[HN Gopher] Amon Tobin - Foley Room site (2007)
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Amon Tobin - Foley Room site (2007)
Author : hyperific
Score : 122 points
Date : 2024-01-25 20:08 UTC (1 days ago)
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| hyperific wrote:
| I don't know about you all but I miss the websites of 2007. There
| was so much variation and unbridled creativity. I remembered
| stumbling upon this page in 2007 while looking up Amon Tobin's
| soundtrack to Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory. I can't remember the
| last time I saw a musician launch such a beautiful interactive
| site for their album release. And here it is in 2024, lovingly
| preserved and still functional on Internet Archive.
| misterS wrote:
| I was amazed that the site still runs, apparently still using
| the same engine.
|
| But it seems that it was a flash site (of course), and
| archive.org seems to replace Flash Player with "Ruffle" [1].
| Either that, or someone of Tobin's team replaced Flash with
| Ruffle >= 2019.
|
| [1] https://ruffle.rs/
| vitalurk wrote:
| Canibus had a cool web player! You could make your own version
| of his music (Mentioned in
| https://theoutline.com/post/6977/canibus-internet-mic-club)
|
| Doja Cat has a programmable music video: https://dojacode.com/
| nullify88 wrote:
| Spliter Cell: Chaos Theory introduced me to Amon Tobin. Top
| Gear also heavily played Amon Tobin when showcasing cars, until
| the BBC had enough of Jeremy Clarkson. Whoever picked the music
| for the show was a big fan.
| sevagh wrote:
| You are the only one with this opinion. Nobody else on HN has
| ever expressed nostalgia for the old internet before.
| bowsamic wrote:
| I don't think that's right, I've seen a lot of people do that
| andybak wrote:
| I suspect sarcasm but without any context I'm just guessing.
| bowsamic wrote:
| It's sad, but unfortunately it's kind of like the whole
| "vulkan" issue: allow a great tool to degenerate that people
| can actually easily use (Flash) and then replace it by much
| more difficult to use and/or less well supported technologies
| (HTML5)
|
| The issue is, the training and support for similar projects in
| JS and CSS took such a long time (and honestly is still nowhere
| near the ease of use of Flash) that by just a few years later
| interactive websites became a throwback anyway. Now, if anyone
| were to do that, it would carry a dreadful air of nostalgia.
|
| That said, perhaps they would have carried on if not for Adobe
| basically refusing to fix Flash, but I think by the time Steve
| Jobs' note was published it was already out of vogue. The end
| of skeuomorphism and the era of "flat design everything" was
| concurrent, and these were easily accommodated by contemporary
| web technologies without Flash. I think that's also an
| important point, there was an era where such websites as Amon
| Tobin's were considered basically old-fashioned and lethargic,
| and everyone was genuinely very excited about turning
| everything into flat design.
| tobinfekkes wrote:
| Neat! I don't see Tobins everyday, especially not on HN.
| worldsayshi wrote:
| No sound though :( Or is it just me?
| alexdunmow wrote:
| I've got no sound either. :(
|
| Works in Firefox though.
| aidenn0 wrote:
| No sound for me either; Firefox 120.
| schmeichel wrote:
| I honestly had to do a double take when I saw this make the front
| page. Never thought I'd see Amon Tobin top HN!
| ricardobayes wrote:
| Neat. Had some of his stuff on vinyl. At some point he was almost
| mainstream, even composed the OST for a Splinter Cell video game.
| BMSR wrote:
| Amon Tobin on HN? Wow
|
| His music is great (Long Stories, Out From Out Where,
| Supermodified)
|
| The website experience is neat.
|
| This is the second musician I see making an ambitious computer
| project.
|
| The other being that game Neil Cicierega made.
|
| I jokingly pick Slowly by Amon Tobin to be the soundtrack for
| when they do the lethal injection thing to me.
| captn3m0 wrote:
| He also did the soundtrack for one of the Tom Clancy games
| (Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory). While I've never played the
| game, I really enjoyed the music.
| cityzen wrote:
| Def one of the top VG soundtracks ever!
| luluthefirst wrote:
| This is how I discovered Amon Tobin! I remember when the
| 'Theme From Battery' kicked in, I put the controller down and
| listened to the whole track before going on Google to find
| out who did this.
| andrewmutz wrote:
| I was a big fan fifteen years ago. I'd love to hear from other
| fans of Amon Tobin back in the day, what are you listening to
| these days? What contemporary music should I check out if I was
| an amon tobin fan 15 years ago?
| kkapelon wrote:
| Yoshi Horikawwa, TOKiMONSTA (her old stuff), ESKMO and maybe
| Metaform and Komodo
| mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote:
| I can't answer your question, but music-map has helped me
| find similar stuff to my favourite artists before.
|
| https://music-map.com
| giraffe_lady wrote:
| mononeon, death grips, robert glasper, thundercat, 100 gecs,
| kamasi washington
| tclancy wrote:
| Interesting question. I only recently went back to listening
| to stuff like that during work and am struggling to find
| stuff from post 2010 or so. I think I've kind of used things
| like https://open.spotify.com/album/2bu7BrEuunURavjRY9qkyR?si
| =caf... as a replacement, wholly instrumental or foreign-
| language albums that won't distract me from flow state.
