[HN Gopher] Tests show high-temperature superconducting magnets ...
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       Tests show high-temperature superconducting magnets are ready for
       fusion
        
       Author : paulsutter
       Score  : 33 points
       Date   : 2024-03-08 22:35 UTC (25 minutes ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (news.mit.edu)
 (TXT) w3m dump (news.mit.edu)
        
       | CrzyLngPwd wrote:
       | ...in thirty years.
        
         | artninja1988 wrote:
         | ...from the date of anyone asking, always
        
       | catchnear4321 wrote:
       | > only needs hydrogen atoms for fuel rather than rare and
       | dangerous elements like uranium and plutonium
       | 
       | hydrogen isn't exactly the safest element. not that any element
       | is truly safe if used in the wrong way.
        
         | porkbeer wrote:
         | How is it unsafe? I just electroplated on my desk and hydrogen
         | was formed (right next to pure o2) with zero danger. Sure, an
         | accumulated mix near stoich might be an issue, but that is easy
         | to avoid.
        
           | catchnear4321 wrote:
           | and you can split water and make neat bubbles of two
           | elements. more likely to shock yourself than make a boom.
           | 
           | most elements are safe if you handle them properly. that
           | assumes nothing outside of your control. and no one.
        
         | u320 wrote:
         | So he's pushing an energy solution that requires Tritium. One
         | of the rarest elements of earth. And then has the nerve to
         | accuse fission of relying on rare elements.
        
           | refulgentis wrote:
           | Who is he and where are they pushing tritium?
           | 
           | Is the word tritium in the article? Chrome can't find it.
           | 
           | Is hydrogen more common than uranium?
           | 
           | Is hydrogen more common than plutonium?
           | 
           | What do you mean by "the nerve to accuse"?
           | 
           | What quote demonstrates "accuse"?
           | 
           | Full disclosure: I live in Cambridge, MA, where MIT is
           | located.
        
       | dang wrote:
       | Url changed from https://futurism.com/the-byte/mit-magnets-ready-
       | fusion, which points to this.
       | 
       | (Normally we prefer the best third-party article to a press
       | release but the balance of information here points the other
       | way.)
        
       | bananapub wrote:
       | I really wish people involved in fusion research, and their
       | university/corporate PR colleagues, had not spent the last forty
       | years poisoning the fucking well. fusion power is still so far
       | away that it can't even figure in to our plans for reducing
       | emissions to zero, and yet people still publish articles like
       | this to muddy the waters and make it sound like it matters in the
       | short term at all.
        
         | cubefox wrote:
         | The real question is whether it can ever compete against
         | fission in terms of cost. Currently it looks like fusion power
         | plants will be substantially more expensive than fission power
         | plants.
        
       | u320 wrote:
       | > "Overnight, it basically changed the cost per watt of a fusion
       | reactor by a factor of almost 40 in one day,"
       | 
       | So there is this myth that fusion enables unlimited cheap energy.
       | This is 100% false. It's not unlimited at all. Most concepts
       | relies on using lithium-6. That's not a super common element.
       | 
       | But more importantly, it's not cheap. That should be obvious, if
       | you could reduce the cost per watt 40x and still not be
       | competitive.
        
       | pinewurst wrote:
       | It's interesting that it took 3 years from the physical test
       | until paper publication.
        
       | saagarjha wrote:
       | The fusion will be power to create AGI, of course. The AGI will
       | help find the cure to cancer.
        
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