[HN Gopher] You almost never see a clock at the mall
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You almost never see a clock at the mall
Author : brycehalley
Score : 115 points
Date : 2024-02-25 12:31 UTC (10 hours ago)
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| 082349872349872 wrote:
| Sounds like "infinite scroll" (and maybe even "personalised
| feed"?) were anticipated well before the smart phone
| ("fondleslab") era?
| ivanjermakov wrote:
| I'm surprised tiktok/reels/shorts don't go fullscreen and hide
| status bar with clock.
| boomboomsubban wrote:
| I like that they wrote this fine article, decided they needed to
| jazz it up a bit with some graphs, then decided to further make
| it pop by having seemingly the author pose as a topless DJ and a
| trumpeter.
| coldtea wrote:
| What about at a store selling clocks in the Mall?
| dynisor wrote:
| I worked selling watches for a time in my life and we were
| instructed that every watch on display had to be set and
| stopped at 10:10. Looking that up it seems to not have been
| specific to just the company I worked for.[1] So, counter-
| intuitively, a store selling clocks at the mall might not have
| the time displayed either. :)
|
| [1]
| https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10....
| bitbckt wrote:
| Fascinating. I don't remember where I picked up the same
| habit of setting broken clocks to 10:10, but I do the same
| with a couple of grandfather clocks I own for sentimental
| reasons.
| lambertsimnel wrote:
| British comedian Dave Gorman claims the clocks are set to
| that time (actually 10.08 in his example), because that
| makes them look happy, and they sell better that way:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSCRifY0H3Y
| klyrs wrote:
| Mall stores aren't selling high-end timepieces. If the clocks
| are running, they will visibly disagree unless you pay somebody
| to handle all of the merch every day, time that could be better
| spent looking bored.
| coldtea wrote:
| > _Mall stores aren 't selling high-end timepieces_
|
| Depends on the mall. I've certainly seen 5K and 10K
| timepieces in mall stores. In some places abroad even seen
| 100K timepieces next to high end clothing stores in malls.
|
| > _If the clocks are running, they will visibly disagree_
|
| Well, going the "low-end timepieces" case, the ones working
| with GPS or NTP time sync, like Apple watches and sports
| stuff will be on time...
| klyrs wrote:
| Sure, there will exceptions to any statement such general
| statement. By and large the majority of mall-clock
| offerings are going to be of the low-end variety. And even
| when clocks are remotely synced, you still need somebody
| going through and changing the batteries. Much cheaper to
| just set them to 10:10 and leave them unpowered/unwound.
| jerlam wrote:
| I'd be surprised if I went to buy a watch in a store and
| they handed me a dead watch. How do I know it even works?
| If they offered to replace the battery when I purchased
| it, I would take my business elseware, since I don't know
| if I trust their ability to change a battery correctly.
| WWLink wrote:
| The most accurate timepiece is usually the one with a cheap
| quartz crystal mechanism lol.
| biscuits1 wrote:
| They are correct twice daily. Frozen at 10:08!
| hcks wrote:
| Has the author tried the trick called free will
| bsdpufferfish wrote:
| A store owner does a marketing survey to find out what kind of
| music customers might like. The narrative is that he turns on a
| mind control device that makes you buy 5% more.
|
| With the debunking of "Thinking fast, and slow" this branch of
| psychology has hopefully run its course.
| selectodude wrote:
| I assure you behavioral economics has not run its course.
| bsdpufferfish wrote:
| That's pretty broad. I am referring to the style of
| analysis that heavily attributes slight environmental
| priming over all others factors (character, education,
| religion, mood, etc).
| T3OU-736 wrote:
| "Thinking, Fast and Slow" has been debunked? Could you
| provide a bit more context?
