[HN Gopher] Boeing whistleblower found dead in US
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       Boeing whistleblower found dead in US
        
       Author : neapolisbeach
       Score  : 102 points
       Date   : 2024-03-11 21:45 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.bbc.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.bbc.com)
        
       | fifteen1506 wrote:
       | So sad he's dead :(
       | 
       | It's infuriating all these untimely deaths.
        
       | torstenvl wrote:
       | "Self-inflicted wound"? Obviously the story is still developing
       | but I'm immediately skeptical.
       | 
       | EDIT: Also weird that BBC is already memory-holing that it was a
       | _gunshot_ wound. archive.is has the original.
       | 
       | https://archive.is/wj0LE
        
         | algorias wrote:
         | Same. I'm not much for conspiracy theories, but that is very
         | strange wording.
        
           | mpweiher wrote:
           | "Stabbed himself to death 14 times"?
        
             | mvdtnz wrote:
             | Who are you quoting here?
        
         | jjk166 wrote:
         | Self inflicted wound in the middle of several days of scheduled
         | depositions.
         | 
         | Just about as suspicious as could be.
        
         | robotnikman wrote:
         | Yep, the timing of his death is just too on point.
        
         | rl3 wrote:
         | > _Also weird that BBC is already memory-holing that it was a
         | gunshot wound._
         | 
         | Another source backs this up, and seems to have interviewed the
         | man's attorney in the past. [0][1]
         | 
         | It's tempting to dismiss foul play on the basis that it's too
         | brazen in the middle of a deposition. However, that's also the
         | height of plausible deniability because cross examinations can
         | get personal and thus emotional.
         | 
         | ---
         | 
         | I can't help but be reminded of a film quote:
         | 
         |  _" But that's the way it works with corporate murder. Boss
         | gets wind of something, calls in his head of security, who
         | talks to someone, who talks to a friend of someone. Finishes up
         | with an answering machine in a rented office, a couple of
         | sensitive gentlemen in a blue pickup truck. They will never
         | know who ordered the hit."_ [2]
         | 
         | [0] https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/boeing-
         | whist...
         | 
         | [1] https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/brian-
         | knowle...
         | 
         | [2] https://www.scripts.com/script/the_constant_gardener_702/17
        
           | esoterica wrote:
           | Movies aren't real dude.
        
         | charlie0 wrote:
         | Was it multiple shots?
        
       | keernan wrote:
       | He was scheduled to appear for day two of his deposition
       | testimony the morning of his death. Had he died Sat night instead
       | of Sat morning, the transcript of Saturday's testimony could have
       | been read to the jury during trial. Obviously that can't happen
       | now and whatever he was going to say in Saturday's testimony is
       | lost forever.
        
       | LinuxBender wrote:
       | I hope the company had no involvement in this. It would be bit
       | futile given such a large audience has seen their employees state
       | they won't fly in the aircraft they build. [1] _3,716,935 views 4
       | days ago_ and Blancolirio 's assorted incident reports [2]
       | 
       | [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8oCilY4szc [video][32
       | mins][john oliver]
       | 
       | [2] - https://www.youtube.com/@blancolirio/search?query=boeing
        
         | bandyaboot wrote:
         | Yeah, doing something so drastic in this situation doesn't make
         | sense. It's possible that reality is somewhere in the middle. I
         | have a very difficult time believing they would actually off
         | the guy, but it's not so difficult to believe they might hire
         | some investigators to look for skeletons in his closet. Perhaps
         | they found some. Obviously this is wild speculation and not
         | intended to be a theory--just an example of something short of
         | full-on Tom Clancy.
        
         | Qem wrote:
         | > It would be bit futile given such a large audience has seen
         | their employees state they won't fly in the aircraft they
         | build.
         | 
         | Perhaps not in this particular case. But it would be a strong
         | deterrent against future would be whistleblowers.
        
       | Qem wrote:
       | He should have done like Snowden. Got out of the country before
       | exposing material. Shouldn't a witness in a high profile case
       | like him been granted some sort of police escort by the court?
       | 
       | Guy paid the ultimate price for freedom of speech and informing
       | the public. Wonder if someone will sustain there is no threat to
       | freedom of speech because the lawsuit involved the company where
       | he was employed, not the government.
       | 
       | I'm also reminded of Aaron Schartz, as well as the ordeal Steven
       | Donzinger went through against Chevron. Fortunately survived, but
       | had to serve some prison time[1].
       | 
       | [1]. https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/steven-
       | don...
        
       | 93po wrote:
       | I imagine this is going to further the terrible safety culture at
       | Boeing
        
       | esoterica wrote:
       | Conspiracy theorists are the legitimately the stupidest people on
       | the planet. Nobody working for a megacorp is loyal enough to the
       | company to eat a murder charge just to boost their employer's
       | profits by 1%. You really think some corporate drone who browses
       | LinkedIn after work looking to job hop for a 10% pay increase is
       | going to go out and hire a hitman just because his boss told him
       | to?
        
       | tiahura wrote:
       | As a lawyer and non-kook, I don't fall for conspiracy. Chances
       | are he was lying or had skeletons he didn't want aired0.
       | 
       | Still, very sad.
        
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