[HN Gopher] Chronic inflammation may be a "disease of affluence"
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Chronic inflammation may be a "disease of affluence"
Author : PaulHoule
Score : 25 points
Date : 2024-01-22 19:20 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| mensetmanusman wrote:
| It seems like the hygiene hypothesis is true... I wonder how long
| before patches that replace allergy shots exist to fix us :)
| markstos wrote:
| The other thing correlates with Western affluence is our diet
| that's much heavier in animal products. The Standard American
| Diet: SAD.
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| The diet of the Blue Zones where people live longest are mostly
| plant-based.
| extasia wrote:
| Do you believe that meat consumption is the prime causal
| factor?
| firecall wrote:
| Wasn't there something linked on HN the other day that pointed
| out what nonsense the Blue Zones are?
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| No validate scientific evidence, blue zones are areas with bad
| record keeping and no birth certificates etc...
| xhkkffbf wrote:
| Mostly plant-based? This is kind of wishful thinking. Okinawa,
| for instance, eats plenty of fish. The Greeks and the Italians
| eat plenty of fish, meat and cheese.
|
| The poorest countries have the greatest percentage of plant-
| based food and, no surprise, they also have the shortest
| lifespans. The reality is that the phrase "plant-based" is now
| a buzzword replacement for "vegetarian" and it has more
| political meaning than any real connection to health or
| nutrition. Hostess Twinkees, Hohos, Ring Dings, etc. are all
| very good examples of plant-based food.
| teslabox wrote:
| > research [] conducted in the Philippines and Ecuador
|
| These are tropical countries where coconuts are an evolutionary-
| appropriate part of the food supply. Coconut oil is mostly
| saturated, and is stable at human temperature. Western countries
| switched to polyunsaturated "vegetable oil" as a dietary staple.
|
| Sometime in the 1940's the paint industry figured out how to make
| their paints and stains from petroleum distillates. Originally
| the paint industry used linseed oil and soybean oil for most of
| their products. The unsaturated components of polyunsaturated
| seed oils combine spontaneously with the oxygen in the air to
| form a hard film [0].
|
| The paint industry essentially said, "farmers, thanks for your
| products all these years, best of luck in your future endeavors."
| The seed oil conglomerates [1] (ADM, et al) were screwed. Then
| they realized they could just rebrand their products as
| "vegetable oil". Ancel Keys was hired to convince people of the
| hazard of saturated fats...
|
| Omega-6 degrades to prosteglandins [2], which are molecules of
| stress and inflammation [3]. Omega-3's are more unstable than
| Omega-6 oils. IMHO, the o-3 / o-6 ratio doesn't really matter -
| the most important thing to get inflammation under control is to
| limit "vegetable oil" intake.
|
| Olive Oil's okay, if it's genuine. Unfiltered olive oil is even
| better. But wikipedia says the American Heart Association still
| recommends getting your daily dose of inflammation precursors
| [4]. Not impressed.
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| [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drying_oil
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| [1] https://www.imarcgroup.com/vegetable-oil-manufacturers
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| [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostaglandin
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| [3] https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0334211100
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| [4]
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-6_fatty_acid#Health_effe...
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