| Strilanc wrote:
| "Thinking, Fast and Slow" was written before the
| replication crisis was found. I wouldn't call it
| "debunked", but some of the research it used didn't
| replicate. For example, see
| https://replicationindex.com/2020/12/30/a-meta-scientific-
| pe... :
|
| > _It is likely that Kahneman's book, or at least some of
| his chapters, would be very different from the actual book,
| if it had been written just a few years later. However, in
| 2011 most psychologists believed that most published
| results in their journals can be trusted. [...]_
|
| > _Kahneman also started to wonder whether some of the
| results that he used in his book were real. A major concern
| was that implicit priming results might not be replicable.
| [...]_
|
| Anyways, just google "thinking fast and slow replication
| crisis" to get a bunch of information about this topic.
| bsdpufferfish wrote:
| I don't have links handy but the gist of it is that regular
| people do not automatically interpret questions asked of
| them in a technical manner (carefully parsing AND and OR
| logically), but instead try to intuit the asker's intent
| based on context.
|
| So many of the studies concluded that the general
| population is unable to reason about trivial problems
| involving likelihood. However, when given more context
| about what's being asked, they absolutely can.
| sidewndr46 wrote:
| I pretty much quit reading this when I read "emotional part" of
| your brain. As if the brain has explicit distinct parts with
| complete barriers between them and that they are selectively
| turned on and off. We're not unemotional when making logical
| decisions nor completely irrational when emotional moments
| occur. If human consicousness were so simple we wouldn't bother
| studying it.
| HeatrayEnjoyer wrote:
| Marketing works because free will is illusory. Humans are not
| tht free agents they believe themselves to be.
| bigstrat2003 wrote:
| I make choices of my own free will all the time. Also,
| marketing doesn't work on me (never has) so I'm not
| particularly impressed by the claims that it works.
| resolutebat wrote:
| Please allow Miranda Priestley to disabuse you of that
| notion:
|
| https://youtu.be/Ja2fgquYTCg?feature=shared
| karaterobot wrote:
| > After 40 minutes, their brains effectively shut down. They
| struggled to make any logical decisions.
|
| I'm dubious. I haven't read the study they take this conclusion
| from, but it does not accord with my experience of the world.
| Your brain shuts down after 40 minutes in a supermarket, really?
| Anyway, it's about supermarkets and not malls, and most of the
| other evidence in this article is about casinos. Thin soup.
| sidewndr46 wrote:
| The article says "Using MRIs to gauge". I've never seen a
| supermarket with an MRI. I have a seen a mall with an MRI, but
| it was more of an opportune space. It didn't face inwards into
| the mall concourse but was on the end.
|
| So in other words, the study probably took people from a mall
| or supermarket after a set amount of time and MRI'd them in
| exchange for $25 or something. I really doubt they measured
| anything relevant here.
| tzs wrote:
| They put people in an MRI and then asked them to decide
| between various discounts and buy-one-get-one-free offers
| like they would face in a supermarket.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Because the experience of shopping in a super market or a
| mall is similar to laying in an MRI making all sorts of
| loud and disturbing noises? How they can even attempt to
| draw these conclusions is just farcical to me
| throwup238 wrote:
| Obligatory dead salmon study link:
| https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/scicurious-
| brain/ignobe...
|
| fMRI studies are largely bullshit in the best of times.
| Using it to study an abstract effect is doubly so.
| verve_rat wrote:
| From your link:
|
| > Some people like to use the salmon study as proof that
| fMRI is woo, but this isn't the case, it's actually a
| study to show the importance of correcting your stats.
| bbarnett wrote:
| It's a mall, not a supermarket. Huge difference. Just look at
| these shoppers, and you'll understand.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgD0DkS7l6A
| ryanjshaw wrote:
| You (and I) are in the minority I think. The only time I browse
| a shop is when looking for a unique gift. Otherwise I go into
| the mall with a shopping list, get what I intended to get and
| leave. I don't think I've ever bought an item on clothing on a
| whim. I also can't stand casinos, I find the manipulative
| atmosphere disturbing.
