[HN Gopher] Open Infrastructure Map
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Open Infrastructure Map
Author : throwup238
Score : 107 points
Date : 2024-01-23 20:20 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (openinframap.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (openinframap.org)
| mike_d wrote:
| This is just power lines tagged in Open Street Maps. [Edit: as
| comments noted power is just the default view, this is still just
| human curated OSM data]
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| If you want telecom https://www.infrapedia.com/ is the go to
| source, but it requires a login. Carriers generally don't want
| their route maps publicly accessible unless you are committed to
| regularly updating them.
| SparkyMcUnicorn wrote:
| "Power" is the only layer enabled by default, but there are
| additional layers for Telecom, Oil & Gas, Water, and Solar.
|
| Looks like openinframap has more towers, but infrapedia has
| some other data that's missing from openinfra.
| rifty wrote:
| It's not just power lines, there is a layers options where you
| can also show oil/gas pipelines, telecom lines, and solar
| generation.
| FredPret wrote:
| Love this! Would be even better if there were labels / wiki links
| on the infrastructure. For instance, there's a huge pipeline
| across Asia, and I'd like to know what it's called,
| guwop wrote:
| Zoom in mate!
| Saris wrote:
| I find OSM maps in general have trouble showing labels, you
| often have to zoom in an extreme amount to see them, and you
| usually can't even click on features to see what they are.
| Rygian wrote:
| "Layers icon-> Map Data" to turn on the clickable OSM data
| display.
| swarfield wrote:
| Should we be marking key infrastructure, utilities don't
| distribute this information for a reason.
| aussiethebob wrote:
| Yes we should. Security through obscurity is a myth
| swarfield wrote:
| Doh, thinking about it through that lens makes it obvious!
| Freak_NL wrote:
| And any above ground stuff is rather visible in any case, and
| mapped extensively on OpenStreetMap.
| mike_d wrote:
| People used to get really upset about such datasets because
| terrorism/vandalism/etc. But eventually more sane opinions
| prevailed as attackers don't use this type of data - they
| either have insider knowledge already or just drive around to
| scope out targets.
|
| DHS now publishes a ton of open datasets to help with disaster
| planning, emergency response, and infrastructure hardening.
| https://hifld-geoplatform.opendata.arcgis.com/search?collect...
| swarfield wrote:
| :+1:
| chaps wrote:
| Used to?
|
| A lot of that still happens, just instead of "terrorism",
| it's "crime". FOIA requests for locations of camera, alpr,
| and other massively used and unaudited surveillance equipment
| are routinely denied because it will "allow criminals to
| circumvent". It's all silly and benchmark moving.
| mike_d wrote:
| Yes, used to. 15 years ago trying to publish research on
| critical infrastructure vulnerabilities would get you a
| visit from the FBI (ask me how I know). Now you get invited
| to DC to present it in person and your remediation
| suggestions are taken seriously.
| electric_mayhem wrote:
| Ok, mike_d, but how do you know?
| sam_lowry_ wrote:
| Second that!
| lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote:
| I get the feeling an adversary who wants to know where they can
| cause the most mayhem of this nature already does. I think a
| map is ultimately unnecessary anyway; I'd guess it's more
| appealing to sabotage remotely using computer networking
| vulnerabilities than to risk a field agent.
| mikece wrote:
| I rather appreciate knowing where the key electrical
| substations are in my area: helps me to understand exactly who
| can screw with things and where they would do it -- which makes
| me pay closer attention when I pass by substations and see
| someone lurking about. Not knowing that the location is
| critical I wouldn't think twice about someone loitering;
| knowing the location is sensitive and critical makes me look
| twice, take an active interest, and perhaps phone in a
| suspicious activity reports. Some people while about this
| information enabling terrorists: I think it enables all of us
| to open our eyes and protect our own interests.
| guwop wrote:
| So much geo stuff on HN today! hallelujah
| sfblah wrote:
| Why are there underwater power lines connecting Ireland and the
| UK, for example?
| Symbiote wrote:
| To import and export electricity between the two islands.
| cozzyd wrote:
| I see some missing HV lines I know about, is there an easy way to
| add them?
| dang wrote:
| Related:
|
| _Open Infrastructure Map_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33340983 - Oct 2022 (2
| comments)
|
| _Open Infrastructure Map_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29948473 - Jan 2022 (45
| comments)
|
| _Open Infrastructure Map_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20523882 - July 2019 (4
| comments)
| takipkasmamedia wrote:
| Thanks baby
| raggles wrote:
| oh dear, I wish I hadn't looked. So many of the power lines in my
| area have the wrong voltage, and zone substations with incorrect
| spellings. Now I feel obligated to fix it.
| jdlyga wrote:
| If you've never been to the northeastern US (Boston, New York,
| Philly, DC), it's like an entirely different country from most of
| the rest of the US. The map really speaks volumes.
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