| 105424 wrote:
| Plaid. Every album so far has been on the edge of the music
| landscape as it released. The last album, among other things,
| combining real and physical modelled instruments in
| electronic soundscapes against a AI/generative backdrop, The
| previous one incorporating gamalan structures and rythems
| among advances in sound design. Back in the day they where
| also using generative rytems, virtual voices, all kind of
| digital sythesis techniques when they just became aviable.
|
| It's one of the few artist in the electronic frontier that
| imho manages to consistently make musical songs with state of
| the art tech. In contract to newer stuff from for example
| Clark or Amon Tobin where it feels the intresting sounds are
| the song instead of intresting sounds making the song.
| tmerse wrote:
| Love that someone signed up for this comment :). Seeing
| them performing the polymer album at a small venue (where
| some instrumental parts where performed live) right after
| Nils Frahm is a fond memory of mine, and I agree that there
| is not really much out there that compares to their unique
| sound.
|
| Next to their usual stuff/albums there is a plethora of
| remixes out there. Can recommend this fan-driven youtube
| channel for an overview:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/@ThePlaided
| camtarn wrote:
| Have a listen to Hidden Orchestra. They do (did?) a great
| live show with sequenced tracks plus live cello and twin
| drumkits. Night Walks is a wonderful album.
| majkinetor wrote:
| Lorn !
| saint_yossarian wrote:
| I'm still really enjoying most of his recent work, check out
| all the aliases on Nomark Records if you haven't yet.
|
| Through his DJ mixes I discovered Tipper, Noisia, Frank
| Riggio.
|
| +1 to Hidden Orchestra which someone else mentioned. I also
| really love what Stimming is doing.
|
| Besides electronic music, I listen to a lot of jazz these
| days, and jam bands like Vulfpeck. I mention this because
| Amon Tobin's early records are what originally got me into
| jazz.
| shlomme wrote:
| Pierre Rousseau, Grandbrothers, Christian Loffler.
|
| Reeto von Gunten (https://www.reetovongunten.com/index.php?na
| v=music&content=s...) has a pretty good collection that I've
| found a lot of good tracks / artists on.
| zer00eyz wrote:
| Amon Tobin does great stuff.
|
| His more recent stuff is interesting as well.
|
| I love Long Stories, made on a broken Omnichord (see:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38563627 )
| throwaway77384 wrote:
| Old Amon Tobin was just the best. At the end of the day, Slowly,
| Journeyman...some of the best music I have ever heard.
|
| His stuff with the London Symphony Orchestra is bonkers
| (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggl_pWkbEoc).
|
| All of his recent stuff isn't quite my cup of tea, but that's
| just the nostalgia factor speaking. I guess anyone who discovers
| a musician during one of their eras may not necessarily like
| their other eras...which is more of a condemnation of the
| listener, rather than the musician, perhaps :)
| boringg wrote:
| That song is a gem - deep in rotation back in the day. Never
| knew London Met did it. Grazie.
| FooBarBizBazz wrote:
| Oh man, that's exactly the song I was thinking of (though I had
| the original, electronically-produced version in mind). The
| glissando string part, which comes in at 2:28 in your
| recording, is this cinematic, unapologetic, swaggering thing,
| like a sweeping helicopter shot of an Aston Martin zooming
| across Tunisia.
|
| I do prefer the original, electronically-produced version,
| because I think Amon Tobin is more talented as a producer than
| as a composer per-se, and I think a lot of the non-"classical"
| sounds in _At the End of the Day_ are really well selected,
| like the electric guitar. It adds to the "James Bond"-ness of
| it all. This is the original, AIUI:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mjnHPFS-qw
| agency wrote:
| Foley Room is my #1. I don't mind some of his more recent
| stuff, even the bass-ey Two Fingers stuff, but I do prefer the
| early stuff too. Though it's not as much up my alley I'm kind
| of intrigued by the album he put out under the Figueroa name,
| which is kind of psychedelic-folk or something. Take a quick
| listen before reading the next part
| (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWiXC_O_EVo). Here's the crazy
| part: Other than his voice, _every_ sound you hear in that song
| is synthesized and programmed with midi, including the
| "acoustic" guitar. He said in an interview if you were starting
| from scratch it would have been easier to learn to play the
| guitar, but I guess if you've spent your life devoted to
| mastering electronic production...
| what-the-grump wrote:
| OOO we are doing Tobin on HN:
|
| https://youtu.be/XqyEZ0GwS3E?feature=shared&t=2491
| hyperific wrote:
| Beautiful projection map! I wonder if they're using
| TouchDesigner for this.
| soylentcola wrote:
| Yep! They actually feature photos of this setup on their
| site.
| cityzen wrote:
| I'll never forget working at skateboard.com back in 2000 and
| watching eS: Menikmati and Slowly was the opening track. I didn't
| even care about the video, I just wanted to know what the music
| was...
