[HN Gopher] Popcorn Time 0.5.0
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Popcorn Time 0.5.0
Author : pentagrama
Score : 135 points
Date : 2024-02-11 16:49 UTC (6 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
| alpenbazi wrote:
| Nice, project resurrected?
| CamelCaseName wrote:
| Popcorn Time is back?
| denuoweb wrote:
| The code never went anywhere.
| hbcondo714 wrote:
| I guess it "returned" a couple years ago, as discussed heavily
| here:
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31972681
| alecsm wrote:
| Just yesterday I was thinking about Popcorn Time and now I see it
| here.
| krembo wrote:
| Can you think of my bank account having 30m$? tnx
| dylan604 wrote:
| Reminds me of the Little Johnny joke about "I need a bike!"
| alecsm wrote:
| I got you.
| spapas82 wrote:
| Works great! Any idea if it is possible to cast the video to my
| chromecast?
| edm0nd wrote:
| IMO just join a private group and use Plex.
|
| You'll never have any ISP woes/issues.
| anonona_ wrote:
| How?
| 14 wrote:
| I know reddit had censored and shut the sub down but in past
| I used r/plexshare. You probably could just search for one on
| yandex or something. Google sucks for a search like that. The
| problem I had with plex was it can at any moment be shut
| down. Plex is actively looking for those sharing services
| like this and shutting them down. Then it would be offline
| from anywhere from 1hr to 12 hours. Usually pretty quick but
| more then one night I sit to watch my show and it had been
| shut down. I used a site called all media access I believe
| and they charged $10 a month. It was however with it in my
| opinion. They have since moved off plex and on to something
| like iptv but I just am not with them anymore so don't know
| the details. But if I was you check out all media access.
| NegativeLatency wrote:
| You might look into seedboxes, I use feral hosting, basically
| it's a server someplace where torrenting is legal that you
| run a remote torrent client on. Then on a server in my house
| I sync the files locally with syncthing and run plex locally.
|
| Jellyfin is another similar app to plex but it's open source
| and while promising is not quite there yet for what I want
| out of a media app.
| imbnwa wrote:
| Plex saved me from my Samsung TV's abysmal UPnP client.
| ToucanLoucan wrote:
| If you happen to go down the same route I did and eventually
| get frustrated with Plex's frankly abysmal apps and
| interfaces (the server is terrific though) I cannot recommend
| Infuse enough as a replacement. I HATED the Plex Apple TV app
| and infuse is a fantastic replacement.
| plorg wrote:
| Depending on what features you want (I'm not sure how it is
| with, say, streaming outside your LAN) Jellyfin works
| pretty well for me and is extremely simple to set up.
| forevernoob wrote:
| As long as private trackers have absurd seeding rules and
| require you to sign up (initially) without your VPN active, I
| won't be touching them with a ten foot socket.
| satvikpendem wrote:
| Get a seedbox and set it to seed indefinitely, you solve both
| problems at once.
| teaearlgraycold wrote:
| Just buy a hard drive.
|
| Why are you so afraid of them knowing your IP?
| manmal wrote:
| People running such trackers usually have no idea about
| security, they'll likely put your IP in an excel sheet, for
| law enforcement to take when their home is raided.
| kevincox wrote:
| From what I have seen about published seeding rules most
| trackers as switching to pretty reasonable rules. Typically
| the only major sin is not seeding for a minimum length of
| time (usually a few days). Then there are ratio rules but
| these are typically assisted by bonuses for long seeding even
| with no downloads and freeleach for new and popular torrents.
| There are still a few trackers where the site ratio stat is
| zero-sum but for the most part this isn't the case. As long
| as you do make content available you will not be punished.
| Cyph0n wrote:
| The challenge is twofold on "elite" private trackers:
|
| 1. Getting into the tracker requires ratio proof from other
| reputable trackers.
|
| 2. Freeleech becomes less common, which makes maintaining a
| >1.0 ratio difficult without a seedbox and IRC based tools
| (eg, autobrr).
| Cyph0n wrote:
| I think they mean join a group that uses a shared Plex
| server. People sell slots on their own servers with an
| automated/semi-automated request workflow for new content.
| satvikpendem wrote:
| Use Jellyfin over Plex, it is open source for one thing and
| it's not being enshittified as Plex is, as Plex tries to
| generate revenue from notoriously cheap customers, by
| definition.
| hruzgar wrote:
| Anywhere I can find jellyfin shares?
