[HN Gopher] The Amiga as a computer built to last 50 years (2022)
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The Amiga as a computer built to last 50 years (2022)
Author : throwup238
Score : 34 points
Date : 2024-01-29 19:06 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| DerekL wrote:
| Title needs (2022).
| ptek wrote:
| Amiga needs 2038 date patch like NeXT.
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| Also a patched AmiTCP/IP stack that supports IPv6.
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| oNLY aMiGa mAKEs iT pOSSiBLe
| actionfromafar wrote:
| I think the Amiga is such a nice candidate for an autarkic
| computer design. Simple enough to not be completely unrealistic,
| interesting enough to be worth it, and by now, insanely well
| documented.
| tibbydudeza wrote:
| The Raspberry Pi fits the bill better - it will run some form
| of desktop Linux for a long time into the future and it is such
| a simple cheap design - just 4 IC's with some bits.
|
| The same can't be said of the A1200 - flaky old circuitry that
| you cannot source new parts for except cannibalize donor boards
| - and it is huge and slowww.
| wokkel wrote:
| The pi is largely undocumented and otherwise proprietary.
| It's owned by broadcom who are otherwise known for putting
| everything behind an nda. No, the pi is a lot, but it's not a
| platform i would bet on to be available in 50 years.
| 15457345234 wrote:
| > such a simple cheap design - just 4 IC's
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| Which are absurdly complicated and proprietary SOCs
| snakeyjake wrote:
| No system with the number of custom ICs found in the Amiga is a
| self-sufficient design.
|
| The ultimate self-sufficient design is the IBM PC. Today, right
| now, you can find a compatible version of every single
| component used to manufacture the original IBM PC sitting on a
| shelf somewhere for sale.
|
| Try replacing a Gail, Paula, Alice, or Lisa that's gone bad in
| an A1200.
| bovermyer wrote:
| The sentiment is nice, and while I wouldn't mind owning an Amiga
| again (my dad had an Amiga 2000 back in the early 90s), I'm
| concerned about the video output issue.
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| Namely, will I be able to find a screen that works and doesn't
| weigh a ton?
| ikari_pl wrote:
| Yes.
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| I have a few LCDs that work natively, but you can always use
| OSSC or something cheaper but less universal
| johnklos wrote:
| I bought an Amiga 1200 (used) in the mid '90s, invested in a then
| expensive Blizzard 1260 and SCSI, used the system for years as my
| primary work computer, then rackmounted it and turned it in to
| NetBSD server.
|
| Sure, it had to be recapped, and it has gone through several
| drives, but it has run mostly continuously since 1995. It's good
| hardware, and it's responsible for many of the m68k pkgsrc binary
| packages available today.
|
| Just recently I recapped an Amiga 3000 and started playing with
| AmigaDOS 3.2.2. I could browse the web, with https, with 16 megs
| on a 25 MHz m68030. Because of Datatypes, I could even see webp,
| which my previous Mac couldn't. The OS has had recent updates.
| AmiSSL is based off of OpenSSL 3.x. Software and browsers are
| still being updated. It's amazing.
|
| It's definitely an excellent candidate for a 50 year computer :)
| christkv wrote:
| I have to say I've been eyeing a Vampire standalone to play
| with the Amiga platform again. But I know I'll not have enough
| time to dedicate to it.
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