1. iPhone <=> Mac apps and syncing
|
| 2. Hotkeys + Speed
|
| 3. Shared lists (you don't even mention this until I get into
| Guides, but I love it)
|
| 4. Smart lists
|
| 5. Nesting
|
| 6. Pasting images
|
| 7. Projects + subtasks
|
| 8. An inbox
|
| 9. Snoozing to the future
|
| 10. Focus mode (gets rid of everything else EXCEPT for the
| current task... really nice as a reminder when I start a task,
| hop into a meeting, and flip back to the todo list to see what
| I'm meant to be working on and it's staring me in the face vs.
| seeing a long list of items). Don't think you support this -
| first saw it in Amazing Marvin.
|
| Concerns:
|
| 1. How painful will it be to import from Things?
|
| 2. What if the app goes away? I don't want to lose my stuff or
| switch again, it's a pain. How big is your company? Are you a
| going concern with real customers or is this a side project that
| will fall by the wayside?
|
| 3. I do love not paying a subscription for Things. I like the
| $150 one-off fee for 18m. Would consider that.
|
| Regardless, going to play with it today. Seems very promising!
| FredPret wrote:
| Do you have Things for Mac? I loved Things on my iPhone until I
| saw the Mac version is another CAD 70.
|
| Now I use vanilla Obsidian with checkboxes - super simple, and
| I own the file.
|
| There's no snoozing though - you have to cut-paste a task into
| a different todo list if you want to move it.
|
| I'm sure there's also a plugin that would make it more org-
| mode-ish.
| kareemm wrote:
| I have both Things for Mac and iPhone. The money's trivial
| for organizing my life. I don't want to spend a second more
| in my todo app than necessary and would rather pay to have
| things just work.
| jamil7 wrote:
| It's a one time purchase for both though, I've used it almost
| daily (at least during the week) for 3 years or so now.
| lelandfe wrote:
| $150 is $90 more than getting Things for iOS and macOS. I'm a
| big Things user, will be curious to see if this is worth the
| price.
|
| Shame that it only nets you 18 months, and seemingly no support
| guarantee. I'm also curious how limitless bug fixes for older
| versions is going to work out. "Godspeed will never stop
| working" feels like a bold claim to make given enough time in
| "never." I've been using Things for 6 years now.
| kareemm wrote:
| Agreed re: 18 months. Been using Things for 8-9 years now,
| tried Sunsama, Todoist, and Amazing Marvin but keep coming
| back to Things.
|
| Godspeed looks interesting enough vs Things to kick the tires
| b/c:
|
| 1. Speed of date picking and moving todos (choosing dates in
| Things is a mouse operation and I do it multiple times a day.
| It's 2024 guys, we don't need calendar pickers when we have
| command palettes)
|
| 2. Image support (super annoying I can't include files in
| Things. Again... 2024, come on)
|
| 3. Sharing lists (can't do in Things which doesn't respect
| that todos are often collaborative / shared)
| lelandfe wrote:
| Cultured Code's rate of development is my greatest
| negative, lol. Text resizing is the biggest feature add in
| recent memory.
|
| > choosing dates in Things is a mouse operation
|
| Not so! Cmd-Shift-D: https://imgur.com/a/kfa6KZj
| kareemm wrote:
| CMD-Shift-D -- TIL, thanks!
| mj4e wrote:
| CMD Shift S too
| gcr wrote:
| Changing dates in Things isn't a mouse operation. Highlight
| todo, Cmd+Shift+D, then type the date.
| mtillman wrote:
| I'm a big fan of Things (started with V1) and am happy
| they're getting stiffer competition. Will help both products
| and I'll benefit.
| devrob wrote:
| Somewhat off topic, does anyone use Paper/Pencil (specifically
| bullet journals), Apps and Digital Calendars with what feels
| like not much effort? I haven't been able to come to a happy
| medium between them all.
|
| Also Concern #3, is there a subscription for things? o.O
| DanielDe wrote:
| I'm happy to say it looks like we tick 9/10 of those boxes!