| STRiDEX wrote:
| Really interesting mix of npm packages, gulpfiles, jshint, both
| underscore and lodash, backbone.js, some stuff i've never really
| heard of like nedb which is probably because its more specific to
| electron. It actually uses node-webkit NW.js instead of electron.
|
| It's an interesting mix of new and old things as a project that
| likely has changed hands many times. Like dayjs is pretty new.
| nick_ wrote:
| The homogeneity of a JavaScript codebase has a tenth the half-
| life of an "enterprise" lang/framework.
|
| IMO this is because the JavaScript ecosystem is speedrunning
| the decades of lessons learned by the greater software
| engineering field.
| makeitrain wrote:
| I have been half jokingly saying they're rewriting php.
| ffsm8 wrote:
| Your pet theory is questionable, as the JavaScript
| (ecosystem) is one of the oldest that's still wildly used
| everywhere.
|
| The big libs have been pretty stable for the last decade
| though, even if the ecosystem itself feels quiet messy,
| likely because there are so many interested parties, each
| having their own ideas of how it should be.
|
| And it's also often the first language for a lot of
| beginners. ..
| k__ wrote:
| Users of "real programming languages" have peddled this
| narrative for decades.
|
| They are so mature and everything JS is just child's
| play...
| nick_ wrote:
| Eek. 1) I use JS/TS every day. 2) There are a great many
| people who are familiar with multiple languages, their
| ecosystems & culture, their history, and finally how they
| compare to each other.
|
| To imply that if you are critical of JS, you must be "on
| the other team", is a false dichotomy.
| KennyBlanken wrote:
| It's also some real shady shit, requiring MacOS users use an
| unsigned installer package.
|
| There's no reason it should require an installer package when
| it can be distributed as a self-contained app.
|
| I'm not giving authorization to an unsigned installer file made
| by some anonymous Russians.
| NotPractical wrote:
| The "unsigned" part isn't surprising, considering Apple would
| never approve it. But the installer package is far from
| ideal. It's typically only used when a program needs to
| install a privileged helper service, and I don't know why
| Popcorn Time would need that?
|
| Edit: It appears to be just a .app file? Unless the .pkg is
| bundled in there...
| GeekyBear wrote:
| > The "unsigned" part isn't surprising, considering Apple
| would never approve it.
|
| Apple doesn't have approval rights when you distribute Mac
| software outside their App Store.
|
| Signing just requires that you have a developer certificate
| and pass a virus scan.
| NotPractical wrote:
| Just based on the Apple developer documentation, it
| appears that you're correct: https://developer.apple.com/
| documentation/security/notarizin...
|
| I was actually surprised not to at least see "your app
| must agree to abide by some basic terms of service" on
| the list of requirements. It seems like a mostly
| automatic system.
|
| At the same time, I would also be surprised if Apple were
| explicitly alerted by Hollywood lawyers of the fact that
| an app like Popcorn Time was endorsed in any way by them,
| and they didn't proceed to revoke the signature.
| jrockway wrote:
| I kind of doubt it. Right now Microsoft is paying money
| to distribute it to people (Github). Code signing is not
| really any stamp of approval from an "app store" type
| agency, it's more of a self-certification thing. It's
| similar to TLS on the Web; Let's Encrypt issuing a
| certificate says "Let's Encrypt checked that the website
| was able to receive traffic for the named domain on the
| issuance date", not "Let's Encrypt wishes that it made
| this website itself!"
| ojosilva wrote:
| It would be interesting if Github here could put a green
| check next to the release files certifying they were entirely
| built from the sources in the repository that link to a
| corresponding ref/tag SHA. No external files involved.
| Obviously this would only be possible if the release files
| were built by GH Actions and the environment was a special
| one, absolutely sealed from the open internet that GH would
| certify, filter and curate.
|
| Still, this would not prevent some shady file in the repo or
| build hack to go unnoticed, but maybe it could become a
| starting point for delivering safer binary distributions from
| open source projects.
| me551ah wrote:
| My biggest gripe with Popcorn Time is that it doesn't run on my
| TV. I use a cloud server instead and Radarr/Sonarr combined with
| Real-Debrid(to download torrents) and Usenet to download content.
| I have a 16TB server on which I have downloaded all movies with
| IMDB rating > 6 and a good number of votes.
|
| This allows me to run Plex/Jellyfin on my TV and stream. Bonus
| points is that it even works on my mobile phone when I'm on the
| move!
| tarruda wrote:
| > I have a 16TB server on which I have downloaded all movies
| with IMDB rating > 6 and a good number of votes.
|
| That seems like a lot of movies. How many of those 16TB are
| used by all movies with IMBD rating > 6 ?
