[HN Gopher] My productivity app is a never-ending .txt file (2022)
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       My productivity app is a never-ending .txt file (2022)
        
       Author : yarapavan
       Score  : 270 points
       Date   : 2024-02-19 18:14 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | gumby wrote:
       | > Every night before I go to bed, I take all the items on my
       | calendar for the next day and append it to the end of the text
       | file as a daily todo list, so I know exactly what I'm doing when
       | I wake up. T
       | 
       | This is a key win. Most of the rest he describes is support (also
       | cruicial). But setting up your day the night before is amazingly
       | powerful. Many of the things I plan for the day I actually
       | schedule into my calendar (12:30-13:00 read and respond to those
       | three unanswered messages from Jane).
        
         | blowski wrote:
         | This is the challenge of the modern manager, especially in
         | remote jobs. You turn on the computer with a plan, and then 345
         | Slack messages and 10 Zoom meetings later, you consider working
         | on it. As an EM, I really miss that state of flow and
         | productivity.
         | 
         | I'm whinging because I see other managers that have nailed this
         | so much better than me and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
        
           | ambicapter wrote:
           | Can you get started on the things you need to do before
           | attending to those Slack messages?
        
           | gumby wrote:
           | I address it with asynchrony:
           | 
           | I look at my mail when I get up and normally at three other
           | fixed times.
           | 
           | Sometimes there's something complicated going on via mail and
           | I have to be more responsive. Today I'm trying to debug
           | something with a prospective partner who is in Japan
           | (normally in NYC) so I check for messages from them between
           | tasks. But otherwise it's systolic.
           | 
           | I also run a lot of automation over my mail most of which
           | causes me not to see as much.
           | 
           | For slack, we have a culture that it's either transient
           | (doesn't matter what someone wrote yesterday) or, depending
           | on channel, archival ("here's the documents from partner P")
           | which means you search for it but don't otherwise follow in
           | real time. We're relatively hardcore about channels so that
           | you can ignore ones that aren't germane to you. So I skim
           | them in the same times I check mail.
           | 
           | Zoom meetings...I have the luxury of mostly only attending
           | meetings with agenda and objectives published ahead of time.
           | We try to do as much as possible asynchronously though we
           | have one outside partner who doesn't do any homework and
           | tries to use meetings to get work done rather than just use
           | them for things that can't be handled asynchronously.
           | 
           | And also: certain topics are only handled on certain days,
           | e.g. patent (bletch) related stuff I only work on tuesdays
           | and fridays. Otherwise it will just sit in my inbox or
           | wherever.
        
       | snarfy wrote:
       | I noticed your format is pretty close to markdown, which is
       | itself just ascii. Might as well go all the way.
        
       | BasilPH wrote:
       | I'm doing something similar with Obsidian daily notes[^1]. I also
       | have a weekly note that I use to plan the next week.
       | 
       | Similar to how the author talks about scheduling their next day
       | the evening before, I've started planning the big tasks for next
       | on Friday afternoon, as this gives me momentum on Monday morning.
       | 
       | Related: I've found the 3/3/3 technique from Oliver Burkeman[^2]
       | and the concept of open and closed lists to be a great complement
       | for this type of organization. It hits the sweet-spot of
       | flexibility and consistency for me.
       | 
       | [^1]: https://help.obsidian.md/Plugins/Daily+notes
       | 
       | [^2]: https://ckarchive.com/b/e5uph7hx43mn
        
         | andygeorge wrote:
         | +1 for Obsidian, it's invaluable for my day-to-day AND long-
         | term stuff
        
         | zeta0134 wrote:
         | Happy Obsidian user here. I love that the "vault" concept it
         | uses is literally just a folder of markdown files, meaning I'm
         | still in full control of my data. I don't use their proprietary
         | sync service, I just drop it into a regular folder and let
         | syncthing take care of cloning it to every device I own and a
         | few extras for backup.
         | 
         | Obsidian itself has got to be the nicest markdown editor I have
         | ever used, hands down. It gets so many of the little details
         | absolutely right, down to tiny things like a quick shortcut to
         | turn a list item into a checkbox (Ctrl+L) and then into a
         | checked box (Ctrl+L again), without needing to even think about
         | the underlying syntax. But you totally can, if you need that
         | control. It's great.
        
           | vunderba wrote:
           | Vaults are great. I compartmentalize all notes surrounding
           | each consulting job as a self-contained folder/vault - that
           | way I only have to search relevant information but still have
           | access to it at a later time if I want to open that vault
           | again.
        
         | blackhaj7 wrote:
         | I use Obsidian but it is unbearably slow upon when opening the
         | app for me, to the point where I want to move away.
         | 
         | It's also dare-I-say-it too customizable for me. I just want it
         | to look nice and do standard notes stuff without having to
         | spend hours tinkering.
         | 
         | The only thing keeping me is that it is just markdown. I don't
         | like the idea of being locked in with the proprietary formats
         | of other apps
        
           | Al-Khwarizmi wrote:
           | Curious, I have starting using Obsidian recently and one of
           | the things that I love about it is that it's lightning fast
           | on my systems, including startup time. Much snappier than
           | other note-taking programs I've used, and than 95% of the
           | programs altogether (only the likes of Notepad are faster).
           | 
           | Maybe it's because I don't have many notes yet and it becomes
           | a behemoth if the vault gets too big?
        
             | machomaster wrote:
             | Usually the slowness of Obsidian is caused by plugins.
             | 
             | Try to have 50+ plugins and you will feel the slowness even
             | in a small vault.
        
               | realfeel78 wrote:
               | What hardware/OS are you using? I have a shitload of
               | plugins but it's lightning fast for me on Mac.
        
           | realfeel78 wrote:
           | Slow on what hardware/OS? It's instantaneous for me on Mac,
           | but can be painfully clunky on iPhone.
        
         | 331c8c71 wrote:
         | I plan exclusively on paper despite using Obsidian quite
         | extensively for taking notes. I also do weekly and daily
         | planning.
         | 
         | Initially I tried to plan on Obsidian as well but it didn't
         | work for me. Writing on paper is slow and not only it calms me
         | down but also directly incentivizes me to state my tasks and
         | goals concisely. Similarly, the limited space on a planning
         | page helps me to be realistic in terms of things I set to
         | accomplish.
        
           | realfeel78 wrote:
           | Paper often wins for a lot of things.
        
             | fuzztester wrote:
             | Taking hard-copy printouts of code to study it for bugs,
             | design or code review is one area some people I know use it
             | for.
             | 
             | Edit: I guess even for non-code text files, though I
             | haven't used it for that purpose myself, yet. Bet many
             | authors do.
        
       | tarr11 wrote:
       | OP uses their calendar as a supplement for their the todo file.
       | There is a lot of functionality implied in that decision:
       | 
       | - calendars have mobile apps which enable quick and precise entry
       | 
       | - calendars understand time spans
       | 
       | - calendars have many options to display events
       | 
       | - calendars have cloud syncing
       | 
       | - calendars are backed by a queryable data store
       | 
       | Not saying using a text file is good or bad, but I think a more
       | accurate title would be "my productivity app is a never ending
       | txt file and a calendar app"
        
         | joemi wrote:
         | Indeed. The calendar app really is doing the heavy lifting in
         | their case, not the txt file.
         | 
         | I can kind of understand the author not really registering just
         | how much the calendar app does for their organization, since
         | calendar apps are so ubiquitous.
        