|
| > 10. Focus mode
|
| You're right, this is the one we don't support. But we've
| gotten requests for it, including from my cofounder, so its
| coming!
|
| > 1. How painful will it be to import from Things?
|
| I'm not sure if Things lets you export tasks, but if they do
| I'm more than happy to run a one-time custom import for you (or
| any other Things user). There's also the simpler way, which is
| copying a bunch of tasks to your clipboard and hitting
| [?]+Shift+V in Godspeed to paste tasks from clipboard. It'll
| respect indentation and bullet characters.
|
| > 2. What if the app goes away? I don't want to lose my stuff
| or switch again, it's a pain. How big is your company? Are you
| a going concern with real customers or is this a side project
| that will fall by the wayside?
|
| Important question, thank you for asking it. First, if the app
| goes away, you're able to export your data from Godspeed.
| Currently it exports as JSON, but we're going to add other
| export formats in the future (as well as attachment exporting,
| which we don't currently support - though all your attachments
| are stored in a particular folder in ~/Library).
|
| We're small right now, just a few people. But this app is
| pretty cheap to run and we use it every day (I don't want to
| brag, but I'm currently at the top of the charts for # of todos
| with 22,000 :p). So for what its worth, we intend to be around
| for a long time.
|
| Thanks so much for the feedback and for checking it out! Happy
| to answer more questions, either here or daniel@godspeedapp.com
| adamweld wrote:
| I'm surprised no one in this thread has mentioned Workflowy[0].
|
| It is extremely minimal and elegant, does everything that
| you're looking for (on first glance), and is completely free.
| Not to be hyperbolic but the interface is ingenious in it's
| power and simplicity. Give it a shot.
|
| [0]: https://workflowy.com/basics/
| karyb wrote:
| And https://dynalist.io/ is in a very similar vein
| sgt wrote:
| Can I have it only sync through iCloud? I'm just concerned that I
| buy the lifetime version and then the Godspeed API disappears
| after a couple of years.
| syvl wrote:
| Unfortunately not. I can understand if that's a dealbreaker for
| you.
|
| There are a few reasons we're not using iCloud: 1. We
| eventually intend to support other platforms, like Windows and
| the web. 2. Though they're admittedly rare, we've heard some
| iCloud horror stories. @DanielDe (OP) lost some files using
| iCloud Drive, so it's hard for us to trust it. 3. We wanted
| much tighter control over syncing to provide the particular
| experience we were aiming for. Things like live cursors for
| shared lists, and the way our offline experience works, are
| tightly tied into our sync engine.
| graypegg wrote:
| Ahhhh shit... this might break me away from Omnifocus. From first
| blush, you've hit everything I need to move over, plus good
| keyboard support which OF has always lacked.
|
| If there's a taskpaper or other simple text-based import format,
| I'd switch in a second.
|
| Edit: looking closer, you're totally going for OF specifically!
| Same price point, and I think nearly-feature matched. Good job!
| mulderc wrote:
| I feel like Omnifocus has good keyboard support, particularly
| enjoy quick entry support. Looks like Godspeed lack iOS and
| watch support which makes it a complete non-starter for me.
| syvl wrote:
| FWIW there is a Godspeed iOS app. No watch support yet but
| it's on our list!
| coldtea wrote:
| Looks good.
|
| An important question: can we sync it with our own method (e.g.
| Dropbox or SyncThing or whatever) or is there a hardcoded sync to
| the company's Cloud?
|
| It's a matter of privacy and freedom to move the data as we see
| fit.
| DanielDe wrote:
| The sync engine is proprietary, so you can't use your own
| provider. We wanted very tight control over syncing to achieve
| our goals with speed and shared lists. I totally understand
| your concern, though.
|
| For what its worth, all of your data is stored locally in a
| sqlite DB. You shouldn't edit this DB or syncing may not work,
| but you should feel free to read from it if you'd like
| ~/Library/Godspeed/godspeed-db.sqlite
| tunesmith wrote:
| Just curious if it supports blockers and dependencies? Where one
| task can block multiple others, and where a task can be blocked
| by multiple others?