| yegle wrote:
| Depending on the quality of the media.
|
| The highest bitrate of 4k Bluray Remux movie in my library is
| ~90Mbps which translates to 50GiB~80GiB per movie.
| mcny wrote:
| > The highest bitrate of 4k Bluray Remux movie in my
| library is ~90Mbps which translates to 50GiB~80GiB per
| movie.
|
| I feel like my sub USD 500 television is not worthy of such
| high quality.
| dylan604 wrote:
| ~90Mbps? That's super high. Admittedly, I haven't been in
| the shiny round disc game for more than a decade and a
| half, so maybe they bumped up the bitrate for 4K content???
| According to Sony[0], up to 100Mbps is supported. This is
| just way higher than anything I had ever played with, and
| find it difficult to think that HEVC would even _need_ that
| bitrate. Seems like the same logic in using gold Monster
| cables makes the audio sound better when using such a high
| video bitrate.
|
| [0]https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/001906
| 48
| yegle wrote:
| Here's an example: https://www.1377x.to/torrent/5969105/T
| rainspotting-1996-Crit...
|
| I'm not saying I have this in my library FWIW.
| Cyph0n wrote:
| 4K UHD remuxes are basically straight rips of the source
| Bluray, hence the high bitrate and file size.
|
| There are even hybrid remux releases where multiple
| sources (e.g., WEB and Bluray) are fused together to get
| the absolute highest quality possible.
| dylan604 wrote:
| And how many of these movies have you actually watched? This
| just sounds like a text book case of digital hoarding. Most
| people I know that torrent do it on a distinct interest in
| watching vs might possibly some day maybe want to watch it so
| let's just get it ahead of time.
|
| I'm not judging, just noting that it's a definite new "use
| case" to me
| manmal wrote:
| I've recently heard the term ,,data prepper", which I think
| nails it. I'd probably qualify as one myself.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Sounds like a disease which would require some form of
| therapy. I couldn't imagine the sickness that would entice
| one to download and store/reseed content that I had no
| intention of ever watching like Kardashians or Twighlight
| or whatever content just because. I hope you get the help
| you need!
| toast0 wrote:
| What happened to not judging from 30 minutes ago? Now
| you're saying it requires therapy.
|
| I'm not going to go out and collect in this manner, but I
| have ended up with a rather sizable collection of discs I
| might watch someday. I had pretty much stopped buying
| discs because streaming was easier and I can mostly
| ignore the difference in quality; but I've been bitten by
| too many things becoming unavailable... if the discs are
| cheap, I'm going to get them and maybe one day watch
| them.
| dylan604 wrote:
| > What happened to not judging from 30 minutes ago? Now
| you're saying it requires therapy.
|
| because it's not the same person, and the person i
| replied to sounded much more comedic by using an air
| quotes term, so i followed suit.
|
| > if the discs are cheap,
|
| but you're not collecting discs. you're collecting files.
| if you were collecting discs, it would be even more of a
| hoarding situation.
|
| also, I can have the opinion that something needs therapy
| without judgement.
| ksdnjweusdnkl21 wrote:
| There has been dozens of times I heard about some classic
| and wanted to watch it. When I look it up on <streaming
| service> it is not available. If it's an old movie it can
| be hard to find a good torrent for it. Having an
| extensive local library of movies of general interest
| sounds nice, especially going forward when content will
| disappear and become more fractured between paid
| services.
| manmal wrote:
| No need to reseed when you just hoard Linux ISOs.
| Uehreka wrote:
| I'm not about to do this myself, but I can totally see why
| someone would. With the way some movies just fall off of
| streaming services and even rental services and just become
| unfindable, I'm glad there are people out there keeping
| independent collections.
| mmanfrin wrote:
| > I have a 16TB server on which I have downloaded all movies
| with IMDB rating > 6 and a good number of votes
|
| You do _not_ have all movies >6 with a bunch of votes on just
| 16TB, unless the cutoff is like 100k+ votes and you're
| downloading 1080p max. I have a 73TB server at 99% capacity
| right now and I hardly have a movie library.
| pa7ch wrote:
| 1080p is the way to go IMO
| ruszki wrote:
| Depending on your tv/monitor. For example, 4K is clearly
| more enjoyable on my 40 inch ultra wide monitor with good
| color gamut. And good quality 4K, not something ultra
| compressed.
| SahAssar wrote:
| Lets say you want the IMDB top 500, most of those will
| not have a scan that is better in 4k than 1080 or even
| normal DVD (480p). The ones that do (like 4k77) are
| probably highly specialized.
