[HN Gopher] I don't want anything your AI generates
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       I don't want anything your AI generates
        
       Author : cdme
       Score  : 79 points
       Date   : 2024-01-31 22:11 UTC (48 minutes ago)
        
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       | echelon wrote:
       | Modern Luddites can go back to churning their own butter.
       | 
       | We're going to have incredible Pixar/Disney/Ghibli-beating
       | animation tools within months. Creatives stuck in low-autonomy
       | roles in the Hollywood studio system can finally break out on
       | their own.
       | 
       | The ~1500 domestic productions per year (and ~15 tentpole
       | productions per year) will balloon out into the long tail of
       | fulfilling every interest. That furry steampunk vampire creator
       | can satisfy his or her audience, meanwhile you can have all the
       | 1950's Asimov content your heart desires.
        
         | BriggyDwiggs42 wrote:
         | Buddy a few months is a little bit optimistic
        
           | echelon wrote:
           | You haven't seen what I've seen. :)
           | 
           | There are a lot of groups running towards this goal and it's
           | all going to land at once.
        
             | nooron wrote:
             | What have you seen? I am really interested as a writer.
        
               | echelon wrote:
               | Email or Discord me :)
        
             | doesnt_know wrote:
             | Share what you've seen then?
             | 
             | The industry has a long history of people making promises
             | they never deliver on. Every wave of tech has them, "AI"
             | has pulled them all out of their holes once again...
        
             | hhh wrote:
             | Your profile looks as if you have an interest in this being
             | true.
             | 
             | Not a judgement against you or a disagreement, just
             | something worth disclosing.
        
             | madrox wrote:
             | In my experience, "the first 80% is easy; the second 80% is
             | hard." It's very easy to get caught up in the hype and
             | think we're closer than we are because we can see the
             | finish line. All this new generative work does a great job
             | of giving compelling demos, but there's way more to do
             | before it becomes compelling media.
             | 
             | Having been through a few of these things in the last 20
             | years, I'm going to trust my priors before believing AI is
             | all that different.
        
             | ziddoap wrote:
             | > _You haven 't seen what I've seen. :)_
             | 
             | I rolled my eyes so hard I could almost see my brain.
             | 
             | If you have something pointing towards your claim being
             | true, everyone here would be incredibly interested in
             | seeing it.
        
           | jdewerd wrote:
           | Yeah, but a few years is no longer unthinkable and it will
           | definitely not take a few decades.
        
         | add-sub-mul-div wrote:
         | You can't tell what's parody anymore.
        
         | spost wrote:
         | > Modern Luddites can go back to churning their own butter.
         | 
         | The history of the Luddites is actually interestingly parallel
         | to what we're seeing with generative AI these days. The book
         | "Blood in the Machine" talks about this in some detail -
         | there's an interview with the author at
         | https://www.currentaffairs.org/2024/01/why-you-should-be-a-l...
         | that is worth reading.
        
       | xSentus wrote:
       | 90% of people have similar tastes, so statistics will make the
       | majority's lives much easier, in my opinion.
        
         | CharlesW wrote:
         | I don't want anything your statistics generate
        
       | dheera wrote:
       | While I largely agree with the author's sentiment about not being
       | very interested in AI-generated content,
       | 
       | > AI output is fundamentally derivative and exploitative (of
       | content, labor and the environment)
       | 
       | I believe humans do exactly this as well, and to a greater
       | extent. If you asked me to draw a picture of some mountains and
       | rivers there's a pretty good chance it'll be almost the same
       | composition as some Monet or Ansel Adams or other picture that
       | I've seen before and even I won't realize it. It won't be
       | deliberate, that's just how the brain works, it learns patterns
       | and extrapolates them.
        
       | bhpm wrote:
       | > If you're having AI attend a meeting for you, it probably
       | wasn't that important. If you're having AI write your email, it
       | probably wasn't that important.
       | 
       | I mean probably but I still have to do unimportant shit to live
       | so might as well have the computer do it.
        
         | economicalidea wrote:
         | That's kind of the point of it too -- I just need AI to take
         | care of the unimportant stuff so I can concentrate on the
         | interesting things
        
       | srackey wrote:
       | In a year, he'll have no idea whether anything is AI or Human, or
       | both!
        
         | amelius wrote:
         | Is that good or bad?
        
         | pvorb wrote:
         | Your expectations are too high. There might be outcomes where
         | it's hard to tell, but that's already present today. There also
         | will be many more areas where AI's outcomes will be subpar and
         | it will stay this way for a few years.
        
       | zitterbewegung wrote:
       | If you don't want to have what an AI generates then don't use it.
       | I do agree with the sentiment that the addition of "AI" which
       | goes from a rebrand of what was already there to integration of
       | LLMs is at the moment only somewhat helpful and obtuse. But,
       | really your new systems shouldn't be thin front ends to gpt4 and
       | instead something far more tangible.
       | 
       | Output dashboards or reports or aggregate data. I have my own
       | project which is a thin shell over gpt 4 but I tried
       | experimenting with an SMS UI that while only has question and
       | answer dialogs it presents the information in a different way.
       | Think of what it can enable.
        
       | usernamed7 wrote:
       | This is not an attitude that will tolerate the changes to come.
       | See: Chrome adding AI to every text field.
       | 
       | AI will, at the least, became an extension of creatives - not as
       | something that did the work for them, but that made it possible
       | for them to better create it.
        
       | qiller wrote:
       | > I don't want AI mediating social interactions
       | 
       | AI-based therapy tools that are popping up lately feel really
       | weird to me
        
       | baobabKoodaa wrote:
       | Usually these anti AI outbursts come from designers. This is the
       | first one I've seen coming from a developer. Or at least the
       | first with such salt, bitterness and anger.
        
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