| sixtram wrote:
| Is this a native app or Electron stuff?
| amandle wrote:
| It's electron based.
| sneak wrote:
| Isn't e2ee table stakes for these sorts of PIM sync tools at this
| point?
| LVB wrote:
| Given that Things, Todoist, TickTick, and probably most(?)
| others don't support e2ee, I'd not consider it table stakes. If
| anything it could be a positive differentiator if they did add
| it, since folks in the forums for other apps often bemoan the
| lack of e2ee.
| jdthedisciple wrote:
| No end-to-end-encryption? Should be considered an absolute must
| for any cloud-based personal note taking app.
| strongly-typed wrote:
| Can the keyboard shortcuts be modified? One of my personal pain
| points with other task managers such as Asana is that I can't
| remap the keyboard shortcuts. This is very important to me since
| I use alternative keyboard layouts such as Dvorak, Colemak,
| MTGAP, Graphite, and have continued to experiment with many
| others.
| syvl wrote:
| Yes! Super important feature that I'm realizing we never
| mention on the website, I'll have to add it. Thanks for
| bringing that to our attention :)
| jamil7 wrote:
| Great work! Keyboard wise, it works really well. I found the
| onboarding panel persisting there the whole time kind of
| annoying. I wanted to dismiss it but could only minimise it. It
| sort of forces you to go through every feature upfront, rather
| than progressively disclosing features to you.
|
| Nitpicks, but some of the ways in which it doesn't behave like a
| mac app I don't like. I don't like the non-native looking font.
| The sidebar isn't collapsible or resizable like a mac app, but I
| guess you could add an editor-style shortcut to toggle that. If
| you have a mouse plugged in you get scroll bars everywhere. It
| seems to maintain its own undo/redo stack? The shortcuts for
| undo/redo work but the menu commands for them won't.
|
| Edit: typos
| DanielDe wrote:
| Ah you can actually dismiss the onboarding panel from the
| command palette, sorry that wasn't more obvious!
|
| The sidebars can be collapsed with [?]+; and [?]+', though we
| also intend to make them fully resizable soon too!
|
| You're right about the undo/redo stack, we need to improve its
| integration with the system so those work properly.
|
| Thanks so much for this feedback! Keep it coming!
| klinch wrote:
| Love the idea of focusing on speed. I used to have Todoist but
| the slugginess killed it for me.
| mrinterweb wrote:
| This looks great and I appreciate the demo period and the option
| to buy one-time. Do wish the buy one-time had a longer update
| length. The subscription looks like the better deal. The $149 /
| 18 months is $8.28/month. Guess the upside is you get to keep
| using the app without updates after the 18 months. I have
| subscription fatigue so I do appreciate the one-time purchase.
| booi wrote:
| Ok but are we overlooking the $150 for a todo app? There are
| entire suites of software that cost less than $150 to own.
| Microsoft Office Home, Windows 11, Photoshop Elements 2024,
| Premiere Elements 2024...
|
| I'm just saying I think the buy to own price is an order of
| magnitude too high relative to other significantly more
| complicated pieces of software.
| TimTheTinker wrote:
| Agreed. Especially when TUI projects like this exist:
| https://github.com/kraanzu/dooit
| bosie wrote:
| how do such things attach files and let me view them?
| bosie wrote:
| i think you just learned about scale and number of sales (and
| age of software).
| profstasiak wrote:
| what is life if not a series of doing tasks? I don't see a
| problem with paying 150$ for me to better do tasks I care
| about, not forget important stuff etc. And I come from low-
| income country, not US or western europe
| pjerem wrote:
| OP could offer the same thing as JetBrains does : for X months
| of continuous subscription (here 18), you get a lifetime
| license for the current version. It satisfies both the
| customers who wants one time purchase but as a developper you
| still get your ARR.
