[HN Gopher] Show HN: Nekoweb - a retro static web hosting
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Show HN: Nekoweb - a retro static web hosting
Author : dimden
Score : 89 points
Date : 2024-02-25 21:03 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (nekoweb.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (nekoweb.org)
| cebert wrote:
| If this is ad free and free to publish on, what's the
| monetization strategy? What the benefit to using Nekoweb over
| publishing static content to S3/CloudFront?
| dimden wrote:
| You can donate to receive perks: https://nekoweb.org/donate
| Benefit is participating in cool community of old web
| enthusiasts :)
| doublerabbit wrote:
| > If this is ad free and free to publish on, what's the
| monetization strategy?
|
| Why does this matter? If they can provide 99% uptime for the
| service they provide, I don't care.
|
| > What the benefit to using Nekoweb over publishing static
| content to S3/CloudFront?
|
| This is the attitude that kills the net. Sends of the vibe
| "It's not on AWS so it must not be used, don't you dare".
|
| What the benefit of to using S3/CloudFront?
|
| I suppose it all boils down to that folk not knowing the old
| internet. The understanding where you relied on hosting
| companies to provide webspace with an banner, or paid-so
| webspace that's now lost in today "innovative" world.
|
| One day the clouds will fall, and your site will be with it.
| gazook89 wrote:
| I guess the reason to ask about monetization is because you
| want to know how long a host is going to exist. Knowing how
| they plan to make money is a part of knowing the answer to
| that. As you say, it used to be good enough to have a space
| and accept there was an ad banner...but if no banner, then
| how?
| woofcat wrote:
| What's funny is when you ask that same question of a tech
| startup they simply say growth is what matters not revenue.
|
| CloudFlare has been losing money for ages. I use it but
| seemingly everyone is sure it'll last forever.
| doublerabbit wrote:
| That's the beauty of static websites, you don't need to
| care. If it was full fledged stack-enabled apps for an
| important function then yeah, sure.
|
| With static, if it dies tomorrow you take the raw html
| files and move it elsewhere. Sure, it's an inconvenience,
| but it's the same as to why you don't use a second hand
| eBay server for commercial piece of kit. I learnt that the
| hard-way.
| Klonoar wrote:
| _> One day the clouds will fall, and your site will be with
| it._
|
| ...what?
|
| S3 launched in '06 and is coming up on 20 years of being a
| thing. At this point it's had a stronger/longer lifespan -
| and will likely continue to do so - than pretty much any of
| the old net hosting sites.
|
| OP was clearly just asking why bother using something like
| this over <insert your choice of host here>. The only real
| answer is that you want to do something different - and
| that's totally fine.
| doublerabbit wrote:
| > S3 launched in '06 and is coming up on 20 years of being
| a thing. At this point it's had a stronger/longer lifespan
| - and will likely continue to do so - than pretty much any
| of the old net hosting sites.
|
| Many providers nowadays have existed long before S3, 1&1
| (now know as ionos) are another.
|
| So? My server has had just four years uptime that's not
| including all my other servers I've been hosting since the
| age of 13. I can service exactly the same as to what S3 can
| do. I just don't have PSLOL fund where I can invest in
| providing back-end infrastructure like the corp can do.
|
| I foresee it to likely continue to do so in to the future,
| I even have strategy plans for it when I pass away.
| Klonoar wrote:
| ...yeah, the point wasn't that you have a server that's
| been alive that long. The point is that your bit about
| "the clouds will fall" is needlessly hyperbolic. S3's
| been around just as long and has no signs of just dying
| off.
| giancarlostoro wrote:
| Or even neocities for that matter...
| OsrsNeedsf2P wrote:
| Why do people on HN always assume people create projects for
| capital? Lots of cool projects are simply hobbies (and they
| avoid the enshittification cycle that way, too)
| kome wrote:
| dude... is that satire?
| shantnutiwari wrote:
| Like neocities? Whats the difference?
| dimden wrote:
| It is pretty similar to Neocities. A little bit of differences
| are: - you can style your site box for discovery page - no
| limit for file types
|
| and some paid plan differences: - ftp support - up to 5 custom
| domains - cheaper (you can get 1 custom domain for $1 or 5 and
| all perks for $3 vs neocities' $5)
| gnramires wrote:
| This is pretty cool! If I may suggest something, on the
| explore view, avoid showing most popular (I think it can lead
| to rote behavior!)
|
| If I may suggest another algorithm, something like picking
| from most popular to least with probability ~1/(rank+k)^p,
| where p is any number >1, for example p=1.5, k=10.
|
| It can be implemented the following way (by computing the
| integral of the probability distribution):
|
| (1) Have sorted index by popularity with n items
|
| (2) Pick a random (double) r between 0 and 1
|
| (3) The chosen index is (if I did my integrals right;round to
| nearest integer):
|
| i = ( k^(p-1)*(n-1+k)^(p-1) / ( (r+1)*(n-1+k)^(p-1) -
| r*k^(p-1) ) ) ^ 1/(p-1) - k
| dimden wrote:
| sorry im too dumb to comprehend this math
| signaru wrote:
| It also reminded me of neocities which has a cat (neko) mascot.
| zeroCalories wrote:
| I'm always surprised by the creativity of these personal
| websites. The web is so utilitarian and marketing oriented that I
| forget that a web page is a blank canvas ready for artistic
| expression.
| echelon wrote:
| If Neocities captured the Geocities / Angelfire vibes of 1995 -
| 2001, then Nekoweb captures the budding anime / early
| Millennial vibe of 2000 - 2006. This was right around the time
| that Xanga, LiveJournal, and the rest started peeling apart the
| indie web.
|
| And by the time Facebook started growing, it was game over.
| chriscjcj wrote:
| I was a little disappointed not to see an "under construction"
| banner on any of the websites I surfed.
| meowtimemania wrote:
| I signed up, how do I update my website?
|
| edit: go to https://nekoweb.org/dashboard
| internetguy wrote:
| oh dimden! i love your neocities site! great to see you here
| dimden wrote:
| oh hi, people keep recognizing me in random places lol
| 101008 wrote:
| Found this one, I love the "affiliates" buttons
| https://lexiqqq.com/
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