[HN Gopher] On Light, Colors, Mixing Paints, and Numerical Optim...
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On Light, Colors, Mixing Paints, and Numerical Optimization
Author : ibobev
Score : 67 points
Date : 2024-02-26 19:02 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| sagebird wrote:
| This is a lovely exploration of color. Thank you for sharing.
| sdenton4 wrote:
| Absolutely love this.
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| I've been getting into mixing for miniature painting myself, but
| with a bit of added perspective which (I think) isn't captured
| here.
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| It turns out there's more than just raw color going on here.
| Acrylic paints have different degrees of opacity, and you can
| increase transparency by mixing in acrylic medium. Additionally,
| adding water and/or flow-improver helps the acrylics slide off
| flat surfaces into crevices, producing deeper colors in recesses
| and thinner applications in open areas - this is the principle
| which gives us washes, shades, and contrast/speed paints.
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| And there's basic acrylic mediums (matte or gloss) but also
| specialty mediums which have more texture (gels, modeling pastes)
| or additives (pumice, fiber, glass micro-beads). [Edit: And of
| course, Metallics!!! There's a few different additives, like
| mica, which are used to create metallic paints.]
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| Together, this points to a combinatorial problem: No pre-mixed
| bottles will ever cover all of the possibilities, so you have to
| start mixing paints (and mediums!) to achieve the desired effects
| in any particular project.
| dt23 wrote:
| Such a nice surprisingly thorough overview (nice diagrams too!)
| oluckyman wrote:
| Nice description! For project of this type that has been going
| for 20 years, and covers many different paint sets, see
| https://zsolt-kovacs.unibs.it/colormixingtools
| itronitron wrote:
| Nice write up from a technical/engineering perspective however it
| has some notable gaps on the color 'perception' side.
| fjfaase wrote:
| I know an artist who is an expert of mixing colors and lightning.
| He spend his whole life mixing colors. In the past decades he
| created several color palettes to be use inside and/or outside
| buildings [1]. In 2013 and 2014 he created 21 works (consisting
| of pairs of paintings) that contain color palettes experimenting
| with variations of brightness and saturation of six evenly passed
| colors [2]. In 2020/2021, he created eight works with color
| palettes existing of twelve even passed colors with the same
| brightness and saturation (by daylight) [3].
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| He complains a lot about lightning in museums, that it deviates a
| lot from daylight, while many works of art are create by
| daylight. The light is often too yellow, based on some 'dubious'
| research that museum visitors prefer yellow light. LED lightning
| often causes mixtures of pigments that look the same under
| daylight to look different under LED lightning. LED lightning
| often is rather weak in the infra-red to red part of the spectrum
| cause most reds in painting to fade. He found a combination of a
| reddish and a blue TL-lamps supporting to LED lights to give a
| better approximation of daylight. When this was applied to some
| museum rooms, the son of a man who donated a work, asked what
| they did with it work as it looked again like how it looked at
| their home when it was hung close to the windows. (Shortly after
| this the museum director decided to use only LED lightning for
| the new wing that was going to be build.)
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| The problem of course is that we are so used to adapt our color
| vision to the lightning that most people do not see the
| difference. I guess that people who mix colors all the time,
| develop some kind of absolute color vision and do notice the
| effect of improper lightning on art works.
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| [1] https://www.pstruycken.nl/EnDyn.html?Li,tag=q&w
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| [2] https://www.pstruycken.nl/EnS14.html
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| [3] https://www.pstruycken.nl/EnS20.html
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