| smcleod wrote:
| Yeah $110AUD/year is more than twice what I'd expect to pay.
| koromak wrote:
| Does this have shared workspaces? Absolutely hate clickup, this
| seems like a good replacement if I can share workspaces
| byteknight wrote:
| I wish with the ubiquity of cross-platform frameworks more people
| would utilize them :'(
| jiehong wrote:
| You might be underestimating cross OS keyboard handling
| difficulties across keyboard layouts....
| byteknight wrote:
| Fair point @jiehong, but I think modern cross-platform
| frameworks and libraries have made significant strides in
| abstracting away those complexities.
|
| Most of them provide abstraction layers that handle low-level
| input events, including keyboard input, with a consistent API
| across platforms. They also adhere to established standards
| like ISO/IEC 9995 for keyboard layouts and XKB for X Window
| Systems.
|
| Additionally, platforms often provide dedicated input method
| libraries (e.g., IBus on Linux, TSF on Windows) that these
| frameworks can leverage to handle different keyboard layouts
| and input methods seamlessly.
|
| Not to mention the focus on localization and
| internationalization (L10n and I18n) in modern software
| development practices, which includes support for different
| locales, character encodings, and input methods out of the
| box.
|
| While there may be some edge cases or platform-specific
| quirks to consider, the challenges of handling different
| keyboard layouts are generally well-understood and addressed
| by the frameworks and their active communities.
| paradite wrote:
| Sadly I use Macbook with Android.
| ahstilde wrote:
| same! We're pretty rare.
| notkaiho wrote:
| But we do exist!
| syvl wrote:
| Android, Windows, and a web version are on the roadmap! If
| you'd like, you can drop your email address at the bottom of
| the page and we'll let you know when they're available. (We
| won't spam you with small product updates / marketing, just the
| major updates like a new platform.)
| HandsFreeFap wrote:
| Is it opensource? Looking at the main page, i really like what I
| see. It is very sleek and the integration between Mac and IOS
| looks great.
| KingGeedorah wrote:
| > However, 18 months after a one-time purchase, you'll no longer
| get access to new or updated features.
|
| Is this normal for SaaS?
| input_sh wrote:
| It's definitely more popular on MacOS than elsewhere.
| bonestamp2 wrote:
| A lot of enterprise software is on a 1 year "maintenance"
| cycle too. In some cases, you no longer get support and you
| can continue to use the latest version from that year, and in
| other cases the license completely expires and you can't use
| the product at all.
| jarrettcoggin wrote:
| I've seen this a handful of times with libraries and other
| software. Typically, it's a year of updates, so 18 months is on
| the more generous side of things with this model.
| 1123581321 wrote:
| It's increasingly common. This particular one is a bit of a
| headscratcher since typically pay-once-for-an-update period is
| presented as a de facto subscription, but this also has a
| subscription.
|
| In this case, you'd pay $150 for an 18-month window of updates,
| or $144 for two years of updates (or, if you like, $72*1.5 for
| the same 18-month window, assuming you're going to pay another
| $150 at month 19 for something interesting.)
|
| Contrast that with Agenda, which is $35 to buy with 12 month of
| updates, or about $100 for a life-time of updates. The tradeoff
| is more straightforward as you're just deciding whether to bet
| on more than three years of features.
|
| Or contrast with OmniFocus which is $150 for the major version,
| which typically is on a 4-5 year cicle, or $5/mo. In that case
| you're just betting that you'll use the current major version
| more than 2.5 years.
|
| (I'm ignoring cashflow discount; you get the idea.)
|
| (The app itself is fun and fast to use, and I'm not complaining
| or demanding special treatment. I'm just interested in how
| these things are priced.)
| chr-s wrote:
| I wonder what kind of pain is involved with maintaining every
| new feature release with bug and compatibility fixes forever*.