       | ukuina wrote:
       | [2022]
        
       | kredd wrote:
       | I actually sent this to my friend as he always thought I'm crazy
       | for doing this. Mine one is a bit simpler though, just a big .txt
       | file with TODO and DONE sections. Some of TODOs just have dates
       | next to them if they're urgent, otherwise it's just it's just a
       | simple list.
       | 
       | That being said, I do use my calendar-equivalent app on my phone
       | for very time-sensitive stuff, just in case.
        
       | nickthegreek wrote:
       | Previous: My productivity app for the past 12 years has been a
       | single .txt file (2020) (December 23, 2021 -- 523 points, 202
       | comments)
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29661167
        
       | jcoletti wrote:
       | Interesting. I've been using Things (similar to Apple Reminders)
       | for 10+ years, which I thought was really minimal, but a .txt is
       | about as barebones as you can get. Makes me want to give it a
       | whirl. Curious about the use of Remote Desktop with a mobile
       | device. Being an iPhone user, I'd prefer putting it in iCloud
       | Drive or something more easily accessible natively.
        
       | jckahn wrote:
       | This really is the way. Just one long append-only dump of all
       | pertinent information. It's the perfect complement to what's in
       | my head because I know where everything is!
        
       | TOGoS wrote:
       | I use a format[1] that's _slightly_ more structured, in that
       | files are divided into explicit entries with headers to indicate
       | whatever metadata I want, and I also use this same format for
       | storing other information (metadata about my music[2], workshop
       | projects, orders, whatever).
       | 
       | Other than that, same, bro.
       | 
       | [1] https://github.com/TOGoS/TEF
       | 
       | [2] https://www.nuke24.net/music/music.txt
        
       | ivalm wrote:
       | This is how I run all my one-on-ones, just an append only list
       | where every meeting just gets appended on top of another with a
       | date. If there are kaban tasks/external documents/etc that are
       | relevant they still get linked into this page. It very amazing to
       | see what we're working on now, a week ago, a month ago, etc. And
       | as a collaborative free-form document it gives both the manager
       | and their report the ability to craft a story of what's happening
       | (and check in on progress in a way that dashboards fail to
       | represent correctly!).
        
       | devmor wrote:
       | I just use a weekly planner. I have a nice one without pre-
       | printed dates made by Moleskein.
       | 
       | I find the act of writing things down with a pen helps me
       | remember them better as well.
        
       | walteweiss wrote:
       | Make it .org file and you're in a different league instantly.
        
         | kingkongjaffa wrote:
         | I've maintained a single log.org file for 5 years now and it's
         | been great!
        
       | due-rr wrote:
       | I love the idea. Do you think he uses Remote Desktop from his
       | phone? Or does he only use a desktop or a laptop.
        
       | intrasight wrote:
       | I've been doing this long enough now (decades) that some of my
       | .txt files (I have one per client/project) are in the size range
       | of 20mb.
        
         | ta1243 wrote:
         | That's about 2.5-3 million words, 5 times the length of Lord of
         | the rings.
        
           | kjkjadksj wrote:
           | I wonder what astronomical figure they've billed the client
           | just to spend that much time on the notetaking part of this
           | project
        
             | intrasight wrote:
             | What astronomical figure does a law firm bill for all their
             | words.
        
           | intrasight wrote:
           | Lots of code and data ends up in my .txt files. Also I just
           | checked actual stats. Only three client/project files are
           | over 10MB. Most are in the 2-4MB range.
        
       | superkuh wrote:
       | Same. Ever since I had my proprietary rich text note taking
       | application/database corrupt and become inaccessible in the early
       | 2000s I've used a single notes.txt file with filepaths for noting
       | images and other rich media. It is super simple to search within;
       | everything is in one place. And it'll never become corrupted or
       | inaccessible.
        
       | Ecoste wrote:
       | Now do an article on how to get the discipline to keep this
       | going.
        
         | dudinax wrote:
         | As an undisciplined person who nevertheless does something
         | similar, elimination of the fear of forgetting something is
         | enough motivation.
        
       | ramses0 wrote:
       | I've had pretty decent luck with `todo.txt` style tracking, but
       | also tend to run into issues with tasks or notes "going stale" so
       | came up with this system. `today` basically opens
       | `~/Desktop/$YYYY_MM_DD-todo.txt`, but it'll start you off with a
       | copy of the most recent (previous) file.
       | 
       | This lets me have "durable" files (I can grep for pretty much
       | anything and get a date-specific hit for it, similar to doing a
       | `git log -S`), and also lets me declare "task-bankruptcy" without
       | any worry (I can always "rewind" to any particular point in
       | time).
       | 
       | The addition of `report` (aka: `diff $YESTERDAY $TODAY`) is
       | helpful to see what I've added/removed. Yeah, there's better ways
       | to do things, but the degenerate simplicity of `open
       | ~/Desktop/todo.txt` is fantastic. Having the equivalent of `open
       | ~/Desktop/$TODAY.txt` (with no ceremony) has been very valuable
       | to me!                  $ cat ~/bin/today        #!/bin/bash
       | TODO_HOME="$HOME/Desktop"        TODAY="$( date "+%Y-%m-%d" )"
       | TODAY_FILE="$TODO_HOME/todo-$TODAY-todo.txt"
       | PREVIOUS_FILE="$( ~/bin/previous )"        if [[ ! -f
       | "$TODAY_FILE" ]]; then          cp "$PREVIOUS_FILE" "$TODAY_FILE"
       | fi        report "$TODAY_FILE"        printf "Press Enter to
       | Continue, Ctrl-C to exit." && read -r PROMPT        open
       | "$TODAY_FILE"        echo "$TODAY"             $ cat
       | ~/bin/previous        #!/bin/bash
       | TODO_HOME="$HOME/Desktop/"        TODAYS_DATE="$( date
       | "+%Y-%m-%d" )"        MOST_RECENT="$( ls
       | "$TODO_HOME"/todo-*-todo.txt | sed 's/^.*todo-//g' | sed
       | 's/-todo.txt//g' ; echo "$TODAYS_DATE" | sort )"
       | PREVIOUS="$( echo "$MOST_RECENT" | awk -- "BEGIN { YET=0 }
       | /^$TODAYS_DATE/ { YET=1 } { if ( !YET ) PREV=\$0 } END { print(
       | PREV ) }" )"        PREVIOUS_FILE="$( echo
       | "$TODO_HOME/todo-$PREVIOUS-todo.txt" )"        echo "$( realpath
       | "$PREVIOUS_FILE" )"             $ cat ~/bin/report
       | #!/bin/bash        TODO_HOME="$HOME/Desktop"
       | TODAY_FILE="$TODO_HOME/todo-$( date "+%Y-%m-%d" )-todo.txt"
       | PREVIOUS_FILE="$( ~/bin/previous )"        echo
       | "${PREVIOUS_FILE}...${TODAY_FILE}"        diff -U0
       | "$PREVIOUS_FILE" "$TODAY_FILE" | grep -v ^@@
        
         | FredPret wrote:
         | This is brilliant - thanks for the great idea
        
         | nickjj wrote:
         | I've been doing something similar for 20+ years at:
         | https://github.com/nickjj/notes                   - Running
         | `notes` will open this month's notes for YYYY_MM.txt in your
         | default $EDITOR         - Running `notes hello world` will
         | append `hello world` to YYYY_MM.txt         - Running `$stdout
         | | notes` will append another program's output to YYYY_MM.txt
         | (useful for piping your clipboard)
         | 
         | I find this offers the least amount of resistance for quickly
         | adding notes. Every method of input is 2 seconds away on the
         | terminal and grep makes things searchable enough where I can
         | still pull things out from files 5-10 years ago without issues.
         | 
         | I tried YYYY_MM_DD.txt for a while but I found it to be too
         | fragmented. Oftentimes I want to look at a few day's worth of
         | notes at a glance.
        
