[HN Gopher] Antidepressant use is surging in Britain
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       Antidepressant use is surging in Britain
        
       Author : doener
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2024-01-20 09:06 UTC (13 hours ago)
        
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       | _rm wrote:
       | In their defence, it is Britain.
       | 
       | One could theorize that the British empire was less about power
       | and glory, and more about desperately trying to escape that
       | miserable gray rainy existence and that awful bland food.
        
         | _fw wrote:
         | "British food and British women made British sailors the finest
         | in the world".
        
         | foldr wrote:
         | > awful bland food
         | 
         | Too out of date to be funny. This hasn't been anywhere near
         | true for at least a couple of decades.
        
       | nickdothutton wrote:
       | Antidepressants have been handed out like candy in the UK for
       | decades. It was a news story in the 90s.
        
         | johnday wrote:
         | Then a very recent _increase_, even beyond that, is notable,
         | no?
        
           | nickdothutton wrote:
           | I would say we passed the tipping point quite some time ago,
           | where they were seen as a cheap salve for numerous problems,
           | rather than actually tackling the growth in reasons for
           | people needing them. "My life is getting me down
           | Doctor"/"Here, take some of these".
        
         | user_7832 wrote:
         | Can't speak for everyone but anecdotally I have seen a very
         | similar thing in India too. Often, it turned out to be
         | something else (commonly it was undiagnosed ADHD which
         | apparently can be in 5-10% of the population.)
        
           | hammyhavoc wrote:
           | Inversely, what people think is ADHD can turn out to be
           | depression too, so it probably balances out.
        
       | mjfl wrote:
       | There's really not enough skepticism of psychiatry given that
       | it's a barely scientific field. "Chemical imbalance" is a term
       | that is still in common parlance even though it's scientifically
       | bankrupt. Not British but looking on social media it seems many
       | of their women have bought into this... ideology hook line and
       | sinker. Americans too.
        
         | jassyr wrote:
         | Recently science has been pushing back on the "Imbalance"
         | language. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2022/jul/analysis-
         | depression-prob...
         | 
         | Moreover, it seems to me there are far more people skeptical
         | and ideologically opposed to antidepressants than those
         | supporting it.
         | 
         | SSRI's changed my life for the better and it's a real shame I
         | listened to the naysayers for so long. There's no shame in
         | seeking help and treatment. Something like 8% of American men
         | take an ssri, and based on my own social group's struggles it
         | should probably be well over 50% (I'm exaggerating only
         | slightly).
        
           | rabbits_2002 wrote:
           | They don't work for everyone and have negative effects for
           | lots of people including myself.
        
         | hammyhavoc wrote:
         | Can you quantify this "many"? What were your data points for
         | identifying them? What social media platform(s)? Where can I
         | read more about your research into these "women who have bought
         | into this"?
         | 
         | I'm extremely skeptical of your vague claim.
        
           | mjfl wrote:
           | You simply need eyes and ears to hop on one of the social
           | media apps and hear the majority of women discuss their
           | mental health and use of psychiatric drugs.
        
             | hammyhavoc wrote:
             | Again, quantify this "majority of women" for me. This
             | sounds like the most sexist shite I have ever read on this
             | website and like complete confirmation bias, if not
             | fabricated nonsense.
        
               | mjfl wrote:
               | You sound unstable.
        
         | barrysteve wrote:
         | SSRI's are known to have side effects on your sex drive, libido
         | and anorgasmia in some cases.
         | 
         | The bar for informing patients on potential side effects is so
         | low. The silver bullet attitude many doctors carry with ssri
         | prescriptions is quite misleading.
         | 
         | [0]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9934946/#:~:text=Among%20the
         | ....
        
           | marcellus23 wrote:
           | Sexual dysfunction is literally the most well-known and
           | discussed side effect of SSRIs. Every doctor I've spoken to
           | has mentioned it, and so does the information sheet that
           | accompanies the prescription bottle. And of course any google
           | search will bring it up immediately. It's not exactly a dirty
           | secret.
        
         | bufio wrote:
         | "Chemical imbalance" is not common parlance in psychiatry.
        
           | Zetobal wrote:
           | I mean I get your argument but as a bipolar patient I still
           | hear it all the time ;)
        
       | djsedaw wrote:
       | I'm not surprised, have you seen our government?
        
         | speedylight wrote:
         | I'm not from England but I've heard a lot about how much of a
         | shit show the Conservative Party is there.
        
         | vdaea wrote:
         | You mean the one that was chosen by the citizens because they
         | considered it superior to the rest of options?
        
           | JamesLefrere wrote:
           | No, that must be some other country, perhaps where one of the
           | last two leaders was actually elected.
        
           | badgersnake wrote:
           | Seems like most people have realised their error looking at
           | the polling.
        
       | Zetobal wrote:
       | I mean it's like their fourth prime minister without a vote.
        
       | CapstanRoller wrote:
       | "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly
       | sick society."
       | 
       | - Jiddu Krishnamurti
        
       | bufio wrote:
       | Shit Life Syndrome is on the increase. It seems that a lot of
       | people feel that they and their loved ones are quickly running
       | out of track.
        
       | theGnuMe wrote:
       | My prescription is to Drink less or don't drink alcohol at all.
       | 
       | Then meditation.
       | 
       | Antidepressants do work but depression is your body telling you
       | something is wrong so figuring that out is helpful.
       | 
       | Britain has Shiite life syndrome as well. It probably exists here
       | in the USA but we don't see it so much b/c of inequal access to
       | health care.
        
       | pedalpete wrote:
       | https://archive.is/5sjF0
        
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