[HN Gopher] iOS 17.4 Nerfs Web Apps in the EU
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       iOS 17.4 Nerfs Web Apps in the EU
        
       Author : dattiimo
       Score  : 31 points
       Date   : 2024-02-09 22:19 UTC (41 minutes ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.macrumors.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.macrumors.com)
        
       | chongli wrote:
       | Can someone help me understand what the strategy is here? As an
       | outsider, it seems like Apple is just defying the EU for spite.
       | How does this change contribute to Apple's bottom line?
        
         | 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
         | A crack in the app store walled garden would be an existential
         | threat because it's their fire hose of cash. It's the whole
         | reason they make so much more money than other hardware
         | manufacturers. They will defend it aggressively.
        
         | ulucs wrote:
         | They are racing to be number one in the EU fine rankings
        
         | JadeNB wrote:
         | This is a beta release--it seems very plausible that it's just
         | a mistake, rather than some sort of elaborate-but-subtle act of
         | defiance.
        
           | striking wrote:
           | > There are indications that iOS 17.4 is using SIM carrier
           | information to geo-lock the changes to web app functionality
           | singularly to users in the EU. Web apps in other regions
           | around the world remain unaffected.
        
       | alphabettsy wrote:
       | This smells like malicious compliance.
       | 
       | It's also possible that given the timeline, this was the only way
       | to comply with the law and allow a different default browser and
       | it'll be fixed in the future?
        
         | PlutoIsAPlanet wrote:
         | It's not even like Apple is hiding that they hate their DMA
         | when they're announcing their compliances with it.
         | 
         | Looking forward to the EU Commission taking Apple to the ECJ
         | over this, I strongly suspect the EU Commission will win,
         | because even if it doesn't, it will just propose legislation
         | changes to outlaw Apple's behaviour anyway.
        
           | rad_gruchalski wrote:
           | So much for ,,free market".
           | 
           | > You can do it your own way
           | 
           | > If it's done just how I say
        
       | ilmiont wrote:
       | This does not seem to be accurate - see
       | https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1755411290107863429
       | 
       | (I have not personally verified the behavior described in that
       | tweet, but if it's true then a lot of the reporting and
       | commentary around this story has left out important details and
       | the actual change is positive for users. Intentionally configured
       | PWAs still work; everything else opens in your default browser,
       | without any potentially unwanted magic.)
        
       | buran77 wrote:
       | Hoping it's just a beta issue. Otherwise there goes the "for the
       | user" pretense, reminding us that there are no "trustworthy"
       | companies, only temporarily aligning interests.
        
       | gnabgib wrote:
       | Some dupes /w comments: [0](48 points, 7 days ago, 19 comments)
       | [1](93 points, 2 days ago, 79 comments) [2](7 points, 10 hours
       | ago, 2 comments, same URL)
       | 
       | [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39236862 [1]:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39299007 [2]:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39314074
        
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