[HN Gopher] More AR Glasses USB Protocols: The Worse, the Better...
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       More AR Glasses USB Protocols: The Worse, the Better and the
       Prettier
        
       Author : Lwrless
       Score  : 58 points
       Date   : 2024-03-13 13:40 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | araes wrote:
       | Hungary, why do you have so many AR glasses choices when Meta and
       | Apple in North America seem unable to provide anything consumers
       | desire?
       | 
       | Those glasses all look positively cool and wearable by
       | comparison. Even the canine looks kind of classy in the Grawoow
       | (?) glasses. I'm not sure normal humans would even notice the
       | Rokid or XReal glasses. From another article, the Rokid type
       | apparently sit floating off your face kind of weird. [1] They
       | also never show anything other than image mockups, which makes me
       | suspicious of the actual experience.
       | 
       | Do the images all just look horrible internally, or have
       | projector washout? Cause otherwise these all look pretty
       | reasonable for the morning commute and I'm not sure why there's
       | so much of a focus on goggles.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.techradar.com/computing/virtual-reality-
       | augmente...
        
         | hcazz wrote:
         | I'm based in the US. Most of those options are available from
         | Amazon.
         | 
         | I've owned both the Viture glasses and the nreal air (back when
         | they were called nreal rather than xreal). The picture quality
         | on them is more than enough to use as a second display, but
         | where it shines for me is on flights. It _mostly_ just looks
         | like a normal pair of oversized glasses, but presents an
         | incredible display on that is miles beyond any in flight
         | entertainment system.
         | 
         | I only bought the Viture because I lost/forgot my original
         | nreal air glasses on a flight and they were never found.
        
           | RajT88 wrote:
           | Same, I can buy these in the US either off Amazon or from the
           | manufacturer's websites.
           | 
           | For my money, I'm waiting for the tech to improve a bit more
           | before I buy the XReal Air's. A little bit smaller, a little
           | bit better tracking and support for using phone on Desktop
           | mode, or a PC in multi-monitor mode. I'd like something which
           | is both great on the go, and worth using at home, when I feel
           | like my multi-monitor setup doesn't have quite enough screen
           | real estate for some computing task.
        
           | Eugr wrote:
           | I have NReal/XReal Air, and I find them very uncomfortable. I
           | wear glasses, so I have to use prescription inserts, so it
           | adds to the weight. While they are not too heavy, they put
           | too much weight on the bridge of my nose and tend to slide
           | down over time. They are also very sensitive to placement, so
           | if they slide down a little, you can't see the entire screen
           | anymore. The FOV is pretty narrow.
        
             | saurik wrote:
             | The Viture One has a built-in diopter correction wheel
             | which can correct up to 4 diopters (which might not be good
             | enough for you; it is just barely good enough for me).
        
       | kelvie wrote:
       | As the owner of a pair of one of these glasses, I really like
       | using them in bed at night as a monitor that isn't mega bright
       | while my partner is asleep.
       | 
       | Or whilst sitting on the couch as I don't like having to look
       | down to play games (and saves my arm from getting numb from
       | holding up a Steam Deck).
       | 
       | I hope that due to reverse-engineering these protocols we'll
       | finally get some cool (open source) features out of these! The
       | one I have (xreal Air) is really comfortable to wear, but the
       | 1080p resolution is more like 720p due to the fact that pixels
       | aren't always crisp when reading text (I think it has to do with
       | the prism), so e.g. a head tracking larger desktop would be
       | amazing.
       | 
       | I think there is already some work on that (e.g.
       | https://www.reddit.com/r/Xreal/comments/16cj63g/steam_deck_h...
       | ), but I'm waiting for it to be good enough to integrate with e.g
       | Hyprland/wlroots so I will use it.
       | 
       | It'd also be cool even to have something like PaperWM track
       | left/right head movements.
        
       | squarefoot wrote:
       | Related question: what options are there for us wearing
       | eyeglasses?
        
         | karurosu wrote:
         | xreal supports custom made prescription inserts. it comes with
         | blanks you can take to an optometrist to get them made.
        
           | taskforcegemini wrote:
           | rokid does too
        
         | saidinesh5 wrote:
         | Rokid max supports focus adjustment from 0 to -6:
         | https://global.rokid.com/pages/product-help#display-adjustme...
         | 
         | I have an xreal air, for which i got lenses cut. (tbh, i took
         | sandpaper and dremel and cut it myself, based on the templates
         | they provided). I probably missed some thing because i have to
         | keep adjusting the glasses so my lenses cover the display
         | properly. Would love to try out Rokid for this very reason.
        
           | taskforcegemini wrote:
           | I wouldn't rely too much on the -6. very important is IPD as
           | well. mine didn't match so the outer corners were very
           | blurry. IPD can be changed via app, but that wasn't available
           | to me so couldn't test it. it's not really changing the IPD
           | but moving the active pixels instead
        
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