[HN Gopher] Dell promises 'every PC is going to be an AI PC' whe...
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       Dell promises 'every PC is going to be an AI PC' whether you like
       it or not
        
       Author : rntn
       Score  : 15 points
       Date   : 2024-02-26 18:43 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | JohnFen wrote:
       | Dell wishes!
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       | I imagine (or hope/wish) that there will remain a market for
       | machines that don't include this. I don't see a day when I'll be
       | using AI systems on my own machines, and I don't want to pay for
       | hardware support that I'll never use.
        
         | freedomben wrote:
         | I suspect Dell isn't going to be all that correct. No way that
         | Microsoft is going to give up server-side processing and all
         | the sweet sweet data it entails.
         | 
         | Actually before finishing this comment I changed my mind.
         | Windows will collect and send all that data to Microsoft
         | regardless whether it runs client-side or server side. Client
         | side shifts the electricity and cloud bill to the user, so
         | that's a big win. It's also hardware that can get obsolete and
         | need to be replaced, which means future sales.
         | 
         | Ignore me, I have no idea what to think.
        
         | Koshkin wrote:
         | But the hardware is already here!
         | 
         | https://www.macobserver.com/tips/deep-dive/what-is-apple-neu...
        
           | JohnFen wrote:
           | That's only for Apple products, which is fine because I don't
           | have to use Apple products. I'm not objecting to machines
           | that have "AI hardware" in them. There are people who want
           | that. I'm objecting to the idea that _all_ machines will have
           | such hardware in them.
           | 
           | To be clear, I don't think that's going to be the case, which
           | is why I started my comment with "Dell wishes".
        
         | tester756 wrote:
         | >I imagine (or hope/wish) that there will remain a market for
         | machines that don't include this. I don't see a day when I'll
         | be using AI systems on my own machines, and I don't want to pay
         | for hardware support that I'll never use.
         | 
         | I dont understand, like... why bother?
         | 
         | You check what CPU instruction or what "tiles" your CPU has in
         | order to decide which CPU has too much specialized stuff that
         | you dont need?
        
           | JohnFen wrote:
           | It's what I said in my comment: if I'm not going to use it, I
           | don't want to have to pay for it.
           | 
           | If it exists but doesn't cost more money, doesn't increase
           | complexity, energy use, etc., then I don't care one way or
           | another.
        
             | tester756 wrote:
             | Well, since it is huge manufacturing at scale
             | 
             | Then there's possibility that removing it could increase
             | cost, who knows?
        
         | janderland wrote:
         | I wonder if people felt this way about integrated GPUs. I
         | wouldn't be surprised to see integrated AI hardware become
         | standard in the same way.
        
       | nisa wrote:
       | AI is the new multimedia (yes I'm old, I remember it was all the
       | hype in the 90ies) - the word already lost any meaning for
       | consumer products anyway.
       | 
       | Personally I'm a little scared because it will probably end with
       | proprietary closed source implementations in hardware and
       | software that relentlessly send all of my interactions via
       | internet to the vendor anyway.
       | 
       | On the other hand hopefully someone manages to exploit the
       | hardware.
       | 
       | Having fast matrix multiplication available would be great but I
       | guess nobody will bother.
        
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