           | emadda wrote:
           | You might want to try iso week numbers. Every week starts on
           | Monday and is always 7 days.
           | 
           | Gives you quite a granular time reference but not too fine
           | like days.
        
       | eschneider wrote:
       | Yeah, I use a similar text file journaling system to this and
       | have for years. Let's me know what I need to work on every day,
       | let's me know exactly where I left of debugging, etc, makes
       | status reports a snap, and makes figuring out what I did all year
       | at review time simple.
       | 
       | Would recommend.
        
       | Gbox4 wrote:
       | I've been using what is essentially a single sticky note (Raycast
       | floating notes feature) for a year now and it works great. I put
       | todos, meeting notes, ideas, and everything else in there with
       | zero organization. When I want to remember stuff I read it. When
       | I finish stuff I delete it. Has worked for me better than Notion,
       | Obsidian, Reminders, Tick Tick, etc.
       | 
       | I've found that for productivity tools, there is an inverse
       | correlation between time it takes to setup and how effective it
       | is.
        
         | realfeel78 wrote:
         | You get it.
        
         | al_borland wrote:
         | >I finish stuff I delete it.
         | 
         | I run into the issue where I'm told to start new things all the
         | time, then things don't get finished, because of other new
         | things that "need" to start. And no one ever seems to care than
         | nothing actually gets done... but someday they might. So the
         | list of what I need to look through keeps growing with nothing
         | to keep it in check.
        
       | zwieback wrote:
       | Takeaway: if you're already highly organized and disciplined a
       | simple tool is all you need
        
         | whartung wrote:
         | I don't see any tool working if you're not disciplined.
         | Organization is just a facet of that.
        
         | wyre wrote:
         | I'm not highly organized or disciplined and simple tools still
         | work better, but a single txt file is too simple. I've had good
         | luck using Things 3 as an easy and flexible to-do list for
         | tasks I will forget and I've been using Obsidian as a tool for
         | everything else.
         | 
         | My takeaway is that the effectiveness of organizational tools
         | scales with discipline and the simplicity of the tool removes
         | organizational friction.
        
         | jimbokun wrote:
         | I see the causation in the other direction:
         | 
         | a simple tool is more likely to help you get organized and stay
         | disciplined, due to the low activation energy to get started
         | and keep using it.
         | 
         | Otherwise, there is a great temptation to futz around with your
         | organization tools instead of making plans and getting things
         | done.
        
       | AceJohnny2 wrote:
       | Obligatory reference to Emacs Org-Mode [1].
       | 
       | Author's approach is basically Org-Mode with fewer helpers.
       | 
       | Org-mode's power is that, at core, it's just a text file, with
       | gradual augmentation.
       | 
       | Then again, Org-Mode is a tool you must install, accessible
       | through a limited list of clients (Emacs originally, but also
       | VSCode), and the power of OP's approach is that _it requires no
       | external tools_.
       | 
       | [1] https://orgmode.org
        
         | Zambyte wrote:
         | I found the hierarchy imposed by Org was more friction for me
         | than it was worth. Adding Org Roam into the mix and making many
         | bite sized files in a directory, and hyperlinking them together
         | has proven to be incredibly useful to me. Notes fall out of my
         | brain and are instantly discoverable. I often find useful notes
         | that I completely forgot that I wrote.
        
         | Lyngbakr wrote:
         | A nice thing about Org-Mode is that you can keep an active todo
         | list in one file for daily tasks and then at the end of the day
         | send all done items to an archive file (C-c C-x C-a). That way,
         | you still have all your tasks in a searchable format if you
         | ever need to go back to them, but the active file -- which you
         | open each day -- is small and snappy.
        
           | erik_seaberg wrote:
           | There's also org-journal, where a global keybind (I use the
           | recommended C-c C-j) adds an empty timestamped item to a
           | dated file.
        
       | ivanjermakov wrote:
       | I ended up using plain text files because it's the most efficient
       | editing experience with my editor.
       | 
       | Although I have multiple files for different things: work
       | reminders, abstract ideas, bookmarks, etc.
       | 
       | For time sensitive events I use stock calendar app on my phone
       | because it's the only thing I need notifications for (except
       | email).
        
       | bloopernova wrote:
       | Mine is: Orgzly Reloaded syncing to a webdav share, which is
       | mounted at ~/Org so it can be opened by Emacs.
       | 
       | For shared shopping lists, my wife and I use the OurGroceries
       | Android app and website. It's simple and just works.
        
       | rocky1138 wrote:
       | I do this as well, except I tend to stick to markdown for
       | formatting. This file is routinely committed to git.
        
       | jameschensmith wrote:
       | > So my daily routine looks like
       | 
       | > [...]
       | 
       | > 5. copy the next day's calendar items to the bottom of the text
       | file
       | 
       | Interesting. For a file with 51,690 lines at the time this post
       | was created, I'm curious why the file is not ordered with the
       | most recent day at the top of the file.
        
         | MathMonkeyMan wrote:
         | All that text is heavy to push out of the way when you insert a
         | new line break.
         | 
         | Also, the feeling of accomplishment as the job's entire history
         | whizzes by when you press ctrl+end each morning.
        
       | abulman wrote:
       | I'm also using Obsidian daily notes, with all un-actioned items
       | shown on a page with a dataview API[^1]:
       | ```dataview         TASK FROM "VaultName/Journal" WHERE
       | !completed         ```
       | 
       | Since at least 2012 I've also been using a text file format from
       | http://todotxt.org/ and more recently I wrote a program that
       | takes a crontab-like list[^2] to pre-generate entries on a daily,
       | by-day-name (every Sunday for example), and I also pull in a list
       | of holidays from gov.uk, so they are also populated.
       | 
       | [^1]: https://github.com/blacksmithgu/obsidian-dataview
       | 
       | [^2]: https://github.com/alister/alister-
       | tools/blob/main/.todo.cro...
        
       | cptaj wrote:
       | I use notepad++ with 2 columns of files and around 40 tabs open.
        
       | js2 wrote:
       | Everything old is new again:
       | 
       | John Carmack's .plan1:
       | 
       | https://garbagecollected.org/2017/10/24/the-carmack-plan/
       | 
       | Archive:
       | 
       | https://github.com/ESWAT/john-carmack-plan-archive
       | 
       | 1 https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc742
        
       | rabbitofdeath wrote:
       | I also use a simple text file, but for sake of context switching
       | - I have one file for one topic - account x has a file, account y
       | has a file, topic z has a file and everything related to it goes
       | in. This is all now curated in my Obsidian vault that is synced
       | via the fantastic Git plugin.
        
       | ravishi wrote:
       | I use a similar system, but I duplicate and rename the file at
       | the start of each day. Then I remove stuff that got done the
       | previous day. Or stuff that is old and not relevant anymore.
       | 
       | The system has evolved over the years. The greatest thing about
       | it is how flexible it is. When faced with new requirements (new
       | projects, job change, etc) I can just start taking notes in a
       | different way and see if it sticks.
       | 
       | I also commit it to git every 30 minutes using a cron script. Its
       | awesome.
        
