[HN Gopher] Ubisoft is killing off a game millions have bought (...
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Ubisoft is killing off a game millions have bought (The Crew)
Author : beretguy
Score : 31 points
Date : 2024-02-26 19:42 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| not_your_vase wrote:
| It really adds a new meaning to the saying "You get what you pay
| for".
|
| If you don't vote with your wallet, no one else will do it for
| you.
|
| Of course, one could also get a discless PS5 slim/xbox. All games
| will cease to work in 2033, but that time will never come, so why
| not.
| beretguy wrote:
| > It really adds a new meaning to the saying "You get what you
| pay for".
|
| It's more like "you DON'T get what you pay for".
| scotty79 wrote:
| You don't get what you think you've paid for.
|
| In actuality all that you paid for is "protection" money to
| copyright mafia enforcers.
| markx2 wrote:
| Do not forget that when you look at your Steam profile;
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| https://steamcommunity.com/id/[username]/games/?tab=all
|
| that you own none.
|
| Zero
|
| You own a license which can be revoked and you - currently - have
| no recourse.
|
| https://gog.com is one alternative, I am sure others here know
| more.
| beretguy wrote:
| > You own a license which can be revoked and you - currently -
| have no recourse.
|
| Correct.
|
| In USA it's all thanks to ProCS v. Zeidenberg:
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| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProCD,_Inc._v._Zeidenberg
|
| As far as I understand based on reading that wiki if company
| writes in that license that they can take away your ability to
| use software then you don't own software that you buy.
|
| People need to boycott online only, server dependent games.
|
| However, in other countries this may be illegal and needs to be
| challenged.
| armchairhacker wrote:
| > As far as I understand based on reading that wiki if
| company writes in that license that they can take away your
| ability to use software then you don't own software that you
| buy.
|
| I didn't get that at all? The ruling just states that a
| company can put a license in their software that you have to
| open first, and you accept once you start using the software.
| It doesn't say that licenses that arbitrarily revoke the
| software are enforceable.
| beretguy wrote:
| > However, this did not lead to a victory for Zeidenberg,
| because the circuit court held that copyright law does not
| preempt contract law. Since ProCD had made the investments
| in its business and its specific SelectPhone product, it
| could require customers to agree to its terms on how to use
| the product, including a prohibition on copying the
| information therein regardless of copyright protections.
|
| Specifically this part:
|
| "it could require customers to agree to its terms on how to
| use the product".
|
| Since Ubisoft invested money into developing a game they
| can legally say in their license "at some point you won't
| be able to use this software", which basically translates
| to "you don't own software".
| EA-3167 wrote:
| > You own a license which can be revoked and you - currently -
| have no recourse.
|
| Well famously there is one recourse, it's just that things like
| Steam are more convenient. If that changes though, well...
|
| ...Arr.
| JohnFen wrote:
| Yep.
|
| This is why I won't pay money for a product that I can't have
| in my physical control. It's just not worth it.
| transcriptase wrote:
| Sure, but people were saying that 20 years ago when I made my
| Steam account and so far the sky hasn't fallen.
|
| Meanwhile there are plenty of games I have the CDROM for that
| won't work because of hardcoded compatibility requirements, key
| authentication servers being offline, or multiplayer being tied
| to a defunct service like MSN zone or GameSpy.
| drexlspivey wrote:
| If a game requires some server to be online somewhere in order
| to function what difference does it make if you bought it from
| steam or gog or anywhere else?
| beretguy wrote:
| It doesn't. Eventually you won't be able to play the game
| regardless.
|
| But you mentioned gog. AFAIK gog does not sell games you
| can't own.
| 0cf8612b2e1e wrote:
| Not true. There are several games on GOG that retain DRM.
| Not the majority, but they exist in various flavors of
| requiring a network connection.
| beretguy wrote:
| ... and this is the court ruling to blame for such a thing to be
| legal in USA:
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| ProCD, Inc. v. Zeidenberg
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProCD,_Inc._v._Zeidenberg
| jabsters wrote:
| Accursed Farms on YouTube is trying to gather the community to
| take actions, specifically outside the US:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4
| Jemm wrote:
| Prior to NAFTA we could rent software. NAFTA made that illegal.
| Now we have this system but how is it really different?
| yungporko wrote:
| really reaching for a story here. ubisoft are shutting down an
| online game that has been running for 10 years which flopped,
| wasn't very good, and which zero people actually care about.
|
| with all the disgusting things ubisoft actually do, we don't need
| to be making things up to get angry about.
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