[HN Gopher] Arthropod Intelligence? The Case for Portia (2020)
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Arthropod Intelligence? The Case for Portia (2020)
Author : YeGoblynQueenne
Score : 51 points
Date : 2024-03-12 17:39 UTC (1 days ago)
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| digging wrote:
| Fairly well known on this site, but for those interested, some
| really good sci-fi authors inspired by Portia's brilliance
| include Peter Watts and Adrian Tchaikovsky.
| marinhero wrote:
| I loved Children of Time. Made me appreciate multi-generational
| stories for the first time. Also, the ants!
| digging wrote:
| If you haven't read it, the Octavia Butler trilogy called
| Lilith's Brood is a great multi-generational story as well.
| 0xE1337DAD wrote:
| Children of Time is my favorite sci fi novel. The sequel isn't
| bad either, the 3rd one gets a little weird, but i thought the
| argument about "sentience" != "intelligence" was an interesting
| one. This is a prevailing theme in Blindsight by Peter Watts
| too, but I felt the technobabble really took away from the
| theme and distracted from story.
| MiguelHudnandez wrote:
| This reminded me of Blindsight as well. The fact that
| intelligence does not have to present in a way that's
| familiar to us is important to keep in mind.
|
| Thank you for bringing up Children of Time... off to go get
| it.
| 7thaccount wrote:
| One reason why I wonder if communications with
| extraterrestrials will ever be as simple as we hope.
|
| We struggle to communicate with our own species and other
| creatures that are related to us.
| throwanem wrote:
| "If a lion could speak, we could not understand him."
| dudinax wrote:
| And of course the classic of Sci-Fi of unusual
| intelligence: Solaris by Stanislaw Lem.
| duskwuff wrote:
| > This is a prevailing theme in Blindsight by Peter Watts too
|
| Portia is explicitly referenced in the sequel _Echopraxia_.
| gpderetta wrote:
| Indeed, but I think parent was referring to "sentience" !=
| "intelligence" .
| nozzlegear wrote:
| The third book of the series was my favorite thanks to those
| two corvid characters (the sentience versus intelligence
| being alluded to, for those who haven't read the book). Their
| little monologue (duologue? actually, monologue?) to Doctor
| Kern about sentience at the end of the book was so
| interesting.
| stanac wrote:
| Third book is a bit weird, but I enjoyed the second book more
| than the first one. I don't want to spoil the book for anyone
| but new intelligent species were shocking and more
| interesting than spiders. Now I have have to check what
| Tchaikovsky will publish this year.
| 0xE1337DAD wrote:
| I've been going through his whole filmography and haven't
| run into anything I've disliked yet. Much of it is in an
| audiobook format on your local library app.
| tibbydudeza wrote:
| Awesome book from Adrian - intelligent spiders using ants for
| computing.
| UncleOxidant wrote:
| The spiders also used the ants as cameras.
| gumby wrote:
| Hexapodia as the key insight
|
| -- Twirlip of the Mists
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