|
| What is the highest res 2001, godfather, solaris, alien
| rip that you can get?
| vmladenov wrote:
| 3 out of the 4 films you mentioned have 4K Blu-ray
| releases
| jjeaff wrote:
| I get TV shows in 720p and movies in 1080p. On my 75 inch
| TV, it's hardly noticeable unless I do a quick switch
| back and forth between a 4k and 1080 source of the same
| movie.
| globular-toast wrote:
| That's the thing. I can totally tell the difference
| between 1080 and 4K. But not once have I been watching a
| 1080 blu-ray and thought it would look better in 4K.
| LeonenTheDK wrote:
| That's kind of what I'm thinking, after getting my 4k HDR TV
| I was blown away by the filesizes needed to make full use of
| it.
|
| Just the most popular stuff and limited to 1080p or less
| though... Yeah 16Tb is pushing it.
| globular-toast wrote:
| Instead of telling someone they're wrong you could just
| assume they mean 1080p. If we're talking 1080p encodes you
| can totally do it in that size. If you're using 73TB for
| barely a collection you're just wasting space.
| k4rli wrote:
| >50GB/movie remuxes do look great though. I wouldn't say a
| waste of space. Storage is cheap anyway and getting big
| bitrates is also satisfying. This seems like the FLAC vs
| 320kbps "debate" where people claim to not see any
| difference, except with movies it's a much more noticeable
| gap between average and top quality.
|
| Also the compact versions rarely have enough channels and
| bitrate for a good speaker setup.
| hankhill123 wrote:
| I use https://github.com/hauxir/rapidbay for this purpose.
|
| the advantage of that is that it's all on-demand. no need to
| set up sonarr/radarr. Just set up a bunch of trackers to search
| from and pick from them on demand.
| Cyph0n wrote:
| It's quite amazing how much you can do with a working self-
| hosted setup and a decent amount of storage. The open source
| community around self-hosted services is stronger than ever.
|
| A few of my favorite lesser known self-hosted projects are
| Audiobookshelf, Komga (comic/manga reader), and Kavita
| (ebook/comic/manga reader).
| sebazzz wrote:
| Radar and Sonarr here with Overseerr as an UI for my wife.
| Bazarr for subs, jackett as a client for torrent sites,
| unpackerr for unpacking zips. Good old Transmission as download
| client.
| ashconnor wrote:
| It's a shame unpackerr is needed. BitTorrent works better on
| large uncompressed files.
| appplication wrote:
| Interesting, why is that?
| drexlspivey wrote:
| Why do you need a special program to unpack rars? I just use
| qbittorrent and put this command in the "run external program
| on torrent finished" box: 7z x "%F/*.rar" -o"%F/"
| elAhmo wrote:
| Stremio with Torrentio plugin functions exactly the same as
| Popcorn Time and runs on TVs
| Jonovono wrote:
| Real Debrid is worth the price if you want a better
| experience.
| recursive wrote:
| Is there a glossary of terminology anywhere? I think popcorn time
| is some kind of application for watching movies, but beyond that,
| I don't understand many of the comments in this story. I was into
| torrents 20 years ago, but I have not kept up with it.
|
| Currently, I get my movies from Netflix, and nowhere else, and
| I'm basically happy with that. Judging from internet comments, I
| might be the only one.
| squeaky-clean wrote:
| It's a torrent client that is able to download the torrent file
| sequentially, rather than in random chunks. Meaning you can
| stream a movie torrent instead of the old-fashioned method of
| needing to wait for the entire thing to download before you can
| watch. It's a combination torrent client and media player.
| shpx wrote:
| It also shows you a list of movies, shows and anime in the
| app and lets you search for one without having to go to a
| separate website.
| ogurechny wrote:
| Any decent torrent client (apart from Transmission?) has had
| sequential downloading for years. It was never a unique
| feature of those idiot-oriented wrappers.
| dylan604 wrote:
| > I get my movies from Netflix, and nowhere else, and I'm
| basically happy with that
|
| Mr. Hastings, is that you? The Netflix library has become so
| small and full of crap, that I find it hard to honestly accept
| that anyone could be satisfied with that alone.
| andsoitis wrote:
| > The Netflix library has become so small and full of crap,
| that I find it hard to honestly accept that anyone could be
| satisfied with that alone.
|
| 260 million paying households around the world disagree. In
| last quarter alone, 13 million new households started
| subscribing.
|
| https://apnews.com/article/netflix-fourth-quarter-results-
| vi...