         | jimbokun wrote:
         | I've landed on a similar process, but one file per sprint
         | instead of one file per day.
         | 
         | I take the last sprint's file, save a copy for the new sprint,
         | summarize what got done to report in sprint meeting, then add
         | the tasks for the new sprint to present at the meeting as well.
         | 
         | Still have JIRA tickets to track tasks in a more formal way.
         | But the text file is far more flexible and easier to quickly
         | edit and view everything at a glance, as well as including
         | things that don't fit cleanly in a ticket.
        
         | drewzero1 wrote:
         | I don't usually take the time to write out a daily to-do list,
         | but I do keep one for long-term projects that I tend to lose
         | track of. Each line is a task and at the beginning of the line
         | is the date it was initiated/requested. It's semi-structured
         | but doesn't take any longer than typing out a note.
         | 
         | At the beginning of the month I duplicate the file and rename
         | it for the new month, then I clean out just like you do.
         | 
         | I've tried apps, I've tried tracking systems, and this seems to
         | work best for me for now. I can keep it open all the time in a
         | tab of my text editor which I would have open anyway and it
         | backs up with the rest of my files.
        
         | JordiGarcL wrote:
         | Doing the exact same thing using Obsidian and the obsidian-git
         | plugin, which allows for automatic git push at a given
         | interval. Works very well and it's very convenient to use.
        
         | AlecSchueler wrote:
         | What are the benefits of keeping it in git? Are the commit
         | messages useful?
         | 
         | Not trying to knock the idea, I just can't imagine branching or
         | reverting or being curious about the history of a to-do list.
         | Maybe it could be cool for statistics over time.
         | 
         | But I'm really curious to hear how you're using it!
        
           | xanathar wrote:
           | I have a similar setup as far as git is concerned - I use it
           | to push a backup of my Joplin notes (note that I don't sync
           | multiple Joplins, just backup the current one).
           | 
           | Pros: pushes only the differences, keeps history, can be
           | rolled back, works offline (push fails but commit works),
           | offers a time log of changes.
           | 
           | Commit messages are not needed really - the timestamp is
           | enough and rolling back is only for exceptional events (e.g.
           | accidentally deleting important stuff, etc.).
        
             | medstrom wrote:
             | It can also save you when you try a different sync
             | solution, and you see in git status that it messed up the
             | sync.
        
       | web3-is-a-scam wrote:
       | My productivity app is just todo.txt in one drive using
       | _specificaly_ notepad.exe.
       | 
       | You put .LOG at the top of the new file with a return. Save and
       | close the file.
       | 
       | Every time you reopen the file, the timestamp is append to the
       | file. Add your notes, save, exit notepad. Open it again when you
       | need to update, rinse and repeat.
       | 
       | Nothing I've ever tried has been more effective than just keeping
       | this endless file.
        
         | royjacobs wrote:
         | Oh wow, I didn't realize notepad had that feature. Awesome!
        
           | abhinavk wrote:
           | I cannot confirm right now but Notepad was rewritten for
           | Win11. It might have lost that feature.
        
             | gl-prod wrote:
             | It still working, I just tested on Windows 11 and Notepad.
        
             | Kokouane wrote:
             | Just tested. Both the F5 and .LOG technique work on Windows
             | 11 notepad.exe
        
           | machomaster wrote:
           | You can always use Autokey/autohotkey to get this
           | functionality in any software you may want.
        
           | fuzztester wrote:
           | Metapad is a nice replacement for Notepad, with a few extra
           | useful features, but don't know if it has the feature you
           | refer to. Likely not, because work in it stopped a while ago.
           | But it is still available. I had used it for some years.
           | Still may in future.
           | 
           | https://liquidninja.com/metapad/
        
         | allanrbo wrote:
         | You can also insert a timestamp in notepad.exe simply by
         | pressing F5. (At least it used to be like this - haven't tried
         | on newest versions of Windows).
        
       | akira2501 wrote:
       | Old man checking in. I use the TOPS Steno Pad and PaperMate Gel
       | Ink pens. Light weight, damage resistant, and no power required.
       | 
       | Still works a treat. There's something about writing information
       | down on paper that makes it store in my memory differently. I
       | read volumes of digital text on my monitor every day, but I write
       | very little into the steno book, so almost everything I write
       | gets stored very deeply in my memory and is very easy to recall
       | even when I don't have the original.
        
         | MathMonkeyMan wrote:
         | I sketch all of my ideas on yellow legal pads for the same
         | reason. It's my playground. Mostly diagrams and code snippets.
         | Playing around with the names of things.
         | 
         | For my "TODO/notes," though, I still use a plain text file in
         | gedit. No timestamps, no nothing. When I want to remember how
         | to build Envoy with bazelisk, I search for "bazelisk" and see
         | the most recent, oldest, and all intermediate attempts with my
         | notes (e.g. "runs out of memory, but if you're not building the
         | tests, you can get away with 6 cores"). I've gotten into the
         | habit of "tagging" potentially useful information with words
         | that I might search for later.
         | 
         | Need to save an error message for possible later reference?
         | notes.txt. Meeting notes? notes.txt. TODO? notes.txt. Rough
         | draft of slack message? notes.txt. You get the idea.
        
       | dandy23 wrote:
       | I used to track every project in its own text file. Every task
       | and a description was in this file. It was great, but got a bit
       | messy. So now I use EasyOrg [1] where I also track each project's
       | todos in its own text file, but now with time scheduling, search
       | by time, links to other tasks in the file etc.
       | 
       | [1] https://easyorgmode.com
        
       | chrsw wrote:
       | I thought I was the only one that did this
        
       | wim wrote:
       | It's something I also tried to do for a while, just by using
       | VSCode and a bunch of text files. I really like the lightweight-
       | ness of just being able to edit as if it's text, but wanted to
       | have for tasks what VSCode has for code: command palettes,
       | "syntax highlighting", jump to "references" (like dates) and an
       | editor which understands structure (like an outliner, but without
       | all the awkward text selection issues).
       | 
       | Anyway all of that led us to try and build a dedicated "IDE", but
       | for tasks/notes and multiplayer support [1]. Hopefully it's going
       | to be useful for others working from their todo.txt/thoughts.txt!
       | 
       | [1] https://thymer.com
        
       | j45 wrote:
       | Lists in text files work great. So unbelievably great.
       | 
       | I go back to them often, and some things can outgrow them
       | completely when you want to:
       | 
       | - Reduce the work between my list and collaborating with others
       | (a shared list) - First class convenient experience on all my
       | devices is useful - Notes synced automatically can go a long way.
       | - When projects grow, and there's more details to manage, along
       | with updates, than not.
       | 
       | Has anyone used the text file appoach that can be compatible with
       | LogSeq/Obsidian?
       | 
       | I'm not sure why, but this time using mainly LogSeq has clicked.
       | I do run it inside of an Obsidian Vault just in case... but
       | haven't used Obsidian much. I really like the feel of per line
       | item like a text file that logseq provides. There are tradeoffs
       | too though.
       | 
       | I think I might be enjoying it because it's plaintext, with a
       | little bit more metadata, when/if I want it.
       | 
       | The hashtags I invent that only I know are almost an unfair
       | advantage for pulling up all the meetings with a person, or a
       | topic, etc.
        