| DavidWoof wrote:
| If you follow through to the study, they displayed products on
| a screen to people in an MRI scanner, and asked them to
| evaluate the offers they were seeing. Unsurprisingly, after
| about 40 minutes their minds start to wander. Because in some
| warped researchers mind, being in the dark staring at a screen
| for an hour is _exactly_ like being walking through a
| supermarket.
|
| Sociology studies are such a joke.
| effed3 wrote:
| This apply not only the mall, even in a museum, disco, party,
| crowds, time perception will be altered, i suspet the key is in
| the moltitude moving around the person, this can be distracting,
| dimming the simple original task we have entering... random
| observation: mall with sad music sell better than those with
| happy music.. and so on. And this work in large numbers, having
| thousand entering such environments and with a substantial part
| being less or more influenced.
| Solvency wrote:
| This guy's entire post history is incoherent word salad from
| what appears to be a 1992 LLM bot.
| joebob42 wrote:
| Wow thank you for pointing out. It's definitely an
| interesting read
| amenhotep wrote:
| This is such a rude thing to say. He has a very idiosyncratic
| style and makes a number of typos or errors, but his posts
| are quite clearly understandable imo and much more apposite
| and interesting than LLM output.
| Solvency wrote:
| "Interesting article. Maybe taxes on (some)
| capitals/property is (quite) equivalent to expiration.
| Money (value) accumulated that not contribute to
| development (probably) must be taxed, to enter it in the
| development cycle. But made it expiring seems a waste of
| value, decreasing it's value with time maybe is better, to
| avoid it, must be invested in something productive.."
|
| Things (like) this set off (my) suspicion radar.
| mike_hock wrote:
| Sounds more like Engrish to me, but I did get what he wanted
| to say:
|
| - It's not limited to malls and casinos but applies to many
| other businesses
|
| - All the commotion distracts you from the task you
| originally had in mind when you entered the store
|
| - The effect is seen in large numbers of customers, i.e. it's
| a statistical effect.
| nickjj wrote:
| From the article:
|
| _> Retail stores also use sound and music to manipulate the
| environment. A study from the early 1980s showed that slow-tempo
| music led to shoppers moving more slowly through the store and
| spending more money than if fast-tempo music played._
|
| I wonder how big this sample size was. The linked study is locked
| behind a login. The public page indicates maybe it was only 52
| stores and it was done by surveying the managers of the store.
| They even explicitly mention it was a "belief". Too bad the next
| few sentences are behind a login because it sounds like that
| would shed more context.
|
| One of the local grocery stores here will play a bunch of 80s
| hits. They play Eye of the Tiger regularly. That song is one of
| the most purpose driven songs ever. If you had a mission to pick
| up 7 items in your list you can be sure you'll be done in record
| time.
|
| I will say this though, I've absolutely stayed longer in a store
| because I wanted to wait until I heard a specific part of a song
| but that feeling is completely unrelated to buying things.
| sillywalk wrote:
| > One of the local grocery stores here will play a bunch of 80s
| hits. They play Eye of the Tiger regularly. That song is one of
| the most purpose driven songs ever. If you had a mission to
| pick up 7 items in your list you can be sure you'll be done in
| record time.
|
| As somebody who likes to finish their grocery shopping quickly,
| I picture myself in a video montage with that song as the
| soundtrack.
|
| Sidenote: I felt old when I heard Gangsta's Paradise being
| played in a grocery store about 10 years ago.
| Smoosh wrote:
| Been spending most our lives
|
| walking up and down in aisle 5
| koolba wrote:
| > I felt old when I heard Gangsta's Paradise being played in
| a grocery store about 10 years ago.
|
| What store was it?
| sillywalk wrote:
| A Metro (or maybe it was still A&P) in London, Ontario.
| spc476 wrote:
| It won't be long until Nine Inch Nails starts playing at
| nursing homes.
| matham wrote:
| What you're quoting is their literature review, not _their_
| study. Their study was:
|
| >... conducted in a medium-size store operated by a large,
| nationally known chain of supermarkets ... The study covered a
| nine-week period starting on January 28 and ending on March 31,
| 1980...