| James_K wrote:
| Am I the only one who feels a sort of tension between the
| silicon-valley-chic of this website and the simplicity of the
| software being presented? It seems to just be a list of things
| with some slight structure added. The big selling-point is
| responsive UI, but I feel that should be the minimum we expect
| from software. I personally prefer a pen an paper for this kind
| of thing. I guess this is primarily for collaborative use, but
| I'm not seeing much on the site about how good it works as a
| ticketing system. Perhaps some testimonials from
| organisations/teams that have used it would be a better thing to
| lead with than a strange technical statement which most users
| won't understand. I'm a fairly technical sort of guy myself and I
| don't exactly know off the top of my head what 50ms latency feels
| like or how it compares to other note taking software.
| syvl wrote:
| > The big selling-point is responsive UI, but I feel that
| should be the minimum we expect from software.
|
| Agreed! That's a big part of what motivated us to build
| Godspeed.
|
| > Perhaps some testimonials from organisations/teams that have
| used it would be a better thing to lead with than a strange
| technical statement which most users won't understand. I'm a
| fairly technical sort of guy myself and I don't exactly know
| off the top of my head what 50ms latency feels like or how it
| compares to other note taking software.
|
| Appreciate that feedback! Today is our 1.0 launch, we'll
| definitely add some testimonials in the coming weeks.
|
| For what it's worth, a response time of 100ms is perceived as
| instantaneous [0].
|
| [0] https://www.pubnub.com/blog/how-fast-is-realtime-human-
| perce...
| syvl wrote:
| We say "<50ms" rather than "instantaneous" because a lot of
| companies will claim that their software is fast and not
| actually meet a specific threshold. This claim keeps us from
| cutting corners - we're serious about keeping everything
| blazing fast, even if that means it takes longer to build.
| James_K wrote:
| > For what it's worth, a response time of 100ms is perceived
| as instantaneous
|
| That's not true. From the source you cited:
|
| > Increasing latency above 13 ms has an increasingly negative
| impact on human performance for a given task. While
| imperceptible at first, added latency continues to degrade a
| human's processing ability until approaching 75 to 100 ms.
| Here we become very conscious that input has become too slow
|
| The 100ms figure was in regard to conversational interactions
| with a computer.
| iamsanteri wrote:
| But is it faster than getting a pen and jotting down your to-do's
| on paper? Mac opens up fast these days for sure, but... Anyhow, I
| really like the idea and wish you all the best with this! Looks
| real good.
| orf wrote:
| I mean... Yeah? Most likely?
| thfuran wrote:
| Yes, it'd take me several minutes to track down a pen and
| paper.
| bosie wrote:
| "Hi siri, remind mind to do AB CD EF"
| reaperducer wrote:
| _" Hi siri, remind mind to do AB CD EF"_
|
| "I found some results on the web. I can show them to you
| again if you ask from your iPhone."
| nottorp wrote:
| I wonder if one human lifetime is enough to count all the TODO
| apps.
|
| Strongly in the pen and paper camp, myself.
| madrox wrote:
| As someone who has used every TODO method under the sun over
| the last 20 years and talked to other people on their own work
| tracking journeys, I think task management to be a deeply
| personal thing that has to map to how you think and do things
| for it to stick.
|
| Pen and paper worked great for me when I did everything at a
| desk (or carried a notebook with me) and I was always doing
| deep focus work. I went digital when I started being more
| mobile in my work and I had a lot of contexts where I needed to
| jot quick TODOs as I thought of them. Also, it's difficult to
| collaborate with my wife using paper.
|
| The inbox mechanic for tasks works great, because I don't need
| to add all my task metadata right away. I can also annotate
| projects and contexts so I can say "what are my TODOs when I'm
| at home" or "what are my TODOs related to a person on my team".
| Now that I'm tracking over 20 things, it's necessary to stay
| organized
| bibliotekka wrote:
| The Cortex Sidekick Notepad is pretty great for analog task
| management. Expensive, but pretty great.