       | yard2010 wrote:
       | > 4pm Rihanna talk (368 CIT) 5pm 1:1 with Beyonce #phdadvisee
       | 
       | Sounds like a nice day.
        
       | mightybyte wrote:
       | I also use plain text files for a lot of my personal
       | organization. My system isn't quite like what OP describes, but
       | it has some things in common. Some of my files are also
       | structured by date as a never-ending journal. This isn't for a
       | todo list, it's for a journal of things I encounter that I'd like
       | to be able to find again and that I don't want to accumulate as
       | clutter elsewhere...i.e. in browser tabs, etc. Sometimes it's a
       | web link, or maybe something I learned somewhere, something
       | someone told me, etc. I include notes whatever words / strings I
       | think I might use if I want to find this particular thing later.
       | I use org mode and make each date be a top-level bullet so I can
       | nicely leverage powerful text search tools like ripgrep, regular
       | expressions, etc.
       | 
       | I don't find it useful to force everything into a single file.
       | Instead, I'll organize these text files somewhere inside a
       | directory structure that I can recursively grep. Unlike the OP I
       | do use mutable TODO lists to track high level lists of things
       | that I want to continue to spend mental energy on, but I do like
       | the chronological list of done things and I might think about
       | adding something like that or maybe augmenting the chronological
       | notes file I already have.
       | 
       | I do depart from the world of plain text for keeping track of
       | larger amounts of information such as good papers I encounter,
       | complete blog posts that I might want to refer back to, etc. For
       | this I use the fantastic DEVONthink tool. It's got a large array
       | of powerful features including automatic OCR and indexing of
       | images and an excellent search feature, but the one that I use
       | the most is its ability to make a "web archive" from a link. This
       | downloads all of a web page's resources and stores them in the
       | database locally, making it really easy to refer back to things
       | that I've seen before regardless of whether I have internet
       | access or not, whether the website is still around, etc.
        
       | xandrius wrote:
       | Joplin + Dropbox + Markdown = free form, full control over data,
       | checkboxes (if needed), mobile/desktop support - top
        
       | hu3 wrote:
       | I use https://joplinapp.org because it allows for pasting images
       | and files.
       | 
       | Supports markdown.
       | 
       | Has easy sync and also mobile and desktop apps.
       | 
       | Free and open source.
        
         | vunderba wrote:
         | Joplin is good but I absolutely hate the way that they
         | structure your notes.
         | 
         | I have thousands of notes in a folder
         | ~/my_notes       ~/my_notes/work       ~/my_notes/music
         | 
         | etc
         | 
         | Joplin takes them and stores the notes internally as a SQLite
         | table with UUID named markdown files. It makes it very
         | difficult to use bash tools, finding them, other IDEs, etc to
         | work with your files after Joplin has ingested them. Compare
         | this to apps like Obsidian and Logseq (also open source) which
         | don't mess with your markdown file organization.
        
       | nonethewiser wrote:
       | This matches my experience. Its all about ingestion speed.
       | Ingestion of the thoughts in my head, that is. Most note taking
       | systems require you to structure it. That's basically the whole
       | point. I find that this just gets in the way. I just need a sort
       | of working-memory dump.
       | 
       | I have a note directory with a root level markdown file which I
       | use for general stuff which i dont use much. I also have folders
       | for each task # with a similar sort of markdown file. And
       | sometimes (rarely) other useful assets.
        
       | anonacct37 wrote:
       | Going on 5+ years using a single giant org file. It's the only
       | system I've ever been able to stick with for more than a couple
       | days.
       | 
       | I think of it as my labbook.
        
         | AndyPa32 wrote:
         | Almost the same here. But I have two files, one as archive for
         | completed stuff.
        
       | dankco wrote:
       | I love the idea of using plain text files for note taking and
       | task tracking. As others have commented on specific tools and
       | workflows that make this easy for them to stick with, I thought
       | I'd add mine. I use textnote [0], which is a tool I built for
       | exactly this workflow but is hopefully flexible enough to
       | accommodate many of the similar processes mentioned here. It
       | simply opens a plain text file in your terminal and provides
       | lightweight tooling for tracking by date and rolling up previous
       | notes into archives if desired.
       | 
       | Thanks for opening another great discussion of plain text note
       | taking as a productivity tool!
       | 
       | [0] https://github.com/dkaslovsky/textnote
        
       | pchm wrote:
       | I have a TODO.txt and it's the only productivity system that I've
       | ever been able to stick with. Just a list of stuff I need to do,
       | what's done gets moved down or deleted. Maybe there's value in
       | having an archive (a DONE.txt?) but I've found that after a while
       | most notes/items lose the context and often it's hard to decipher
       | what they were about.
       | 
       | One thing I haven't figured out yet: I'd love to be able to keep
       | this file open at all time, have it pop up with a hotkey.
       | Currently it's just a TextMate window that I often close by
       | accident.
        
       | dbacar wrote:
       | Overkill. Just use Obsidian and never look back.
        
         | athorax wrote:
         | How is a single text file overkill vs. using a whole
         | application to structure your notes and format with markdown?
        
           | joemi wrote:
           | It's not a single text file, though. They're using a single
           | text file AND a calendar app. (That said, I still think it's
           | simpler than using Obsidian.)
        
       | d--b wrote:
       | I don't know how to articulate it, but I could never do anything
       | like this.
       | 
       | The ability to organize one's life like this is so foreign to me,
       | it's almost like he's describing what it's like to be an octopus.
       | 
       | I think it may be my emotional state that I can't manage. There
       | is absolutely no way, I could decide what I'd be doing the next
       | day every night. The thing is my state of mind would prevent me
       | from doing half the tasks in the list. So shit would just pile up
       | in that text file, making me every day more nervous about things.
       | 
       | For what it's worth, I think I am more "normal" than the person
       | who wrote that piece. So that's a consolation...
        
         | 6c696e7578 wrote:
         | I've a notes.txt file that follows me around in most jobs I do.
         | It's more a journal than a planner. Sometimes I put TODO in,
         | sometimes what to do when a change needs to be implemented so I
         | don't forget. That works quite well as I can return to that
         | later, or see what I was doing some months ago. It's in vim,
         | which works well too for me as I'm already familiar with how to
         | edit.
         | 
         | One of the popular getting things done methods was to keep your
         | stuff in one place, at least this article keeps inline with
         | that idea.
         | 
         | If it works, keep doing it.
        
         | Al-Khwarizmi wrote:
         | If it's a consolation, I feel the same as you.
         | 
         | I clicked because what I have is a gigantic TODO .txt file that
         | grows and grows and grows. I typically only look at the bottom
         | (newest) part, typically at what fits on screen. The rest is
         | full of things I should have done at some point and never
         | actually did.
        
           | rubslopes wrote:
           | If I could make a suggestion, try dividing your list into
           | two: a to-do list and a "someday, maybe" list. That's a
           | concept from GTD that helps a lot with peace of mind.
        
           | supportengineer wrote:
           | I enter my to-do items into Google Calendar. If I can't
           | finish them today I move them to tomorrow or another future
           | date. Once they are done they stop moving.
        
