[HN Gopher] How Monopolists drive the power and wealth divide
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       How Monopolists drive the power and wealth divide
        
       Author : simonebrunozzi
       Score  : 23 points
       Date   : 2024-01-17 21:58 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.globaljustice.org.uk)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.globaljustice.org.uk)
        
       | boringuser2 wrote:
       | >Who are Global Justice Now?
       | 
       | >We are a democratic social justice organisation working as part
       | of a global movement to challenge the powerful and create a more
       | just and equal world. We mobilise people in the UK for change,
       | and act in solidarity with those fighting injustice, particularly
       | in the global south
       | 
       | Seems like you might want to vet your sources, this is a highly,
       | highly polemic group: you can especially tell because moderately
       | polemic groups will at least try to obfuscate their bias.
        
         | phartenfeller wrote:
         | Why not debate what they say? Whoever brings up an argument
         | doesn't matter if they have a point, in my opinion. Otherwise
         | it would be ad hominem:
         | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem .
        
           | boringuser2 wrote:
           | You're skirting on the fact that what I've stated isn't an ad
           | hominem because I'm not directly refuting any specific
           | argument.
           | 
           | I'm applying a heuristic.
        
           | DaiPlusPlus wrote:
           | > Why not debate what they say?
           | 
           | Because it's not worth debating to us and the vast majority
           | of us aren't policymakers when it comes to matter of global-
           | economics. I suspect the link to posted here to HN on the
           | off-chance a CTO or tech-savvy CEO of an influential SV
           | company sees it and decides to bring it up at Davos this
           | week.
        
         | jdewerd wrote:
         | Ah, yes, all the economic think tanks funded by people and
         | organizations of a certain economic background promoting policy
         | that coincidentally serves the purposes of those same parties
         | are more trustworthy because they try to obfuscate their bias.
         | 
         | What?
        
           | boringuser2 wrote:
           | You've erected and demolished a strawman, this is an actual
           | logical fallacy, unlike the attempt below.
        
       | amelius wrote:
       | The least we can do is agree that money is a societal construct,
       | and if money grows all by itself then the gains should be fully
       | taxed and given back to society.
        
         | boringuser2 wrote:
         | This is an incredibly pointless statement.
         | 
         | Nobody thinks that money isn't a contract.
         | 
         | Calling everything a "social construct" -- or, rather, calling
         | _anything_ a social construct is meaningless. Everything is a
         | social construct, even  "I" as a concept.
        
         | ethbr1 wrote:
         | What does "money growing all by itself" mean?
        
           | amelius wrote:
           | That you did not perform significant work for it, and did not
           | take a significant risk.
        
             | ethbr1 wrote:
             | So significant work and/or significant risk are required to
             | justify returns.
             | 
             | What if these things are offloaded to a secondary party, in
             | exchange for a portion of the returns?
        
       | brigadier132 wrote:
       | Another organization ran by college educated burnouts claiming to
       | be advocating in favor of the "working class". Blue collar manual
       | laborers hate this shit.
        
       | l33tbro wrote:
       | While there is a public thirst for breaking up monopolies, it
       | really does seem that antitrust has become something of a bygone
       | era. Matt Stoller's fascinating book Goliath [1] really lays out
       | the history of monopolies and how they formed the bedrock for
       | these companies.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.amazon.com/Goliath-100-Year-Between-Monopoly-
       | Dem...
        
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