[HN Gopher] A startup allegedly 'hacked the world', then came ce...
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A startup allegedly 'hacked the world', then came censorship, and
now backlash
Author : coloneltcb
Score : 63 points
Date : 2024-02-01 20:53 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.wired.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.wired.com)
| BLKNSLVR wrote:
| So it appears that Rajat Khare is behind the shady Indian company
| Appin who appear to offer "hack for hire" services whilst
| fronting as a cyber security training company and aren't shy
| about using lawyers to manipulate the public record.
|
| Just wanted to make sure that was clear.
| ThinkBeat wrote:
| Thank you for the summary. I found the article convoluted.
| dang wrote:
| (This was posted to
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39221337 before we
| merged the threads, so "the article" is actually
| https://www.techdirt.com/2024/02/01/sorry-appin-were-not-
| tak...)
| sydbarrett74 wrote:
| Is this the same Rajat Khare who owns a VC fund?
| w1 wrote:
| Per [this story](https://www.thedailybeast.com/who-is-killing-
| all-these-stori...), yes.
| mellosouls wrote:
| Being discussed here (different article):
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39221337
| dang wrote:
| Thanks! Macroexpanded: _Sorry Appin, we 're not taking down our
| article about your attempts to silence_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39221337 - Feb 2024 (21
| comments)
|
| I'm having trouble figuring out which one of these articles has
| more information. Since the this one was posted earlier and is
| currently ranked higher on the frontpage, I guess it can be
| 'the one' for now. There are a bunch of techdirt-specific
| comments in the other thread that don't make sense to merge, so
| readers may want to check both.
| __MatrixMan__ wrote:
| The difference between ads and news is that people will pay to
| publish ads and they will pay to keep news quiet.
|
| It seems that we've built quite a capable ad machine. I wonder
| what it would look like if we built something for news. Certainly
| there would be less of this nonsense going on.
|
| Like, kudos to those standing up to Appin, but the fact that
| facing down a bully is necessary at all is a design failure that
| I'd like to work to rectify.
| hosteur wrote:
| > It seems that we've built quite a capable ad machine. I
| wonder what it would look like if we built something for news.
|
| Like Wikileaks?
| babypuncher wrote:
| Yes, but without the Kremlin dictating which content is
| actually worth leaking.
| BlueTemplar wrote:
| The Kremlin ?
| staplers wrote:
| People also pay to publish ads disguised as news.
| meepmorp wrote:
| So, if you don't do business in India, why follow the court
| order?
|
| I understand Reuters taking down the article, but why would
| Lawfare or other blogs comply? What could an Indian court
| possibly do to someone entirely outside of their jurisdiction? It
| seems like the most appropriate response is "no, and we're going
| to publish the demand letters," which is exactly what techdirt
| did.
|
| Let Rajat Khare - the guy who is likely behind Appin - file in a
| US (or EU, or wherever) court. In the US, at least, he'd have to
| provide some evidence that the article isn't true, which he
| probably can't.
|
| Fuck Rajat Khare and Appin, the hacking company he almost
| certainly controls.
| lolc wrote:
| Being right can be time consuming and expensive. So unless they
| are prepared to defend themselves, people fold under the
| vaguest of threats.
| solardev wrote:
| > In the US, at least, he'd have to provide some evidence that
| the article isn't true, which he probably can't.
|
| Realistically, he just has to be able to throw more money and
| lawyers at the situation than his opponents could. Maybe a
| bigger journalistic outfit could/would fight it, but the small
| blogs would probably be easy pickin'.
| oh_sigh wrote:
| Well, the courts might not be able to do anything (unless some
| officer goes to India). But Rajat could direct his cadre of
| hackers at whoever ignores his demands.
| FergusArgyll wrote:
| This feels pretty easy but I don't really know. Someone should
| make a bot that archives any stories with his name in it
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