           | al_borland wrote:
           | I've been in this place more times than I care to count. I
           | find taking some time to go through it to ask if these things
           | still need to be done can help a lot.
           | 
           | In many cases, what was once thought to be important is no
           | longer important or even needed/wanted; delete these things.
           | In other cases it's more of a nice-to-have, not something
           | that is really needed. For these, if it's for you or someone
           | you like, a someday/maybe list (as another comment suggested)
           | is good, otherwise drop it.
           | 
           | Once the list is shorter and current, I find it easier to get
           | things done. When the list gets too long that I can't bring
           | myself to read it anymore, this is generally what I do.
           | 
           | I've also found it helpful to have a kind of "backlog" list,
           | and then something just for what I'm going to do today. That
           | today list needs to be short. 3 things is the max for me;
           | some days it's just one. If I happen to finish it all, I can
           | look at the backlog to add something. Being realistic about
           | what can be done in a day is really important. Getting all
           | that other stuff out of my view helps me to stop thinking
           | about all the stuff I'm not doing, as it's not helpful to
           | dwell on it.
        
         | vonjuice wrote:
         | ime it's a journey of knowing yourself. If you adopt this
         | person's workflow it won't work for you, but if you try
         | something similar, start small and gradually add more
         | organization, you might end up with something that works
        
         | jjjjj55555 wrote:
         | Does that mean that you don't get stuff done? Or does it mean
         | that you just decide what to do moment by moment? If it's the
         | latter, then why does having it written out add any more stess?
         | 
         | For me, NOT having stuff planned out is what's stressful and
         | the difference in productivity is noticeable when I have some
         | sort of to-do list/schedule vs. when I just wing it.
        
         | s_m_t wrote:
         | The trick is that you don't actually have to do all the tasks
         | you write down. It is still nice to have a record of what
         | you've planned so if you ever decide to jump back on any task
         | you have a history of what you have done and any context
         | associated with it on hand.
         | 
         | A lot of my todos are something like "I found this article
         | interesting but I don't have the current skills to really
         | understand everything in it" or "I want to add this feature to
         | X but I think I will wait until the new version comes out
         | because it will be easier then" or "I want to remember this
         | when I finally decide to do Y".
        
           | al_borland wrote:
           | This is what my read-later list is like. I always keep adding
           | to it, but I don't really have any part of my life carved out
           | to read any of it. It's full of good intentions to learn
           | about things or start new hobbies. I migrated it a while ago
           | and was really disappointed to find a lot of dead links. It
           | makes me wonder what I missed out on.
        
         | et-al wrote:
         | I think the author is trying highlight that one doesn't
         | necessarily fancy tools. The productivity space has so many
         | options that it's easy for one to get overwhelmed with settling
         | on the "best" option.
         | 
         | My partner relies on a Leuchtturm weekly planner; my father
         | bought into the whole Stephen Covey system; a coworker has a
         | stack of Post-its, and I use a hodgepodge of Google Calendar
         | (far off single events), Apple Notes (weekly tasks for work) +
         | Reminders (medium-term todos).
         | 
         | The whole point is not to rely on one's (aging) memory to keep
         | track of stuff. As long as tasks aren't falling between the
         | cracks, keep doing what you're doing.
        
           | materielle wrote:
           | I agree with the parent comment, but I would phrase it as:
           | 
           | This article feels so foreign to me because I'm not trying to
           | be productive. I don't have a productively system, because
           | I'm not.
           | 
           | I complete my works tasks. Those usually have lists.
           | 
           | After work and on the weekends, I spend time with friends and
           | family, and do hobbies as I enjoy them.
           | 
           | Beyond that, I don't try to remember things. I let stuff slip
           | through the cracks (ok, I have a planner for birthdays). I
           | don't try to get things done.
           | 
           | For what it's worth, if you looked at my life on the outside,
           | you'd probably think I was "productive". I can speak multiple
           | languages, I make music, I play sports, and I have various
           | programming projects going.
           | 
           | But I don't do any of those things because they are
           | productive. Every day after work, I spend an hour or two
           | doing whatever I enjoy in a completely non-systemic manner.
           | And I find that over a multi-year time span you actually can
           | accomplish a great deal with this "non-system"
        
         | stormdennis wrote:
         | My sister is far far richer and more successful than I am. She
         | once told me that every night the last thing she'd do was to
         | make a mental list of things to do tomorrow. That was it.
         | Nothing written down.
        
           | karolist wrote:
           | I feel there's more to the story. One thing is being
           | organized, another is being able to execute consistently, and
           | being organized is not a precursor to that. I am extremely
           | smart, and productive, sometimes. Most of the times my mind
           | jumps to random areas of interest, life happens, fight with
           | wife/GF, parent illness, alcohol binges and I'm back to a
           | baseline with almost no output. As if I'm sabotaging myself.
           | Consistency is key, how you achieve it is second.
        
         | troupe wrote:
         | I find it helpful to give myself permission decide NOT to do
         | something. The to-do list is a bunch of things that I thought
         | were important when I wrote them down. If the next day I only
         | do half of them, but feel those were the important ones, then I
         | have success. If I decide that half of them aren't worth doing,
         | the doing those would be failure.
         | 
         | The goal of the list isn't to beat you up, but just a tool to
         | make sure that at the end of the day you did the things that
         | were important to you and YOU get to decide what that means.
        
           | al_borland wrote:
           | Tony Robbins has a todo/project planning system called RPM.
           | The training for it is hours and hours long, and the
           | maintenance of it is also crazy. I wouldn't recommend anyone
           | use it verbatim, it's just too much. That being said...
           | 
           | It did bring up the concept you mention. It basically had a
           | person set their goal, then write down everything they could
           | do to get there. From there you pick the ones that will get
           | you the most bang for the buck. And when you hit your goal,
           | you're done. If that means it only took 5 tasks out of 47
           | possible, great. Goal achieved, trash the rest of the tasks
           | and move on.
        
         | emadda wrote:
         | I think it may be the kind of work that you do too. It seems
         | his work is well suited to his system. He can manage his own
         | tasks, and the actual complexity of the work is stored in other
         | systems and and documents (like research papers).
        
       | mrshu wrote:
       | Probably needs a "(2022)" in the title.
        
       | twothreeone wrote:
       | I've been using chat apps "send to self" for this exact same
       | workflow.. at work I just use Slack as it supports threads and
       | basic formatting (e.g. render code blocks separately and
       | clickable links). So every day has a few threads on different
       | things I'm working on and I can just add notes on them as I go
       | throughout the day. For my own projects I use a messenger app,
       | which is not as nice because most messengers do not support
       | threads. I was actually considering switching to an external text
       | file for versioning purposes.. and being able to render code
       | blocks would be nice, org mode looks like overkill though.
        
       | ErikAugust wrote:
       | I made a Node CLI that captures everything in a flat JSON file:
       | 
       | https://github.com/ErikAugust/todo/blob/main/applications/cl...
        
       | twodave wrote:
       | I tend to format my plaintext notes as markdown to add a _small_
       | amount of organization. I also have some light folder /file
       | organization to break things into categories/topics/days,
       | depending on what it is. That gives me a nice clean slate to work
       | from each day, but lets me pick up where I left off on more long-
       | term stuff. Finally, I push it all to a private Github repo so I
       | can get to my notes easily from wherever I am.
       | 
       | Overall this system works for me for several reasons. First, I
       | hate pretty much every note taking app out there. Second, I like
       | having control over my files. Most importantly, though, I don't
       | actually _need_ to write notes all that often, and this way of
       | doing things is convenient. When my brain is so crowded I need to
       | overflow some thoughts or tasks for the day /week somewhere, this
       | system is there. When I'm managing it all in my head just fine, I
       | don't have to worry about keeping notes up to date, and I can
       | count on my own system not to send me a push notification bugging
       | me about it.
        