| madrox wrote:
| I've tried it before. I didn't find it meaningfully better
| than a moleskine with grid paper (in some ways worse) or
| sticky notes around my monitor. Again, paper for task
| management doesn't work for me
| brainzap wrote:
| makes me a bit nostalgic of remember the milk, managing todos was
| fun, I specially liked the keyboard shortcut 1-3 for priorities
| syvl wrote:
| I never used Remember the Milk but FWIW you can assign numbered
| keyboard shortcuts for labels and make smart lists with those
| labels, so I think you could recreate that flow with Godspeed!
| delduca wrote:
| I use bear for that, it has an iOS app.
| boromi wrote:
| Looks really nice. Any plans for a Windows release?
| syvl wrote:
| Thanks! Windows, Android, and a web version are on the roadmap.
| If you'd like, you can drop your email address at the bottom of
| the page and we'll let you know when they're available. (We
| won't spam you with small product updates / marketing, just
| major updates like support for a new platform.)
| madrox wrote:
| Well done. This is everything I love about Omnifocus but with
| better collaboration. If you can give me a Windows version so I
| can also use this on my personal workstation this is an instant
| buy.
| adamweld wrote:
| Try Workflowy, it has good native and web apps and a great
| minimal but powerful design and is completely free.
|
| https://workflowy.com/basics/
| madrox wrote:
| I've tried workflowy before and it didn't stick. Something
| about the combined notetaking aspect made it difficult for me
| to conform to.
| syvl wrote:
| Thank you! Windows is on our roadmap, if you'd like you can
| drop your email address at the bottom of the page and we'll let
| you know when it's available. (We won't spam you with small
| product updates / marketing, just major updates like support
| for a new platform.)
| 2bitlobster wrote:
| What's the file format? I hope the best for your app, but I hope
| I can still use those files if something happens to the company.
| I converted to .txt files 10 years ago for everything todo, but
| wouldn't mind a specialized utility for it!
| TehShrike wrote:
| I'm curious as well - if there was a SQLite file somewhere that
| I could read from to hook up e.g. an Alfred plugin or whatever,
| that would be valuable.
| DanielDe wrote:
| There is indeed a sqlite file! ~/Library/Godspeed/godspeed-
| db.sqlite. But you shouldn't edit it or things won't sync
| properly. Feel free to read, though!
| DanielDe wrote:
| We use a proprietary sync engine, so there isn't some known
| file format you can edit. I totally understand your objection
| to this!
|
| We do, however, store the data locally in a sqlite database
| (~/Library/Godspeed/godspeed-db.sqlite). You shouldn't directly
| edit it or things won't sync properly, but you can use it to
| easily read your tasks if you'd like!
| grncdr wrote:
| That file (and entire directory) doesn't seem to exist on my
| system
| DanielDe wrote:
| Oh gosh, sorry, I got the path wrong... it's
| ~/Library/Application Support/Godspeed
|
| Thanks for pointing this out to me, I got this wrong in a
| couple other places here too!
| newman314 wrote:
| It'd be awesome if you can emit/ingest Markdown. That way,
| Todo can act as a different frontend to what essentially
| amounts to a bunch of files that I can then view via a
| different app.
| aldanor wrote:
| And then you'd rather just write a plug-in for Obsidian?
| lifeisstillgood wrote:
| I am currently rethinking my awful home organisation
|
| A dropbox folder for each "case"/"project".
|
| A dropbox folder for each outside compmay
|
| A password manager
|
| Some gaffing with scripting to tie it together
|
| I think pythonista ought to be part of it too
|
| Edit: @DanielDe - apologies for that brain dump.
|
| You built an app and launched it - fantastic. Honestly That's an
| achievement most of us on HN cannot even claim. - my honest
| congratulations
|
| I hope you find a niche and make 10,000 true fans happy.
|
| I would love to hear your views on how to stay organised in life
| (or rather, how shall I put this, I don't see organised as a pre-
| active thing but a post-active thing. It's like project
| management - it supposed to remind you of the important things,
| to follow you around and capture the right information (#) not
| control or constrain your actions.)
