[HN Gopher] FDA stands against using smartwatches to monitor blo...
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       FDA stands against using smartwatches to monitor blood glucose
        
       Author : alwillis
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2024-02-23 19:56 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | advisedwang wrote:
       | The agency that approves medical devices warns people with
       | serious medical conditions that using devices that haven't passed
       | their standards is a risk. What a shocker.
       | 
       | As the article says, tech companies have been able to get FDA
       | approval for the ECGs on smart watches. Tech companies should do
       | the same for any other medical features they want to sell.
       | 
       | I am glad to have stringent standards that are upheld and
       | enforced.
        
         | bluGill wrote:
         | Approved for what? There is a difference between approved for
         | people with and people without diabetes. If you have diabetes
         | you may want this, but if it isn't very accurate it isn't going
         | to do what you want. If you don't have diabetes though this
         | could be a useful thing sitting on your watch, ready to give an
         | alarm that you need to see a doctor because things are looking
         | bad - people often go diagnosed with mild diabetes for a long
         | time (depending on when their next physical is) and starting
         | treatment for those people sooner can improve long term quality
         | of life. Or if you do have diabetes maybe this can sometimes
         | say do an extra blood sugar test at a time when normally you
         | wouldn't (so long as there are not too many false positives)
        
           | lokar wrote:
           | It would be useful and probably safe for a diabetic that is
           | not using insulin. Even pre diabetics, just understand how
           | your blood sugar reacts to various foods and activities is
           | really helpful for people trying to manage the disease.
        
       | JoeAltmaier wrote:
       | Blood glucose is hard. Witness Theranos' attempt to do blook
       | analysis without sufficient samples.
       | 
       | It apparently can be done from surface contact, with a special
       | patch that measure interstitial epidermal fluid. Do these watches
       | have that?
        
         | stop50 wrote:
         | No, they want to use light refraction to measure the glucose
         | level.
        
       | m463 wrote:
       | I'm glad they are holding their ground.
       | 
       | Also, I remember reading "the glucose revolution" and I found it
       | interesting that blood glucose is only part of the picture. We
       | currently don't measure fructose level, and that might have
       | effects separate from blood glucose levels.
       | 
       | Hopefully folks will go back to the drawing board and either
       | lower the cost of the other continuous measuring devices, or move
       | current tech onwards to acceptable accuracy.
        
       | spandrew wrote:
       | The title is more alarming than the substance of the article.
       | Apple is investing in a novel technology that _may_ be able to
       | measure technology using light waves, but the article says it 's
       | still in early stages and there's no rush to market with it.
       | 
       | Given Apple's history with ECG and other Apple Watch, FDA
       | approved tech there's no nefarious scheme to deliver anything
       | that doesn't pass approvals.
        
       | TeeMassive wrote:
       | Imagine we could have a near real time effect of what we eat and
       | then we discover that high fructose products are _really really_
       | bad.
       | 
       | Also imagine that the corporations that produce those products
       | are the worse when it comes to corruption through lobbying.
        
         | qup wrote:
         | I don't know what _really really bad_ means to you, but we can
         | look around and see people who have eaten fructose their whole
         | lives to no obvious effect. Almost every person I see.
         | 
         | So it's not going to meet my personal definition of _really
         | really bad_.
         | 
         | It's already clear and well known that it's bad.
        
           | grecy wrote:
           | Cancer rates will soon be over 50%, and obesity and heart
           | disease have never been higher.
        
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