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQnXa2rg58Y
| chrisweekly wrote:
| "Chocolate Lovely" (from Supermodified) is one of my favorite
| tracks in this or any genre:
| https://open.spotify.com/track/1vBoAGHCyteNYVnODrBuLK?si=ksz...
| octagons wrote:
| I wonder if there are any MonkeyRadio fans lurking around HN?
| p0w3n3d wrote:
| Should there be any music? I only can hear a starting sound. It's
| hard to get anything of it?
| tclancy wrote:
| I had to drop to the low-res version. Guessing whatever they
| used for detecting high-bandwidth connections is failing to
| grasp the values a decade-and-a-half later.
| p0w3n3d wrote:
| I tried the HQ too. Need to re-check
| hyperific wrote:
| You have to navigate around to find different critters that
| play music clips. The minimap in the top left tell you where
| they are in your vicinity.
| 666666666 wrote:
| Ninja Tune record label used to have pretty good stuff
| sitzkrieg wrote:
| ninja tune, warp records and somafm struggling on dialup, take
| me back
| giraffe_lady wrote:
| Still does. Kamasi washington, thundercat, louis cole, kadhja
| bonet, laurel, haitus kaiyote are all at the top of their game
| and signed to ninja tune.
|
| It's a really different sound from "back in the day" and likely
| to be rejected by a lot of the people who grew up on like,
| bonobo and dj vadim. But the label plays the same role,
| favoring experimental & alternative groove-based musicians.
|
| The "original" ninja tune artists were so influential that key
| elements of their sound just became part of the main stream of
| pop and hip hop today. The current crew is similarly
| disproportionately influential on other musicians, and I'm
| nearly certain it will play out the same way.
| finnh wrote:
| I didn't realize Kamasi Washington is on Ninja Tune!
|
| They had a predilection for releasing zillions of compilation
| albums with heavily overlapping track lists, which kind of
| fatigued me on the label, but I'm still fond of the early
| releases of theirs that I bought.
|
| Funkjazztical Tricknology FTW!
| giraffe_lady wrote:
| Actually I think he's on flying lotus's label, which ninja
| tune distributes or something like that, which may be the
| case with some of these others too. The alt-
| electronic/jazz/hip-hop/fusion label situation right now is
| way beyond my ability to comprehend. But I still see the
| ninja tune logo on a lot of vinyl that I like.
| ggrelet wrote:
| Weird, I saw this article about Pitchfork being merged into GQ
| [0], which points to this stats page on Pitchfork [1] only to see
| Amon Tobin is one of the select few to receive a perfect 10 for
| Bricolage in 1997 to then having him reaching the front page of
| HN. All that in the span of 30 minutes.
|
| [0] https://www.platformer.news/why-pitchfork-
| died/?ref=platform... [1] https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-
| and-guides/25-years-of-...
| jayrot wrote:
| All hail Ninja Tune!
|
| If you don't know, go listen to Mr. Scruff, The Herbaliser, Fink,
| Coldcut, Kid Koala, Bonobo, Blockhead, Talvin Singh, and almost
| countless more.
|
| Truly a case in point for the value of record labels, imo.
| psd1 wrote:
| Talvin Singh's album "OK" is jaw-dropping sober. With ketamine,
| it's apotheotic.
|
| Also: footless, and fancy-free, think how happy mom'll be...
| whoswho wrote:
| Amon Tobin might be on here even, who knows.
|
| I don't want to say I'm disappointed with his output, because I'm
| not. His creative and artistic self is far beyond what most
| people are willing to invest and endure of their life force into,
| and I appreciate knowing a person like him is out there.
|
| I suppose I'm mostly heartbroken that we've had a golden decade
| of some incredible music from this person and he has essentially
| disappeared into an abyss of soundscaping. I think Foley Room was
| the transition period and then ISAM really went all out.
|
| Parallels can be made with bands like Autechre, but that's a
| different discussion.
|
| I just want Amon Tobin back.
| colordrops wrote:
| I went to his Two Fingers show a couple years back, it was mind
| blowing.
| throwaway77384 wrote:
| Yup, I couldn't agree more. His music from back in the day is
| so incredibly unique and nobody has made anything like it
| before or since. It's impossible to find anything like it.
| Unfortunately he seems to no longer want to make music like
| that. If I was a billionaire I'd write him a blank cheque to
| make more music like his old stuff. But, I'm no musician, maybe
| he literally can't anymore. I don't know how it works, or how
| insulting the mere notion would be to him.
| ElCapitanMarkla wrote:
| I came across this guy doing a Bridge drum cover the other day -
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gChXOOqA8gg
| joshu wrote:
| fyi Two Fingers == Amon Tobin https://ninjatune.net/artist/two-
| fingers
| locusofself wrote:
| Bricolage is my personal favorite. Been a fan forever
| edkennedy wrote:
| He's been posting some really interesting 3d art and composition
| on Instagram, where he also announced he was retiring from DJing.
| Glad to see him explore his art the way he sees fit instead of
| turning into a music factory.
| everyone wrote:
| I tried 3 browsers and didnt get audio in any of them. Only
| occasional fractions of a second of audio. I tried the high
| quality and low quality options.
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