|
| ... M0=no music, M1=slow, M2=fast music...
|
| ...they measured (1) traffic speed (2) daily gross sales (3)...
|
| ...for (1) they found: traffic flow was significantly slower
| with the slow tempo music (Ml mean = 127.53 seconds) than for
| the faster tempo music (M2 mean = 108.93 seconds) ... Ml
| stimulated an even slower pace than no music (a mean of 127.53
| seconds for Ml compared to a mean of 119.86 for Mo), although
| not statistically significant...
|
| ...for (2) they found: The higher sales volumes were
| consistently associated with the slower tempo musical
| selections while in contrast, the lower sales figures were
| consistently associated with the faster tempo music (MI mean =
| $16,740.23 compared with M2 mean = $12,112.85). This difference
| is significant...
| triceratops wrote:
| According to at least one store manager interviewed in
| _Grocery: The Buying and Selling of Food in America_ , the
| employees at the store are responsible for selecting music
| because they're the ones who have to listen to it all day.
| There isn't a lot of deeper thought going into it.
| bobthepanda wrote:
| it's not quite that simple, because stores play music they
| have licensed. And of course during the holiday season the
| employees are subject to a lot of songs they most likely
| never want to hear again, like the prolific Mariah Carey and
| Wham songs.
| tetris11 wrote:
| N=1, I've definitely tried to work in coffee shops during the
| christmas period that played the same obnoxious christmas songs
| on a loop to drive the customers out.
| drcode wrote:
| You almost never see a clock anywhere
|
| except in places where people aren't allowed to check their
| phones
|
| (such as in schools or certain types of work spaces or a
| therapist office)
| grecy wrote:
| I don't have a phone, and it's always an interesting exercise
| to either try to find a clock, or ask someone for the time.
|
| Thankfully there is no cell reception at our local ski
| mountain, so nobody carries a phone, and clocks are prominent.
| SoftTalker wrote:
| There's a thing called a wristwatch that solves your problem.
| BadHumans wrote:
| Why not just get a watch at that point?
| nfieidnrn wrote:
| not whimsical and quirky enough
| analog31 wrote:
| Anecdotally I wear a watch and the ski mountain is one
| place where it's a lot more convenient to glance at the
| clocks the bottom of the lifts.
| bluGill wrote:
| I hate the feeling of something on my wrist. I used to have
| a pocket watch, but once cell phones became pocket sized I
| switched.
| pquki4 wrote:
| I am pretty certain of two things
|
| (1) many still carry a phone despite not having cell
| reception because it is convenient and many use their phones
| to take pictures (2) many have an Apple watch/other
| smartwatch/dumbwatch on their wrist
| jerlam wrote:
| I would still carry my phone into a place I already know to
| not have reception. I would want to check my messages when
| the phone does get signal and someone may have been trying
| to contact me. Also, it is reasonably secure on my person.
| Leaving it in a car or locker increases the chance it will
| get lost or stolen.
|
| People still carry their phones on airplanes, even though
| we're not even allowed to turn on the cell antenna.
| Although now we have onboard wifi.
| twic wrote:
| And at railway stations, although there are somehow never
| enough clocks at railway stations.
| tsol wrote:
| This article might have made more sense a few decades ago.
| They're no longer considered as expected as they once were
| robomc wrote:
| but also... my local mall, here and where I used to live, both
| have clocks
| schindlabua wrote:
| I was without a phone for a month last year and it made me
| realize that there aren't clocks _anywhere_ anymore. And if they
| are, they 're not working.
| flembat wrote:
| Just as well given that no two clocks in a modern town centre
| ever agree with each other.
| jeffgreco wrote:
| Where _do_ you see clocks?
| biscuits1 wrote:
| You almost always see an abandoned mall in an American suburb.
| biscuits1 wrote:
| "Time is passing, are you?"
