[HN Gopher] A Utah Porn Filtering Bill Is Back, and It's Stupid
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A Utah Porn Filtering Bill Is Back, and It's Stupid
Author : WhyUVoteGarbage
Score : 11 points
Date : 2024-02-04 21:05 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| pavel_lishin wrote:
| > _Most cases when minors view porn are primarily instances of
| "stumble upon" cases meaning that most minors navigate to age-
| restricted content by accident._
|
| Not sure I believe this part. If we're talking about 8 year olds
| or 12 year olds, sure, except in weird cases.
|
| But I was definitely consuming pornography at 17 years old, and I
| didn't trip and fall into it because I typed whitehouse.com
| instead of whitehouse.gov.
| __salt wrote:
| > And It's Very Stupid
|
| I wish journalists would stop inserting their opinions in the
| title like it's their personal Twitter feed.
| ndriscoll wrote:
| Depending on liability for when the filter lets something through
| (which anything other than a whitelist would, and a whitelist
| probably would too), this bill might well be stupid. But the
| quoted provision seems fine? It's illegal to give minors drugs,
| alcohol, and porn as it is. Imagining some miracle filter
| existed, why wouldn't it be illegal to disable it for a minor
| without parental consent?
|
| I'm big on free speech, but it gets real weird when people are
| against mandating parental controls _exist_ and claim it 's a
| form of censorship. Giving porn to children is already
| illegal[0], but little to nothing is done to enforce it on
| computers. It seems reasonable that people _want_ to have
| consumer devices be _capable_ of filtering, even if people more
| familiar with tech would know why that 's challenging to do
| perfectly.
|
| Edit: It sounds like they have to ask the user's age on setup,
| and if the user answers that they're a minor, activate the
| filter. And liability
|
| > does not apply to a manufacturer that makes a good faith effort
| to provide a device that, upon activation of the device in the
| state automatically enables a generally accepted and commercially
| reasonable filter
|
| So I'm not really seeing the issue. It just says parental
| controls have to exist on the device, and you can't go turning
| off someone else's kids' parental controls.
|
| [0] Here's a federal law that carries up to 10 years in prison
| for knowingly providing porn to someone under 16 using the
| Internet. The law is almost as old as the web.
| https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1470
| bettercallsalad wrote:
| My view on pornography as someone who suffered from addiction and
| still sometimes fall back to it is, it's a symptom of a
| underlying societal pathology.
|
| Human beings are designed to crave physical intimacy. That's what
| make a species successful at the evolutionary stage. If you
| believe in evolution and science then you must believe that's
| true. If you go against that, you are doomed as a species.
|
| The problem is in many aspects, we are doing everything we can as
| a species to counter our evolutionary fitness.
|
| I bet if there was a societal dynamics where people were to find
| partners in organic manner and have meaningful relationships,
| worrying about pornography reaching to kids would be less of a
| thing.
|
| Too many of our personal relationships are polluted with doses of
| dopamine, coupled with dysfunction in the dynamics in relation to
| the way people seek their partner.
|
| There is a reason sperm count has dropped 50% just in a
| generation and 25% of young women are on SSRI. Yet no one is
| talking about them.
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