[HN Gopher] Fifty Things you can do with a Software Defined Radio
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       Fifty Things you can do with a Software Defined Radio
        
       Author : Timothee
       Score  : 228 points
       Date   : 2024-03-16 18:17 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | mikewarot wrote:
       | Well, it is truly amazing what you can do with a cheap RTLsdr
       | dongle and some time and energy. I used GNU Radio to build a
       | receiver flowgraph that decodes and displays the signal from a
       | nearby VOR aircraft navigation transmitter. It was cool to drive
       | around it, and see the pointer update in real time.
       | 
       | The sensitivity of these things is on the order of a normal
       | receiver, (0.1 microVolts) which surprised me, knowing the
       | samples are 8 bits.
        
         | CamperBob2 wrote:
         | ADC sensitivity is influenced by quite a few things, some of
         | them pretty unintuitive (e.g., some interference from unwanted
         | signals in the RF passband can be a _good_ thing if it provides
         | a source of dithering that allows weaker signals to cross bit
         | boundaries).
         | 
         | Bit depth is surprisingly far down the list in overall
         | importance. To understand why, look up "FFT processing gain."
         | Consider that sigma-delta converters are 1-bit ADCs, yet the
         | S-D topology is used for many applications that require wide
         | dynamic range.
        
           | brcmthrowaway wrote:
           | The interface between analog and digital signals is weird
           | science
        
       | nonrandomstring wrote:
       | On hunting weather baloons:
       | 
       | > And he was right: Someone had been faster than us! The status
       | was changed. So in the end, I didn't find the sonde. But
       | something that might be even better - a friend!
       | 
       | Other than all the other fun packed into SDR this story just put
       | me in a good mood today.
        
       | isoprophlex wrote:
       | Seems so idiotic that you're not allowed to _receive_ maritime
       | traffic in Germany (item #49).
       | 
       | Don't transmit any, if you don't want people to receive it.
        
         | tostr wrote:
         | I just wanted to post that I can't find anything about it being
         | forbidden, but there is actually a link in the post[1]. So
         | basically the situation is:
         | 
         | Mit einer Funkanlage durfen nur solche Nachrichten abgehort
         | oder in vergleichbarer Weise zur Kenntnis genommen werden, die
         | fur den Betreiber der Funkanlage, fur Funkamateure im Sinne des
         | SS 2 Nummer 1 des Amateurfunkgesetzes, fur die Allgemeinheit
         | oder fur einen unbestimmten Personenkreis bestimmt sind.
         | 
         | Which in English would read something like this:
         | 
         | With radio equipment you are only allowed to listen to, or take
         | note of in some other way, those messages that are addressed to
         | the operator of the equipment, those messages that are
         | addressed to ham radio operators in general, those messages
         | that are addressed to the general public or for an undefined
         | group of people.
         | 
         | This is of course absolutely unenforceable, untraceable and
         | generally ridicoulus, but it is what it is. Imagine your
         | neighbours having very loud arguments (or very loud 'horizontal
         | discussions') in a clairaudient flat, and then telling you that
         | you cannot listen to it. And being correct legally ;)
         | 
         | [1] https://www.buzer.de/5_TTDSG.htm
        
           | isoprophlex wrote:
           | > "Wir haben unsere Daten gesichert, indem wir nicht
           | autorisierte Benutzer freundlich gebeten haben, nicht darauf
           | zu schauen."
           | 
           | :^)
        
             | 082349872349872 wrote:
             | You all may appreciate (a short browse away from TFA):
             | Antragsformular fur den Passierschein A38
             | 
             | https://blinry.org/passierschein-a38/
        
         | newman8r wrote:
         | There are also FCC regulations in the US that relate to
         | receiving signals under certain circumstances:
         | https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/interception-and-divulg...
        
         | yencabulator wrote:
         | I recall Finland had a rule that you can listen (how else would
         | you hear the next message meant for you on maritime VHF), but
         | you can't repeat things publicly or act on knowledge gained
         | from that. Now, why would that be? Well, it's mostly to
         | minimize sensationalist news reporting of people's accidents,
         | misfortunes and such, whether maritime or over old school
         | police radio (before it was encrypted). Discourage ambulance
         | chasing, that sort of thing. It's just another part of the
         | European attitude toward privacy.
        
       | Prcmaker wrote:
       | I have a soft spot for SDR. I've only done a bit of it, but the
       | mathematical techniques I learned from it helped kick start my
       | career. While I worked in a different field, having made friends
       | with frequency and phase analysis was hugely powerful.
        
       | dgacmu wrote:
       | SDR is great. I'm using an RTL-SDR dongle together with the
       | rtlamr software to read my gas meter. It provides measurements
       | about every 30 seconds, and my gas company doesn't give any real-
       | time data. Quite handy.
       | 
       | (and I run an adsb receiver, which incidentally provides free
       | access to FlightAware and other services if you share with them.)
        
         | demondemidi wrote:
         | What frequency is your gas meter transmitting at?
        
       | krallja wrote:
       | Off-topic, web performance: compress your images, use caching
       | headers, and/or serve them via a CDN (ideally one that supports
       | HTTP/2). The current server is not powerful enough to handle the
       | current set of images on this post in a reasonable time.
        
       | paradox460 wrote:
       | I set up one to pull readings from my utility meters. Now I've
       | got the exact figures the power company uses to calculate my
       | bill, and can track it throughout the month, entirely offline
        
         | demondemidi wrote:
         | Do you happen to have a write-up of this? I'd be interested in
         | building the same capability, although I doubt we have the same
         | provider.
        
           | paradox460 wrote:
           | I'll get one written up post haste
           | 
           | I've been batting around a few blog posts on various home
           | automation projects and will probably sit down and write this
           | one this afternoon
           | 
           | I'll reply with an link when it's up
        
             | demondemidi wrote:
             | Thanks! After I asked this I googled around and found on
             | GitHub bemasher/rtlamr, but discovered it doesn't work on
             | my meter's network (FlexNet/Icon/Census). Hopefully someone
             | figures out FlexNet, I'd like to add my meters to my home
             | data collection!
        
       | pbnjeh wrote:
       | Images still very slow, but:
       | 
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20240316173921/https://blinry.or...
       | 
       | (there are also two snapshots from today (2024-03-17), but
       | yesterday's is the one I didn't give up on waiting to load)
       | 
       | or
       | 
       | https://archive.is/ZHnfV
       | 
       | Saving with SinglePage, it's around 125 MB (original a bit less,
       | archived copy a bit more).
        
       | tamimio wrote:
       | Here's more stuff to add I did before:
       | 
       | - Scan for drones that are using RC link
       | 
       | - Scan nearby cell operators and their metrics.
       | 
       | - Scan and pentest cellular networks
       | 
       | - Create your own LTE/5G tower.
       | 
       | - Transmitting FM/AM radio
       | 
       | - Communicate with other pilots by tuning on airband
       | 
       | Among others, for this you need a full duplex SDR, so rtl or
       | hackrf won't do, limeSDR or bladRF would.
       | 
       | For the author: I did have a realtime voice over SDRangel, it
       | allows you to have the sdr in a physical location away from you,
       | if I got some time I will write how to do it.
        
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