|
| You almost always see a Simplex Clock in each American
| classroom. How about we remove them - what would be the effect?
| sgbeal wrote:
| > How about we remove them - what would be the effect?
|
| It would eliminate the only reason kids have to _want_ to be
| able to read an analog clock ;).
| jabroni_salad wrote:
| The mall might be abandoned, but the tj maxx is still thriving
| and the psychological concept is the same.
| sgbeal wrote:
| Where does anyone actually see a clock nowadays? i haven't had a
| clock in my home since i threw out my digital alarm clock when
| moving in 2004.
| bigstrat2003 wrote:
| I see plenty of clocks in people's homes. Libraries too. I
| don't think they're all that uncommon.
| nottorp wrote:
| Hm i have a wall clock in the living room, one in my home
| office and one of those alarm clocks that project the time on
| the ceiling in the bedroom. Mind, the wall clocks are mostly
| decoration, it's only the bedroom one that really gets any use.
|
| Even you probably have a clock on the microwave and the coffee
| machine in the kitchen :)
| WWLink wrote:
| I just got one for my desk. Sure the time is on the corner of
| my computer screen, and on my watch and my phone, but I'm not
| wearing my watch right now and my phones are just chilling on
| my desk. I can see the clock from across the room.
|
| I have a clock in my bedroom, too. It has a cute rainbow light
| frame that serves as a nice little ambient night light. Since
| the plug is behind my bed I unplug it when there's lightning
| nearby, and those nights I end up missing my clock.
| someperson wrote:
| A lot of the tricks described in the article are relevant to
| programmers trying to achieve flow state.
| cafard wrote:
| The mall? These days I almost never see a mall.
|
| And in age when everybody carries a cell phone, how important is
| a clock?
| Kwpolska wrote:
| Ever heard of wristwatches? Or phones that show the current time
| prominently on the lock screen?
| justsomehnguy wrote:
| Since ~2003 I didn't wear a watch, because I always had a _clock_
| with me.
|
| But a decade+ later I wear them again, because the process of
| checking the current time on the wrist watches is one of the
| easiest[0] and less obstructive things. So if I need to track the
| time then I just need to have a vague idea of it in my mind and
| therefore I would just occasionally look it up and have at least
| some understanding of how much time I spent doing something.
| Well, most of the time. Doesn't work good in a bar, but still
| _does_ work.
|
| And for the shops/mall and whatever - just write a goddamn list
| of the items beforehand! Be it a paper list[1] or an app in your
| _mobile clock you always have on you_ , you would check out the
| items in no time and (if you are living not in the US) you would
| even know how much you would spend on it even before you enter
| the shop.
|
| [0] well, partially, because I wear black Axiom, heh
|
| [1] I recently bought a thin pocket sized notebook (not moleskin!
| soft cover) and an automatic pencil. Yes, a decade+ later. The
| most amusing situation was recently when I needed to do some
| explanations, the notebook (14", an electronic one) was on the
| last breath, phone was on the charger quite far away and I just
| casually pull out that paper notebook and a pencil - my visavi
| just burst out laughing. The best part is what yes, the pen on
| paper did make the _explanations_ fast and easy!
| buggeryorkshire wrote:
| I used to live in Cheltenham UK, and one of the malls there had
| this clock as a feature
| https://www.regentarcade.co.uk/LocalInformation
| pricechild wrote:
| I always see someone post that before Telford's:
| https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-frog-clock
| buggeryorkshire wrote:
| Ha, it's the same artist who did both, TiL.
| anotheruser13 wrote:
| Quite a few Japanese malls and department stores have very
| intricate clocks.
| 486sx33 wrote:
| Las Vegas used to be a lot more strict about no cellphones
| (camera phones). As you were not allowed to take photos or video
| inside a casino. At some point the tsunami of every phone has a
| camera, and the Japanese tourists who take pictures and video
| everything sort of took over.