|
| Anyhow - congrats. Break a leg :-)
|
| (#) the most obvious is _monitor_ my communications - like
| capture my phone calls and keep that alongside the name of the
| contact in my phone list. But because iOS no-one can do that. I
| get it but also I don't.
|
| Anyhow I think I want a unicorn.
| devrob wrote:
| u/lifeisstillgood look into "Building a Second Brain" and
| Tiago's PARA method, could help?
| smoldesu wrote:
| I remember Projectpad being really close to what I wanted in
| this regard: https://github.com/emmanueltouzery/projectpad2/
|
| Shame it appears to be abandoned.
| kstrauser wrote:
| Coming from an OmniFocus user:
|
| How do I script it? OF's automation is a must-have, as that's how
| I integrate it with my other apps. Extensive Shortcuts support
| (ala Things) is a minimum. AppleScript or JavaScript is better.
|
| I won't use a to-do app without a start date. Don't remind me to
| renew my driver's license 3 years in advance. I don't even want
| to see that. Everything that's due far in the future that I
| couldn't be working on today even if I wanted to is just a
| distraction.
|
| I can't deep link directly to an item. That means I can't use it
| with things like Hookmark, or have a note in another app that
| links back to its related project.
|
| I can't legally use it without end-to-end encryption. That's a
| deal breaker for anyone in a regulated industry, and I don't want
| to have one to-do app for work and another for personal stuff.
|
| This looks really cool! Each one of the above items would keep it
| out of the running for me, though.
| DanielDe wrote:
| > How do I script it?
|
| We don't have a story for this yet, but we will. And I strongly
| agree about JavaScript. In fact, an idea I really like is
| making that API available directly in the developer console,
| which we have available anyway because we're an Electron app!
|
| > I won't use a to-do app without a start date.
|
| We've gotten this request before and its on our list! I also
| really liked this feature of OmniFocus.
|
| > I can't deep link directly to an item
|
| This is coming soon too, I find myself wanting it all the time.
|
| > I can't legally use it without end-to-end encryption.
|
| Totally understandable. Once again, this is on our list, and
| has been hotly requested.
|
| I SUPER appreciate this feedback. Always valuable to hear about
| the blockers, and you can bet I'll follow up with you when
| we've addressed them all!
| kstrauser wrote:
| Right on. I look forward to seeing how this develops!
| sleight42 wrote:
| After that, it's going to be "encryption at rest" (if you're
| storing these lists as part of the service) and then various
| and sundry compliances. That'll open you to the enterprise
| market.
| kstrauser wrote:
| The nice part about E2EE is that it makes a zillion
| compliance issues go away. It's always encrypted at rest.
| It's always encrypted in transit. There are no DLP issues.
| There are no data sharing or processing issues. There are
| no multi-tenant issues. There are no law enforcement data
| access issues.
|
| (All of those are for sufficiently small values of "no",
| perhaps literally not none whatsoever, but guaranteed
| better than if you're storing readable data.)
| lelandfe wrote:
| Without meaning disrespect towards your particular workflow (in
| fact - much _re_ spect), I personally view automation support
| as a pretty low priority for a new app's roadmap. AppleScript
| support arrived in Things in 1.1, for instance.
| mkielo wrote:
| Cool app. It would be really nice to have a pdf somewhere of all
| shortcuts that I could have open next to the app/print out.
| subpixel wrote:
| I'm interested but I have recently learned that making lists is
| easy, playing with lists is fun, but actually scheduling work on
| my calendar is the only thing that gets it done.
| smcleod wrote:
| Looks nice, then I saw the price... wow - that's a lot of money
| for a subscription for a single tool.
| tailspin2019 wrote:
| It's quite similar to Omnifocus' pricing FWIW
| lycopodiopsida wrote:
| Omnifocus asks this price for a major version (4-5 years of
| updates) and has much more features - omniautomation, sync
| encryption, review, defer dates. Also, omnifocus and its
| makers have a reputation they have built over _decades_ so
| they can ask for that money and I will pay because it is my
| GTD foundation for over a decade. I may use something else
| for a while but will always come back to OF with a relief.
