[HN Gopher] A man who used music to try to lure aliens to earth ...
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       A man who used music to try to lure aliens to earth (2020)
        
       Author : pmcpinto
       Score  : 22 points
       Date   : 2024-01-21 14:09 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | techwiz137 wrote:
       | Am I the only one that thinks it's not a good idea? I mean the
       | signal hasnt traveled very far, but yeah these announcements
       | "hey, we're here" aren't very nice.
        
         | lijok wrote:
         | Agreed. Horrible idea to broadcast our position like this. But
         | hella exciting
        
           | notso411 wrote:
           | Bit late for that mate.
        
             | dylan604 wrote:
             | Not really sure why this was killed, but it's absolutely
             | true. From the moment we started making radio signals,
             | we've been broadcasting our location. Every single time we
             | communicate with our deep space probes, we're sending out
             | very specific signals that we're here. To that end, that's
             | the entire point of the opening scene in the movie Contact.
             | It's just that the time frame we've been broadcasting is
             | just a drop in the ocean of cosmological time, and the
             | signals really haven't gone very far in comparison.
        
               | samus wrote:
               | Our signals are so weak that they will probably fade and
               | get drowned out by the electromagnetic noise of
               | interstellar space. We can communicate with our probes
               | only because we use directional signals and we pretty
               | much know what to look for on the receiving end. If
               | aliens manage to pick those up, then their probes would
               | already be like < 1ly away, and they would have noticed
               | us long ago by different means.
               | 
               | The intentional signals are a different story though.
        
               | exe34 wrote:
               | They can probably just watch co2 spectral lines and count
               | how many of us there are.
        
         | stareatgoats wrote:
         | I used to think I was the only one, but now it seems we are two
         | at least. In fact the main reason we haven't discovered
         | advanced civilizations on other planets is likely that they
         | learned not to disclose it - the hard way...
        
           | digbybk wrote:
           | You're certainly not the only two.
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_forest_hypothesis
        
           | lelandfe wrote:
           | This is the plot of the very good sci-fi book _The Three-Body
           | Problem_ and its two sequels. It popularized the dark forest
           | theory a sibling commenter linked to.
           | 
           | That is: if you're in a forest that's dead silent, and you're
           | wondering where all the animals are, it might not be a good
           | idea to start shouting.
        
         | ijhuygft776 wrote:
         | I think music is the perfect solution.
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | Until we find out that rap/hip-hop is interpreted as an
           | aggressive war challenge, or you can find out that yodeling
           | country music is an effective weapon.
        
         | dmd wrote:
         | When you say "it", do you mean this one individual with his one
         | radio transmitter, or do you mean the collective practice of
         | humanity in its billions using radio transmissions?
        
         | thegrim33 wrote:
         | I personally believe METI practitioners are extremely arrogant
         | ideologues. They've decided that they speak for the entire
         | world, the entire human race, and that they can risk all life
         | on this planet. They think they know better than everyone else,
         | they think they're smart enough, when in reality they truly
         | know nothing about what else is lurking out there in the
         | universe, just like the rest of us.
         | 
         | The only rational, safe, approach is silent observation of the
         | universe for now, at least the best we can, until we have more
         | data, but they give the rest of us the finger and just start
         | blasting signals into the void. It's borderline evil. There's
         | numerous groups, not individuals, who actively plan on blasting
         | out really powerful signals in the near future and they don't
         | care what the rest of us think.
        
           | unsupp0rted wrote:
           | Reminds me of the people with "Welcome to Earth" placards
           | standing on rooftops in _Independence Day_ (1996).
        
           | mpreda wrote:
           | It seems to me you're _projecting_ our own human nature over
           | all possible intelligent life.
           | 
           | But with a bit of imagination the potential space of
           | intelligent life is much larger than just "displaying human-
           | like agressive traits".
        
             | samus wrote:
             | The loss of not making contact with friendly aliens is
             | probably not very high. Attracting aliens whose presence
             | would have negative impact for us would be catastrophic.
             | The aliens would not even have to be that aggressive -
             | there's plenty of different ways that civilizations can
             | harm each other, even if it might not be intentional.
        
         | jcul wrote:
         | Have you read the three body problem?
        
       | dylan604 wrote:
       | A group of us DJ friends used to say "we speak alien" which was a
       | comment about the type of music we played. There's a group by the
       | name of Eat Static which is known for their prolific use of
       | aliens trope and 50s style sci-fi samples that has an album
       | titled "Abduction". One of the tracks is called "Gulf Breeze"
       | which at one point was famous for the most reports of alien
       | abductions. I always wanted to spend a night playing music on the
       | beach waiting for the aliens to make an appearance as it seemed
       | to be the most likely of places for it to happen.
       | 
       | Just a random story on a bored sunday
        
         | tinix wrote:
         | gulf breeze florida? i grew up around there, lots of air force
         | bases in the region, and seeing "UFOs" was very common. can't
         | say i ever heard about abductions though... we definitely saw
         | craft accelerate very quickly without sonic booms (which were
         | common from jets)
        
         | wizardforhire wrote:
         | Some now even go so far as to claim theyre aliens... or more
         | specifically reptilians
        
           | hammyhavoc wrote:
           | Who? There are DNA tests waiting for them to validate this
           | very specific brand of bullshit.
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | Wait, you're saying that people claim that they themselves
           | are reptilians? I've only heard the nutters claiming that
           | other people are reptiles. There's always gotta be somebody
           | out there that just has to one up the story.
        
       | ww520 wrote:
       | Aliens won't bother unless a warp drive leaves a hyper jump
       | signature.
        
       | david_shi wrote:
       | "In sending out music, the idea was to communicate that sense of
       | humanness, that feeling and drive, that ecstasy."
       | 
       | Somehow, this makes perfect sense.
        
       | Triphibian wrote:
       | The turntablist Mix Master Mike (Beastie Boys, Invisibl Skratch
       | Pikls) used to say that his scratches were an attempt to speak to
       | aliens.
        
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