|
| I always figured it was partly to avoid the clocks and keep you
| in the fantasy.
| pizzafeelsright wrote:
| As someone who got thrown out for camera and video it was the
| thoughts of exploiting to cheat.
|
| After the casinos were saturated, the enforcement changed.
| bluGill wrote:
| There have been machines where the random number generator
| was predictable. The solution was petter random numbers.
| whaleofatw2022 wrote:
| It's a weird industry. I only know a little about it from a
| friend that worked for the gaming commission of our
| state...
|
| But fun fact, the code (at least in my state) gets audited
| and one of the things they were doing even 15ish years ago
| was pulling EEPROMs out and running through a machine to
| make sure the final hash is an approved, audited progam
| validated to have fair payout logic.
| pizzafeelsright wrote:
| State controlled - yes. Indian/Native American land or
| International waters? Not State controlled.
| mixmastamyk wrote:
| Concert tickets in the US at least used to feature "NO CAMERAS
| ALLOWED" prominently. I forget exactly when that fell by the
| wayside but believe it was around 2010 or so.
| buildsjets wrote:
| Now it is frequently "No removable lens cameras", which seems
| like a reasonable restriction.
| bobthepanda wrote:
| In ye olden days it was supposed to be preserving the
| ambiance and protecting likeness.
|
| In the modern (American) music industry people have realized
| that
|
| * your average concertgoer phone shot video is too crappy to
| make much of an impact on that
|
| * the whales who spend money on merch/etc at concerts will
| happily pay for a production quality movie of a concert
| regardless of the existence of these crap videos (e.g. recent
| Taylor Swift and Beyonce concert movies)
|
| * at best these videos also drive the desirability of going
| to concerts up, boosting the main way artists make money
|
| In countries like South Korea and Japan they still very much
| focus on protecting the likeness and so cameras are banned
| delduca wrote:
| Same for casinos.
| g-b-r wrote:
| Well anecdotally I did find it harder to find clocks in malls
| than other places, some years ago, at times when e.g. the phone
| was dead (and even in watch stores they're most of the times set
| at random hours)
| xethos wrote:
| > even in watch stores they're most of the times set at random
| hours
|
| I can't imagine the proprietor showing, rather decisively,
| which of his products drift. Especially considering half the
| time, you can't tell how long ago it was set (within the
| current DST season or not), and so how much it drifts per day
| WWLink wrote:
| IDK. I've been in a timex store before where they actually
| DID put the same time on all the watches. Of course
| pranksters would enable the alarm on a lot of those watches
| lol.
| Tade0 wrote:
| I noticed this as well, but to me a mall is less like a casino
| and more like a simulated city - with notable exception of a
| clocktower, which is nowhere to be seen.
|
| Early designs show this in detail, as they were more like
| sections of cities with skylights between the buildings:
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galleria_Umberto_I
| DonHopkins wrote:
| >Retail stores also use sound and music to manipulate the
| environment. A study from the early 1980s showed that slow-tempo
| music led to shoppers moving more slowly through the store and
| spending more money than if fast-tempo music played. (There
| wasn't a huge difference in results between slow-tempo music and
| no music at all.)
|
| >"It's almost mood maintenance," says Theodore Noseworthy, a York
| University business professor who has studied the impacts of
| sound. "They're trying to keep you in this positive state and
| almost in flow [so] that if you're shopping, [you] just stay
| shopping."
|
| Dawn Of The Dead - Mall Music Collection / George A. Romero /
| 1978 / Horror Movie Music
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1NWcGZGD-M
|
| >Unlike any other video on YouTube, this mall music collection
| provides all tracks heard within the Monroeville Mall in George
| Romero's 1978 zombie classic 'Dawn Of The Dead'. Finding the best
| quality for these tracks let alone their full versions wasn't
| easy. After a lot of research and editing, I give you the best I
| could put together. This cliche Muzak really makes the film what
| it is and captures a sense of slapstick comedy very much present
| in the movie. As far as I'm aware, these were real tracks heard
| in the actual mall back in the 1970s. TRACK
| LISTING (HEARD IN ORDER OF APPEARANCE): 1.
