[HN Gopher] Notes on paper (2023)
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Notes on paper (2023)
Author : Tomte
Score : 40 points
Date : 2024-02-25 20:14 UTC (1 days ago)
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| voussoir wrote:
| Hi, this is my article and your post came into my RSS feed. I'm
| surprised my website has visitors! Let me know if you have any
| questions. Thanks
| alexpotato wrote:
| How do you store the individual paper over time?
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| e.g. do you have a special binder with clear sleeves etc?
| voussoir wrote:
| I actually can't remember that well, but I don't think I used
| anything special. There might have been a few courses where I
| just used a paper folder with simple pockets inside, and some
| courses where I used a three-ring binder with section
| dividers for the courses. I would set the paper in between
| the dividers and it would stay there well enough by friction
| without any help.
|
| The total number of pages for each course was never very high
| because we were on quarters instead of semesters. If there
| were a lot of pages I'd probably add some sleeves to secure
| the pages -- but I would be fine with putting several pages
| in each sleeve rather than one page each.
|
| After the course was over I put the pages into 9x12 clasped
| folders and that's where they piled up until I did this scan.
|
| Thanks!
| rambambram wrote:
| You have interesting articles. You might want to set up an RSS
| feed for your 'writing' page, because I definitely want to keep
| updated on new posts.
| voussoir wrote:
| Thanks! Here's the link, it's at the bottom of the article
| list but I suppose it doesn't stand out well enough.
|
| https://voussoir.net/writing/writing.atom
| velcrovan wrote:
| Handwritten notes can be very useful in the short term. But there
| is often this impulse to implement some kind of
| digitization/archival system for them as well. I wonder how many
| people who have done this have found real value in the digitized
| notes?
| sph wrote:
| Digitized notes are a good idea in theory, in practice most
| notes are write-only and are never read back ever again. Add
| the fact that writing a note by hand is proven to be a much
| better memory aid than storing it in a computer.
|
| I suffer from terrible memory retention because of ADHD, so I
| need to rely to external storage more than most people--yet
| after obsessing about note taking for a while I reached
| productivity enlightenment: I really do not need to remember
| and categorise most of my thoughts and notes. I produce
| millions of ideas every day, and I have, hopefully, other 50
| years ahead of me of potentially interesting thoughts I might
| feel I want to remember, only to collapse under this ever-
| increasing weight of nonsense, of things that seemed important
| one day, and really were not in the grand scheme of things.
|
| No, these days I write, seldomly, on a paper notebook. I
| embrace my terrible memory and use it as a tool, to
| aggressively cull every extraneous thought du jour. If it's
| important, it'll come up again. If it's truly important, it'll
| keep me awake at night. That is the real problem of digital
| notes: they never fade away.
|
| The only things I keep in Org Mode are memories from decades
| ago I am sure I will want to reminisce about when I am 80. Like
| my family tree, the list of video games I loved as a kid, the
| important dates of my life.
| crestfallen wrote:
| In my experience (FWIW) there is value in archiving and
| preserving notes and other documents. Typically that value is
| _realized_ when you actually go back to them. That 's the hard
| part. If you can make that a habit, you're off to the races.
| voussoir wrote:
| I agree that I will probably never use these notes to go back
| and actually learn anything. I did this scanning project
| because I wanted to shred the paper and be rid of it, but I
| felt I should keep it digitally because it's so cheap and easy
| to. It seems sad to just discard work, even though the actual
| knowledge is still contained in the textbooks and, hopefully,
| my brain. But the doodles are worth more than the lecture notes
| from a nostalgia perspective.
| mixedmath wrote:
| I've found digitizing notes is not useful to me. I digitized
| all my notes from grad school and they're sort of a wash now.
|
| I still take lots of paper notes. One thing that had been very
| useful is to make (short, simple) indices in my paper notes and
| to digitize just the indices.
|
| It takes almost no time. The result is that when I want to look
| at old noted I can look up where in my digital indices, and
| then walk over to a shelf and pick out my notes. I've used this
| *a lot* and it's surprisingly helpful.
|
| Caveat: I'm a mathematician, so I have a lot of paper notes and
| half-baked ideas. So my paper notes often look more like a set
| of laboratory notebooks and not idle learning notebooks. I
| essentoally never look back on noted I take while learning some
| new subject.
| kushan2020 wrote:
| What good quality pen do you recommend ?
| twojacobtwo wrote:
| Having gone through a pen collecting phase, i think you need to
| give some details.
|
| 1. A budget. 2. Writing preferences and handedness. 3.
| Preferred writing surface/media. 4. Body type
|
| For 2, that would include:
|
| a) tip type - rollerball, ballpoint, fountain, or 'marker'.
|
| b) tip size/diameter (essentially contact surface area) e.g.
| 0.17mm-1.0+mm
|
| c) 'ink' type - gel etc.
|
| Handedness matters mostly because left handers typically want
| the fastest drying ink.
|
| Writing surface (paper) is important because it can drastically
| change how a pen writes (especially for fountain pens).
|
| The body type might include approx. thickness (compared to an
| average pencil maybe), body material (metal, plastic, wood),
| contoured grip (yes/no, material?), and retractability.
|
| If you don't know any of those, I would say just try to define
| what quality would mean to you.
| ryba1967 wrote:
| Try going through this list to see if anything clicks with you
| ryba1967 wrote:
| https://www.penaddict.com/top-5-pens
| voussoir wrote:
| My favorite pen is the Uniball Vision Micro. Not the "Elite"
| model, but the base model sometimes called the "Eye" in some
| regions.
|
| I've been using these for maybe 14 years? And I've got three
| dozen more in my desk cause you never know when something you
| like is gonna get discontinued.
| dailyplanet wrote:
| What scanner and scanning method did you use?
| voussoir wrote:
| They're big Ricoh brand scanners at my workplace and I used the
| top document feeder which was able to handle big stacks at
| once. 600 DPI, 1-bit tiff.
|
| We have a scanner at home but it's only got a glass bed, that's
| why I hadn't gotten around to doing this for so long.
| stettberger wrote:
| You would not believe it, but I just created (this week) a Latex
| TikZ library that helps me to create templates / journal inserts
| for the use case of handwritten notes. Although I believe in DIN
| A5 paper, it might be useful for someone:
|
| https://github.com/stettberger/notebook
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