[HN Gopher] FAQ on Leaving Google
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FAQ on Leaving Google
Author : mrled
Score : 64 points
Date : 2024-01-17 22:12 UTC (47 minutes ago)
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| ggambetta wrote:
| _The conflict between "uncomfortable culture" and "golden
| handcuffs" was becoming intolerable._
|
| Amen :_(
| vesinisa wrote:
| What is he referring to here exactly?
| dmoy wrote:
| Google culture is significantly different from 10-15+ years
| ago. Some of those differences can be uncomfortable for
| someone used to the earlier times.
|
| But also a Director is probably pulling >$1,000,000 / yr (the
| golden handcuffs).
| hiddencost wrote:
| Imagine being paid $1-$2m a year but not liking the how the
| culture of a company you'd been at for decades was changing.
| Would you quit? When?
| bitwize wrote:
| _Please understand: Google is not a person._
|
| Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower...
| AceJohnny2 wrote:
| Ref: Bryan Cantrill, speaking of Larry Ellison, in the context
| of working for Oracle after Sun got acquired:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc
|
| It's a hilarious rant, starting at 34:00, and the specific
| quote around 38:35.
| nextos wrote:
| IMHO, these senior people leaving is a good thing for them and
| for society.
|
| Most have enough savings to be able to start up something
| interesting, fun, and that delivers a lot more societal value
| than their current Google role.
|
| Junior redundancies are more problematic, particularly in the
| current job market.
| ibejoeb wrote:
| It's only a matter of time before there a no more remaining
| don't-be-evil googlers. Not particularly looking forward to
| that.
| simonw wrote:
| I knew Ben Collins-Sussman from his work on Subversion and his
| writing and speaking about engineering management... but I had no
| idea he'd co-composed two musicals as well!
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Collins-Sussman#Musical_co...
| throw_pm23 wrote:
| A nice writeup but
|
| "achieving really cool things in the [..] Ads [..] divisions"?
|
| Come on, no need to fool anyone now that you are free.. There's
| nothing cool to be achieved in ads, unless you were working to
| dismantle the entire industry from the inside.
| cybrox wrote:
| Morally? Probably not.
|
| In terms of challenge and complexity? Sure!
|
| It's the same thing as working in military tech. You shouldn't
| be a huge fan of blowing people to bits but the challenges and
| solutions are incredible.
| throwitaway222 wrote:
| Tech is simply maturing. It has had two major meltdowns at this
| point. The first one it was still getting it's footing. The
| second one accounts for bloat in an age where half the hiring was
| done during a pandemic that necessitated positions that are
| pretty much superfluous now. Zoom competitors, Virtual meetings,
| 3d environments - all the pandemic related initiatives that
| "brought people together" are over. We're moving back to the
| office, we're dropping DEI, migrating things to AI.
|
| This is not the end of extremely large paychecks, but it's the
| end of potentially 30% of them.
| coliveira wrote:
| "Google is not a person"... Google lawyers will tell you
| completely otherwise! Google is certainly a person in the
| thinking of the US supreme court.
| kagakuninja wrote:
| Step one: dry your tears while counting your giant pile of
| money...
| sethops1 wrote:
| Two talks given by Ben Collins-Sussman absolutely changed my
| career path from being a hot headed programmer to thinking like a
| professional engineer.
|
| The Myth of the Genius Programmer:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SARbwvhupQ The Art of
| Organizational Manipulation:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTCuYzAw31Y
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| I rewatch these every few years, or before an interview. Puts me
| back in the right headspace.
|
| If you're reading this Ben, thank you.
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