| Victorian Vintage 2. Shopping Music #1 3.
| Shopping Music #2 4. African Drums 5. We Are The
| Champions 6. Ragtime Razzamatazz 7. Tango Tango
| 8. Fugarock 9. Restaurant music 10. The Gonk
|
| (The Gonk is by far the zombiest:
| https://youtu.be/t1NWcGZGD-M?t=1051 )
| stephenr wrote:
| I was once onsite at a casino for basically 7 days straight
| (barring trips off site for breakfast and some dinners) while
| working on a client project.
|
| Not having clocks is one thing. Unlike a mall, the casino had
| zero natural light inside. Apparently, seeing that it's dark (or
| light again) outside might be a hint it's time to leave, and
| that's bad for business.
| AlbertCory wrote:
| The author is reaching. Casinos are well-known for this. As for
| shopping malls: they're close to being the answer to a "remember
| when?" question.
|
| Like, "remember when you got letters from people you knew in the
| mail?"
| cookie_monsta wrote:
| Hmm.. where I live (urban Australia) shopping malls have gone
| through much the same process as hardware stores - the big ones
| have muscled out the small ones. But those big ones are heaving
| every time I go, even mid week during the day.
|
| As a side note, my teenagers who are both very astute online
| shoppers will often go to the mall with no intention of buying
| anything, I guess for the same reasons as teenagers have always
| gone to the mall.
|
| It's a little early to be calling the demise of the mall, imo.
| WWLink wrote:
| That's kinda how it works in the US but the big malls are
| very quiet in the middle of the workday
| AlbertCory wrote:
| not dead, but still not totally great:
|
| https://www.resonai.com/blog/mall-foot-traffic
| standardUser wrote:
| I have a cool clock I was going to put up in my apartment, but I
| decided against it because I sometimes have late night parties
| and the presence of a clock seems like a buzzkill for many of
| these same reasons. In fact, I'd even say that having fun and not
| knowing/caring what time it is go hand-in-hand. And anytime I
| need to pay close attention to the time is almost certainly a
| stressful time, not a fun one.
|
| As far as shopping - a sometimes tedious chore - I welcome
| whatever social engineering they can muster to make it a more
| automatic experience. Same with casinos. I'm not there to be
| level-headed and use good judgement. I'm there to be joyfully
| manipulated.
| twic wrote:
| The one kind of late-night party where you absolutely want a
| clock is a new year's eve party!
|
| Some friends of mine often host such a party. They have an
| antique grandfather clock, which is ideal for this purpose.
| Except it's in poor shape, and usually stopped. So now a
| traditional element of the party is one of them standing on the
| arm of a sofa wrangling the clock at a few minutes to midnight,
| desperately trying to unstop the flow of time before we run
| out.
| boringuser2 wrote:
| I want to know more about your demographic profile.
|
| The concept of having frequent time-ambivalent late night
| parties as an adult with a job is absurd to me.
|
| Do you have a trust-fund? Are you in your 20s?
| infradig wrote:
| Welcome to the Gruen transfer.
| jiveturkey wrote:
| tvOS hasn't had a clock until the most recent major release.
| rocky1138 wrote:
| From the article:
|
| > No other industry builds a world designed to maintain a
| customer's fantasy so that they continue to partake in an
| activity that, in the long run, advantages the house.
|
| Videogames
| torcete wrote:
| I believe what the article explains is the reason why a plane
| ticket with a stopover is cheaper than a direct flight.
|
| Airport are big shopping centres with captive and bored
| clientele. Even more, I find some airports (e.g. Gatwick in the
| UK) extremely oppressive. No natural light, closed space and the
| only way to escape is to expend money eating/drinking/shopping.
| macinjosh wrote:
| They do have stores full of watches in most malls though.
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