         | cyanydeez wrote:
         | I'm guessing you're younger than 40.
         | 
         | At some point, either your jobs novelty will wear off or your
         | memory will just degrade.
         | 
         | what happened to me is the lack of novelty in day to day and
         | long term plans created a lot of unreliable data. having done a
         | task multiple times, recalling the latest event details became
         | a mixed bag of questionable facts.
         | 
         | I still have the same capacity but now because I had such a
         | great capacity it's redundancy causes issues.
         | 
         | just take note.
        
           | kbos87 wrote:
           | This hits hard. As I've gotten older I've accumulated a lot
           | more complexity in my life. Finances that I need to take
           | seriously, properties, family stuff, a decade+ of depth in my
           | career... it takes a lot to keep track of everything, and to
           | make it legible when you come back to it a year or 5 years
           | later.
        
           | doctor_eval wrote:
           | Agree with your take.
           | 
           | I am currently enduring a home builder who seems to think he
           | doesn't need to take notes. He has made so many errors and
           | has had to do so much rework that he's run out of time to fix
           | legitimate problems.
           | 
           | His belief in his ability to retain information way exceeds
           | his ability.
           | 
           | Understanding and accepting my own constraints and
           | limitations helped me to become far better at what I do.
           | People who don't take notes make me very anxious. (This
           | includes waiters).
        
             | psychlops wrote:
             | Even if your builder took notes, he would still have errors
             | and omissions. In my experience with builders (and many
             | other areas), it is my job to make sure they do their job.
             | Notes or no notes. Same with waiters.
        
               | doctor_eval wrote:
               | Not sure how you ensure waiters do their jobs. Do you
               | follow them to the kitchen?!
        
           | keybored wrote:
           | You make notes, organize them a little, make sure to back
           | them up/synch. them but you don't make notes for everything?
           | How bizarre. Now let me berate you for being (apparently)
           | young.
        
         | charlie0 wrote:
         | Sounds like Obsidian would make a great candidate for you on a
         | note taking app.
        
       | dopu wrote:
       | I've arrived at something similar after going through a lot of
       | different solutions: Evernote, Quiver notes, Apple Notes, Logseq,
       | Tana: now I just keep everything in one big Journal.md file in
       | Obsidian. I added a datestamp shortcut that inserts the date as a
       | title in "2024 February 19 (Mon)" format, and get to writing. I
       | use subheadings sometimes if I'm writing a lot on a particular
       | day and it gets messy, but most days it's just a hodge podge of
       | everything, and that's fine.
       | 
       | It works. A big issue with computer notetaking software, I've
       | realized, is that I was spending too much time trying to figure
       | out where to put things: what note should this be connected to,
       | which folder should this be in, etc. Dumping everything into a
       | single document, under today's date, gets rid of that. The other
       | issue this solved was that I never looked back at what I'd
       | written previously: opening a bunch of files was too tedious to
       | ever do unless I was explicitly looking for something. With this,
       | I can just scroll down and see what I was doing last week,
       | immediately.
        
       | inferense wrote:
       | there's a much better way providing simplicity with full data
       | ownership and real tasks out of the box in daily documents
       | https://acreom.com
        
       | hanezz wrote:
       | Simple txt file is the best indeed. For easily creating a new
       | file (from a template) everyday in VSCode, can recommend the
       | vscode-journal extension.
        
       | bachmeier wrote:
       | I tried doing it this way. While it sounds nice, and apparently
       | works for some people, my biggest problem was stuff getting
       | buried hundreds of lines into the file. I couldn't trust it to
       | remind me of anything beyond the few items at the top of the
       | file. Another problem was having everything as a big blob of text
       | mixed together, unless you take on some overhead when entering
       | things (put them in the right place) or during the day (moving
       | things around).
       | 
       | If this appeals to you, I'd recommend using a big html file with
       | Javascript to query the things you want to see, using class names
       | as tags. A good text editor will have snippet support, and you
       | can just dump any new items at the top of the file as they come
       | in. If you want to get fancy, you can write in markdown and
       | convert to html on the fly.
        
       | iaw wrote:
       | VSCode and Markdown go a long way for me because it allows for
       | index linking and some other nifty tricks. The main challenge is
       | making sure the md files are organized.
        
         | machomaster wrote:
         | If one uses .txt files, then one might as well use .md. And in
         | the way, one might as well use something like Obsidian.
         | 
         | So information is still textual, but there are a great lot of
         | additional niceties one can now have.
        
       | hk__2 wrote:
       | I mostly do this, but with a physical notebook. I wouldn't be
       | able to work with a .txt file because it's too limiting: you
       | can't draw anything, you can't easily make arrows between stuff,
       | you don't have the nice mental reward when you strike some item
       | off your list.
       | 
       | This is for the day-to-day organization. For the rest, I dump all
       | my knowledge in a wiki (MediaWiki), and I use iOS/macOS'
       | Reminders app to remember things to do far in the future (like
       | "cancel XYZ subscription" in 6 months) or at very specific times.
        
         | testcase_delta wrote:
         | I have an iPad and use notability for this. I have a 350 page
         | note that's filled with to-dos, doodles, screenshots of quotes,
         | etc. I love being able to just scroll up endlessly to see what
         | I was thinking about or working on, all in chronological order.
        
       | pwillia7 wrote:
       | I ended up at the same point after a lot of trying and failing
       | but wanted a _few_ extra features than notepad offers. It's also
       | important to me to be able to take notes in a browser.
       | 
       | I do use logseq/obsidian in my better moments, but having another
       | faster system is so helpful for a number of reasons.
       | 
       | I have been building my own text bookmarklet[0] that I use for
       | this.
       | 
       | [0]: https://github.com/pwillia7/Text_Bookmarklet
        
         | bobbylarrybobby wrote:
         | I'm curious what the reasons for another faster system are?
         | Obsidian is pretty fast for me; I can't imagine it being much
         | faster.
        
       | disillusioned wrote:
       | There's a virtue in being able to take this and plug it into a
       | large-enough-context-windowed ChatGPT to be able to
       | search/converse with.
       | 
       | Makes me think that the real play is to use ChatGPT for, say, an
       | ongoing todo list/dialog/personal notes system for that purpose.
       | Or wire up a custom GPT to reference notes stored elsewhere.
       | 
       | Either way, the idea that you can interrogate, intelligently, a
       | list of your own ramblings, is pretty damn cool.
        
       | denvaar wrote:
       | I am drawn to the idea of keeping todo lists, but it seems like
       | whenever I start to do it, I begin to feel stressed out or
       | overwhelmed. Not so much by the contents of the list, but by
       | maintaining a list in and of itself. Kind of like an obsessive
       | type of problem. Does anyone else feel this way?
        
         | Cthulhu_ wrote:
         | That's not unique, and also, it's often the trap of any
         | productivity tool; doing things in the tool becomes a
         | productivity goal and gets you the feeling of productivity in
         | itself, instead of the tasks it's supposed to help you
         | organise.
        
         | Gigachad wrote:
         | I only do them when there is a big gap between finding out
         | about the task and doing it. Mostly I do them on the end of the
         | day friday so when I get back on Monday and have completely
         | forgot what I was working on, I can see a few checklist items
         | for what I was in the middle of.
         | 
         | Creating a 20 point check list is just pointless. Unless maybe
         | it's a list of things you need to verify before pushing
         | something forward and you absolutely can not forget any of
         | them.
        