|
| This one is a new app, light on features but worse conditions
| for the same price. Can't forbid to get overconfident, I
| guess?
| smcleod wrote:
| $110 AUD per year is insanely expensive!
| srid wrote:
| What I most want is an user-friendly macOS task manager app that
| uses plain-text files for storage, and allows syncing via iCloud
| Drive.
| MontagFTB wrote:
| Have you looked at https://www.taskpaper.com/?
| compumike wrote:
| The demo video looks great. Any chance of this coming to non-
| macOS platforms?
| DanielDe wrote:
| Thanks so much! Yes, we're hoping to bring it to Windows,
| Linux, and web soon, and Android a bit later after that.
| pflenker wrote:
| The date picker alone makes me consider switching. This is what
| has always brought me back to Things.
| pflenker wrote:
| What gives, I am not allowed to create a todo for Today or This
| Evening when it is already late in the day? That does not make
| a lot of sense to me.
| gala8y wrote:
| Apart from it being probably a great app...
|
| "Pay once $149 keep it forever, ongoing compatibility updates +
| bug fixes, 18 months of new features"
|
| ...this is not old skool pay once payment. It is just one payment
| for 18 months of subscription to new features which makes it
| slightly more expensive than monthly subscription. Go figure.
| threetonesun wrote:
| The "old skool" was pay once, get (usually) 0 updates and then
| pay again for a new major version. The keep it but stop getting
| updates model is better than that, usually.
| danieldk wrote:
| You mean like Things, which I bought in 2017 and am still
| getting updates for?
| raybb wrote:
| Does it support CALDAV?
| evanmoran wrote:
| It looks great. I'm curious did you have any trouble with iOS app
| approval?
| syvl wrote:
| We had some back and forth around getting the in-app purchase
| screen to meet Apple's requirements, but I'd say nothing out of
| the ordinary.
| chrizel wrote:
| Your privacy policy is very short and missing some important
| information. Where are your servers located? What cloud providers
| do you use? Do you use encryption in transit and at rest? How do
| you protect my data? Where are you located?
|
| Because task managers are storing a lot of sensitive information
| over time this is an important topic for a lot of people. The
| website should cover these questions.
| leokennis wrote:
| I will be unable to leave the stock iOS Reminders app:
|
| - I do a lot of my tasks away from my desk, so when I have my
| phone with me but not my laptop - A todo item without a
| reminder/due date is "dead" to me, it's the reminder to actually
| do the thing that adds the value
|
| The stock Reminders app is the only app on iOS I know of that can
| keep persistent notifications on the Lock Screen, even after
| locking and then unlocking the phone. A reminder will stay on the
| Lock Screen as notification until marked as complete.
|
| Any other todo app can give me a one time notification. But if I
| don't act on it, the notification is gone (or hidden below the
| fold at best) and unless I open the app, the todo item is again
| "dead" to me.
|
| This is definitely Apple allowing its own apps access to features
| closed off for others, but this unique capability is what will
| keep me on the stock Reminders app forever.
| sleight42 wrote:
| Couldn't reminder apps implement "nagging" such that dismissed
| notifications are re-notified until some action is taken?
|
| Agreed, this is Apple taking advantage of private APIs in much
| the same way that got Microsoft in so much hot water in the
| late 90s/early 00s.
| havaloc wrote:
| https://www.dueapp.com/ is what you're looking for
|
| > Couldn't reminder apps implement "nagging" such that
| dismissed notifications are re-notified until some action is
| taken?
| syngrog66 wrote:
| "speed & 100% keyboard-oriented TODO app" == vim
|
| plus you can use the same vim skills and mindspace for lots of
| other use cases
|
| plus its free, offline friendly, VCS friendly, backup friendly
| UnitOfMeasure wrote:
| "todo" app?
| ElementOfYawn wrote:
| "todo app?"
| sirtimbly wrote:
| This app makes me happy. As happy as when I first used "The Hit
| List" back in 2007. Custom themes would be nice.
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