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Using accesskey attribute in HTML forms and links (2006)
Author : tweetle_beetle
Score : 28 points
Date : 2024-03-06 10:26 UTC (1 days ago)
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| extra88 wrote:
| "Date of last update: 2006-05-08."
|
| The MDN page about accesskeys has useful information, including a
| table of the modifier keys used in different OS+browser
| combinations.
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| https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Global_att...
| crtasm wrote:
| Please don't do this. Every day I use standard browser shortcuts
| and find a site has hijacked them.
| mixmastamyk wrote:
| Breaking "/" or Ctrl+F makes me furious.
| crtasm wrote:
| Those and ctrl+k , alt+d , etc.
| AlienRobot wrote:
| Imagine you had an application that could do cool stuff.
|
| But nobody knew what cool stuff it could do unless they digged up
| a webpage from 2006.
|
| That's the modern web browser.
|
| The lack of discoverability in modern UI design is reaching
| utterly ridiculous levels. And I firmly believe the lack of main
| menus and statusbars is to blame.
|
| Look at how ridiculous this is https://developer.mozilla.org/en-
| US/docs/Web/CSS/Alternative...
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| Firefox used to have this in its main menu. You could stumble
| across it. Now nobody knows it even exists and they think
| light/dark themes are a real alternative to the full spectrum of
| colors and designs we could have before (if only webmasters
| implemented it, which they never did (but anyways I blame
| browsers for this because very few people even knew they could
| add alternative stylesheets to their own websites and users had
| no notification that they could switch rendering the incredible
| feature pretty much useless all the time)). Then browsers look at
| their metrics and how nobody is using the feature they told
| nobody about and decide to stop supporting it because why would
| they support a feature nobody uses, right?
|
| Reddit had entire subdomains to do what Firefox could do with a
| single click in the main menu.
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| There could be a key that if I press it Chrome sends me to the
| search box at the bottom of this page, and I will never know
| about it because when I click the search box there isn't a status
| bar unintrusively hinting to me "hey, heads up, you can press
| Ctrl+Alt+Shift+S to quickly go to this box ;)" and I don't think
| we'll ever get that back.
| icedchai wrote:
| Absolutely. As a Firefox user for 15+ years, I'd never tried
| View/Page Style before seeing this post...
| crooked-v wrote:
| On that note, I think the best app I've seen for button hotkey
| observability is Eagle (https://eagle.cool) (ironically built
| in Electron), which uses a simple setup of unobtrusive tooltips
| that give a label for the button you hover over and whatever
| hotkey triggers it.
| marcosdumay wrote:
| You know, there used to be a standard on how shortcuts were
| presented, that the developer didn't even have to think about
| because it was handled by the GUI widgets, and didn't require
| mouse interaction (but worked with the mouse too).
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| Every single application used to follow it.
| extra88 wrote:
| Firefox for Mac still has a menu bar and View > Page Style is
| still there.
|
| Alternative Style Sheets are cool but the idea needs to be
| taken further In Firefox, if you browse full one page to
| another on the same site with the same sheets available, it
| still switches to the new page's default sheet. Imagine if
| sites could have a persistent theme picker using a browser UI!
| mixmastamyk wrote:
| Alt+V, Y
|
| I use this occasionally when Reader Mode can't rescue a page.
| jt3rd wrote:
| MDN docs recommend against using accesskey.
|
| https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Global_att...
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| Keyboard accessibility on the web is fraught and overdue for more
| attention from standards committees IMO. It's another thing
| pushing people toward Electron instead of sticking with standard
| web platform. Relying on modifier keys has too much risk of
| colliding with browser or OS behavior.
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| The most sophisticated approaches I've seen opt for a modifier-
| less multi-key "chord" approach, e.g. GMail/Fastmail web UIs.
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