       | evnc wrote:
       | Reminds me of Heynote, posted to HN recently[0].
       | 
       | In general I think this approach of "super easy capture into an
       | append-only log" is great, especially if it can be paired with
       | features to enable editing/re-discovery/search/synthesizing old
       | ideas together, which exist in a _separate_ view /mode from the
       | "just get something down as fast as possible" mode. Working on
       | something like this, but just in nights/weekends free time with
       | other obligations, so it's been slow going.
       | 
       | [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38733968
        
       | renewiltord wrote:
       | Same. I saw a very productive friend just build a list like this:
       | - Thing to do           - Subtask before that can be done
       | - Another level deeper         - Another task
       | 
       | And he just deleted things from the list when done. I adopted it
       | and quite like it. I've tried keeping it in git, using some tool,
       | etc. but in the end the Notes app on Mac with the same format
       | helped because I dislike the strike-through stuff. It just
       | occupies cognitive space. Just deleting feels better.
       | 
       | Notes.app is nice as well because if I have it on a hot corner I
       | can access it easily.
        
       | wouldbecouldbe wrote:
       | To be honest, that's why apple notes really is great. I have the
       | same, but apple notes manages to save my mess on all my devices
       | without ever overwriting my own changes.
        
       | plg wrote:
       | I have been using Apple Notes which is great because I can
       | read/write in the moment on a Mac, on iPad, on iPhone, and
       | everything is (almost always) synced and stored in the cloud. I
       | have been doing one note per day.
       | 
       | On the other hand, PTF (Pity The Fool) who tries to export these
       | notes. I know some people have written exporters but of course,
       | whenever Apple decides to change format, PTF.
       | 
       | I would like to change to a more portable format, e.g. markdown,
       | but I am looking for a solution that syncs nicely across devices.
       | Maybe iaWriter. Maybe just sublime text or even emacs and just
       | put everything in a dropbox folder.
        
         | overvale wrote:
         | Text files in iCloud (or whatever whatever) works great.
         | There's a bunch of good iOS text editors. I like Runestone.
        
         | al_borland wrote:
         | I've gone back and forth between Apple Notes and more portable
         | solutions many times now. It has been awful, but I decided to
         | stick with Apple Notes. If/when it goes away, I will need to
         | suffer one more time. If I keep trying to app hop looking for
         | the perfect tool, I'll suffer every 3-6 months for the rest of
         | my life and never find peace.
         | 
         | I like that Apple Notes gives me the option to write, easily
         | add images, make tables, etc. While 98% of my notes are just
         | text, and some of these things can be done in markdown, it is
         | higher friction in markdown. So I'm choosing the lower daily
         | friction and extra features, knowing that I'll probably
         | experience one high friction migration day in the future, but
         | that day could be 10 years from now.
         | 
         | The biggest issue moving notes out of Apple Notes was the extra
         | new lines and spaces all over the place. I have to assume if
         | the app is going to shutdown that some nice developer will make
         | a little tool to take care of this. If not, meh... I'll use it
         | as an opportunity to clean up some clutter.
        
       | dudul wrote:
       | > My daily workload is completely under my control the night
       | before
       | 
       | This being the key for such a system to work.
       | 
       | Preparing a todo list the day before would be mostly pointless
       | for people who have to deal with interrupts and such.
        
       | jcul wrote:
       | I've tried various note taking / organising strategies in the
       | past and nothing compares to pen and paper for me.
       | 
       | I used to go through a lot of notepads as "scratch" work and
       | would also lose things that I would like to look back on. So for
       | the past few months I've been using a rocketbook. I have a
       | special format for weekly todo / done tasks, a kind of daily log
       | format, pages for meeting notes, and then scratch pages for rough
       | notes etc.
       | 
       | I usually upload the weekly / daily / meeting stuff or research
       | stuff I may want to keep. Rocketbook ocrs the page and uses
       | anything with ##s as a title so I can find stuff quickly. I have
       | set up different Dropbox folders for different categories of
       | notes.
       | 
       | It's been working quite well for me.
       | 
       | Some things like documention, or draft documentation etc. I do
       | store in markdown text files, and sync between my devices with
       | syncthing. On my phone I used termux and vim for editing them,
       | which works surprisingly well.
        
       | crtified wrote:
       | My todo.txt is more of a digital whiteboard, a temporary summary.
       | Once the day or task is done, the text is wiped. (That's not to
       | say I don't document things - only that I don't use my todo.txt
       | as long-term record-keeping)
       | 
       | The concept (along with sentiments such as
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39434558, where the mundane
       | inefficiency of having to access the todo.txt window every time
       | is the annoyance) makes me think that a wall-mounted screen
       | dedicated to displaying the list may be an improvement for some
       | people. Alternatively a multi-monitor setup where one (perhaps
       | smaller) screen is permanently dedicated to the list.
       | 
       | After all, back in the old days when people did literally do all
       | this with physical black/whiteboards and similar, you didn't have
       | to "pull up the whiteboard" every time you wanted to look at it -
       | you just turned your head a little, or shifted your gaze. In that
       | particular sense, having to open or pull up a file every time is
       | a regression, an added inefficiency.
        
       | seoulbigchris wrote:
       | How did the meeting with Madonna go?
        
       | riston wrote:
       | I am using a similar structure a single text file usually split
       | by each day, which also gives a good start to writing my standup
       | notes.
       | 
       | I tried to avoid bringing in some strange formatting rules etc,
       | quite free form. With a single file, it's effortless to go back
       | and find out maybe why something was done in that way or why it
       | wasn't done at all.
       | 
       | Looks kind of like a work diary to me, I have seen people trying
       | to do a similar thing by bringing too much structure/org modes
       | etc and making it so complicated that they forgot at first why
       | they are doing it.
       | 
       | KISS
        
       | mark336 wrote:
       | I use my own messageboard:
       | https://willashani.com/gigabots/threads Feel free to post! And I
       | use Apple Notes. I like the messageboard because you can see the
       | relationships in a tree-based structure. I store techy things in
       | the messageboard above. I store non-techy things in Notes or when
       | I am in a hurry and its not high priority.
        
       | swah wrote:
       | Nothing really works for me long run - my todo files get a bunch
       | of random notes with the actual tasks, and I don't want to go
       | back to them..
        
       | Glench wrote:
       | About a month ago I made a chrome extension that adds a "sometime
       | this week" todo list at the bottom of google calendar (a feature
       | I copied from Hey calendar). Any items that don't get done roll
       | over to the next week and I can go back to previous weeks to see
       | what I got done. Super helpful to help plan out my week that way
       | and integrated directly into my calendar.
        
       | yorman2251 wrote:
       | Flffmff
        
       | goodburb wrote:
       | For those that don't want to manage backups, sync and versioning,
       | UpNote[1] has a scheduled offline backup and restore in Markdown
       | format.
       | 
       | Supports Android stylus/Apple Pencil drawing as bonus.
       | 
       | Joplin comes second but is difficult to setup, lacks versioning,
       | trash bin, auto-backup, and slow react native mobile app that
       | doesn't sync in the background.
       | 
       | Obsidian Sync is close but expensive and the app doesn't offer
       | local auto-backup/versioning.
       | 
       | [1]https://getupnote.com/
        
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