[HN Gopher] Paintings reveal how the Dutch adapted to extreme we...
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Paintings reveal how the Dutch adapted to extreme weather in the
little Ice Age
Author : Hooke
Score : 99 points
Date : 2024-02-02 22:12 UTC (4 days ago)
(HTM) web link (www.smithsonianmag.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.smithsonianmag.com)
| WalterBright wrote:
| added these to my wallpaper file!
| remoquete wrote:
| Peter Brueghel's "Hunters in the Snow" is a favorite of many
| movie directors.
|
| https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/pieter-bruegel-elder-hunter...
|
| Edit: for an ad-free alternative, as kindly suggested by a
| commenter, see
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunters_in_the_Snow
| Andrex wrote:
| Animal Crossing gave me PTSD for this painting.
| olddustytrail wrote:
| Link that isn't unusable ad-ridden crap:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunters_in_the_Snow
| vanderZwan wrote:
| If only they gave it the same extreme high-res scan treatment
| that they gave _The Harvesters_ (if you click through to the
| wikimedia page it has a 30k by 22k pixel scan)
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Harvesters_(painting)
| jmartrican wrote:
| To think how many things occurred during 1250 to 1860. All that
| progress was made during the little ice age.
| DiscourseFan wrote:
| Time to start burning coal again!
| xkcd1963 wrote:
| That is a great comment.
| cmrdporcupine wrote:
| Staring at my unused skis on my rack in the basement, and at a
| graph of climate averages for the last decade... and... A little
| ice age would be nice right around now.
| denvaar wrote:
| Looks like mainly they played around on the ice.
| KajMagnus wrote:
| Without helmets. And often in just shoes -- did you ever try
| walking in shoes on an ice skating rink? I guess it gets
| simpler with practice, still I wonder how many more %
| concussions and damaged wrists the cold weather caused
| jemmyw wrote:
| The paintings show some of the things they did in the colder
| climate. They don't show how they adapted, which was the same way
| human populations always adapt to things that affect food
| production one way or another: having fewer people to feed
| jhoechtl wrote:
| > During the Little Ice Age, which spanned roughly 1250 to 1860,
| average global temperatures dropped by as much as 3.6 degrees
| Fahrenheit.
|
| Serious question: When we say mean annual temperature rose
| because of man-induced climate change, what is the time span we
| use for comparison?
| mytailorisrich wrote:
| I think you'll find the graph in the "Little Ice Age" Wikipedia
| page telling:
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age
| ChrisClark wrote:
| Hah, that graph perfectly answers his question. Thanks. :)
| taneq wrote:
| And that's only to y2k, we're another 0.5 degrees C above the
| graph now, in 20 years. Wheeee.
| eikenberry wrote:
| That focuses on global temperatures where the little ice age
| only really impacted Europe. Is there a graph like that for
| just the areas impacted by the little ice age?
| cpburns2009 wrote:
| I'm confused. The Smithsonian article says mean global
| temperature dropped as low as 3.6 F (2 C). The Wikipedia
| image shows mean global temperature dropped at most 0.5 C.
| What's the cause for this large discrepancy?
| kimixa wrote:
| I'm always wary about weasel words like "As Much As",
| especially with no direct reference to see how the original
| data was presented. I always just assume that means "By the
| most optimistic possible reading of the data that furthers
| the goal of this article" - so it may be that the value
| from the most extreme single data point of minimum->maximum
| is 3.6f.
|
| The wikipedia graph even states in the description that
| "Little Ice Age was not a distinct planet-wide period but a
| regional phenomenon" - though that again in turn doesn't
| seem to be directly stated in the referenced citation and
| editorialization too....
| nerdponx wrote:
| https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00281-8
|
| > The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) uses a
| baseline for pre-industrial global mean temperatures that
| reference the earliest global instrumental temperature records.
| This period is around 1850-1900, when the first ship-based
| records of sea-surface temperatures became available.
| datadeft wrote:
| There are many layers of questions. At what percentage climate
| change is man made? What timeframe should we consider for the
| basis of measuring temprature changes? And so on.
| gwbas1c wrote:
| FYI: A more recent hypothesis of the little ice age's cause has
| to do with the massive pandemic that hit American Indians:
| American Indians used fire to control vegetation, and European
| contact introduced diseases that caused a massive pandemic and
| general societal collapse.
|
| Or, to put it mildly, the American Indians stopped massive
| burning projects, which introduced less carbon into the air.
| cpursley wrote:
| Well that's pretty fascinating.
| zdragnar wrote:
| It also seems to be off by a few hundred years, alas.
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