| yur3i__ wrote:
| 260M households does not equal 260M satisfied with Netflix
| _alone_. Almost everyone I know with Netflix also has at
| least one, if not both, of Disney+ or Prime Video
| dylan604 wrote:
| Thanks for confirming that I didn't imply something that
| the GP read into it.
|
| They posted numbers like they were well informed, but
| conveniently left out of those numbers that you pointed
| out had more than 1 subscription that you've pointed out.
| I just didn't think this was something that needed to be
| pointed out in an honest conversation, and would only be
| needed by shills for Netflix
| sbarre wrote:
| Netflix's US catalogue is not the same as many
| international markets where they are still the only game in
| town and have the streaming rights to much more stuff.
| imafish wrote:
| I am a paying customer. Mostly due to my kids enjoying a
| lot of their stuff.
|
| It used to have a decent amount of content for me - but as
| time went, I just found less and less interesting content
| and now I no longer bother to even browse Netflix.
| recursive wrote:
| I exist, and I'm not paid by Netflix. You learn something new
| every day.
| dylan604 wrote:
| i'm happy for you. i personally, and i know i'm not alone,
| feel like the Netflix service is no longer near the value
| it was. Before, it was cheaper and had oh so much more
| content. Now, it is much more expensive, less content and
| of less quality. So, you can continue being happy with it
| if you truly are, but do not think those of us that have
| been long time subscribers that we're the strange ones
| recursive wrote:
| No, I think I'm the strange one. I can't remember the
| last time I saw someone say Netflix is satisfactory. I've
| been a netflix subscriber since before it offered
| streaming. It used to be better. But I still like it.
| ogurechny wrote:
| There is a giant market for one-click piracy solutions for the
| technologically illiterate. It's actually the same market on
| which legal services operate. Their competitors are streaming
| sites, various pay-to-pirate services that promise to do your
| work for you, and applications that combine torrents coming
| from popular catalogues with covers and descriptions from
| general purpose services into a nice interface. Choose a movie,
| and downloading starts in the background without the need to
| figure anything out. The latest and greatest Hollywood hits
| always have peers, and the rest does not really interest the
| general public.
|
| Because the users self-select for laziness and blind trust,
| it's a perfect feeding ground for malware operators, just like
| "system optimizer" and "system cleaner" applications are.
| Clients like "Zona" or "MediaGet" can sometimes be seen in
| torrent peer lists, and it's a common joke among tech support
| crowd that if one of those is installed, for some reason, the
| system always has malware to clean. Of course, the only
| "official" version may not display any unwanted behavior -- at
| least _initially_ -- but there are 50 other sites in the search
| results with totally not suspicious installers.
|
| The other thing is there is no "deep learning" here. Authors do
| not scan ALL the available torrents and figure out which is
| which, they simply use metadata filled in by users in
| catalogues. Those are the same torrents anyone can find and
| download.
| freefaler wrote:
| Strem.io + plugins + real-debrid.com
|
| beats the old and the new popcorn time
| Jonovono wrote:
| Amen. Keep spreading the gospel. This is what we all imagined
| the world of online streaming would _actually_ be like.
| no_time wrote:
| Mixed feelings about this. I do not wish for it to be shut down
| again, but I hope people realize that every popcorn time user is
| one less qbitorrent user that accidentally leaves their client
| open in the background.
|
| I have a theory that most seeding is done by people who are
| unaware they are doing it or don't even know what it is. Tech
| like webtorrents, clients for portable devices and this are
| harmful to the network in the long term.
| palata wrote:
| Unless they bring new users that would not normally use torrent
| and that happen to participate while they watch their movie?
| diimdeep wrote:
| cloc Popcorn-Time.app/ 16195 text files.
| 11358 unique files.
| 5044 files ignored. -------------------------------------
| --------------------------------------------------
| Language files blank
| comment code ----------------------------------
| -----------------------------------------------------
| JavaScript 6015 106427
| 177209 638087 JSON
| 947 36 0 214754 Markdown
| 964 42676 224 101002 YAML
| 9 19 20 97485 CSS
| 46 6016 985 88269 SVG
| 2557 0 17 43048
| TypeScript 581 2481
| 78577 37547
|
| Amazing
| atif089 wrote:
| Popcorn Time app takes ages to load even on my 5600X. It is one
| of those apps which I think should definitely move to Bun
| ijhuygft776 wrote:
| Wow, the Windows version has a lot of files... 18,450.
|
| (https://github.com/popcorn-official/popcorn-
| desktop/releases...).
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