[HN Gopher] John Lasseter drew the BSD daemon logo
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John Lasseter drew the BSD daemon logo
Author : jelder
Score : 313 points
Date : 2024-01-17 17:49 UTC (5 hours ago)
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| andrewstuart2 wrote:
| "The Director of 'Toy Story'" is a pretty understated way to
| refer to John Lasseter [0], who effectively headed up all the
| Pixar projects (on the creative side) from the beginning of the
| company, and directed 5 of their films.
|
| [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lasseter
| dang wrote:
| Ok, we've put John Lasseter up there now.
| Razengan wrote:
| I knew him through his introduction to the English version of
| Studio Ghibli's Spirited Away :)
| Findecanor wrote:
| He had won his first Oscar for the animated short Tin Toy in
| 1989, and had been nominated for Luxo Jr. a couple years prior.
| I first read about him and Pixar in an article about that those
| in a electronics magazine back then. What I read about had a
| profound impact on me, making me want to learn how to program
| computer graphics.
| hyuuu wrote:
| wow that is actually pretty cool, i wonder what other instances
| of thought leaders criss crossed to a different industry like
| that
| xxr wrote:
| A favorite instance of mine is Rolly Crump, who did a lot of
| design work for Disney theme parks but also created the iconic
| branding for Ernie Ball guitar strings.
| schlauerfox wrote:
| Rolly! My dad worked with him at AVG where Rolly would
| consult in his post disney career, he art directed the
| LazerMaze that was a mall attraction IR gun robot shooting
| gallery you would walk through installed a bunch of places,
| Edmonton Mall, Sherman Oaks Galleria, Six Flags Magic
| Mountain, san diego boardwalk and a bunch of places. .
| https://bestedmontonmall.com/2021/01/25/lazer-maze/
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU3g6wvk5jQ I think we may
| have the only parts of the thing left. It used an s100 bus
| computer with a custom designed audio adpcm board. Rolly
| designed the robots and the never built robot queen, before
| he passed I asked if he had any art left but sadly no.
| bradneuberg wrote:
| I nice coincidence is that Stewart Brand, who later went on to
| found the Whole Earth Review and other counterculture icons,
| was the camera man running the camera at Douglas Engelbart's
| famous Mother of All Demo demo in 1968 in San Francisco.
| bch wrote:
| Alton Brown (celebrity chef, TV host, etc), was the
| cinematographer for the video for R.E.M.s "The One I Love".
|
| Gary Fisher (Fisher Mountain Bikes) had worked light shows for
| the Grateful Dead and went on to make an officially sanctioned
| Grateful Dead bicycle[0][1] with proper artwork.
|
| [0] https://www.dead.net/fanphotos/gd-bike-poster
|
| [1] https://forums.bikeride.com/thread-8750.html
| bsimpson wrote:
| Gary Fisher is a literal forefather of mountain biking.
| "Fisher Mountain Bikes" predecessor was just called
| "MountainBikes," because "mountain biking" wasn't a thing
| when they started.
| polynomial wrote:
| "Lassetter wasn't the first to draw this, but his version became
| the most popular." (FTA)
| jasonjayr wrote:
| Phil Foglio (Girl Genius, Buck GoDot, etc) had drawn the first
| version prior to Lasseter's
| threetonesun wrote:
| And some great card art from the "let's not take this too
| seriously" era of Magic the Gathering.
| jzb wrote:
| Wow, really? That's amazing. I wonder if Foglio was ever
| actually a BSD user.
|
| I have a soft spot in my heart for Foglio's early work, like
| "What's New with Phil & Dixie" from _Dragon_ magazine and his
| adaptation of Myth Adventures. I 'm particularly fond of The
| Winslow[1]. Sadly, nobody I know has ever read more than a
| few Phil & Dixie cartoons and I just get weird looks if I
| talk about The Winslow.
|
| [1] https://comicvine.gamespot.com/winslow/4005-31428/
| kps wrote:
| Foglio's drawing was for UNIX, a couple years before the
| first BSD releases. Unfortunately the original was lost,
| and the best you can find online now are just photos of
| t-shirts like
| https://www.mckusick.com/beastie/jpg/foglio.jpg
| not2b wrote:
| And Debian releases are named for Toy Story characters.
| dylan604 wrote:
| The only release I knew by name was Woody, but for others
| curious, here's a page with the releases names listed:
|
| https://www.debian.org/releases/
|
| I love the homages/easter eggs in the *nix world
| rootbear wrote:
| Bruce Perens, a major figure in Debian Linux, worked at Pixar
| for years. He was my officemate for a while when I was there in
| the late 90s.
| 29athrowaway wrote:
| And Debian itself is a combination of Deb and Ian, Deb being
| Ian's partner at the time.
|
| Deb broke up with Ian and then Ian had a tragic end. It is a
| name surrounded by tragedy.
| gofreddygo wrote:
| Jeez, I never could draw the connection between those Debian
| names and Toy Story characters. Till now. Thank you. TIL!
| geerlingguy wrote:
| Now we're getting more tangential, but for years, Ansible
| releases were named for Van Halen songs (see old Changelog
| here:
| https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/v1.8.4/CHANGELOG.md)
| jhbadger wrote:
| And R releases are named after (often obscure) quotes from
| the comic strip Peanuts (current release "Eggshell Igloo")
| jetrink wrote:
| Some additional context: the editor of the manual was Sam
| Leffler, who was a coworker of Lasseter at Lucasfilm at the time.
|
| > The later, more popular versions of the BSD Daemon were drawn
| by animation director John Lasseter beginning with an early
| greyscale drawing on the cover of the Unix System Manager's
| Manual published in 1984 by USENIX for 4.2BSD.[7] Its
| author/editor Sam Leffler (who had been a technical staff member
| at CSRG) and Lasseter were both employees of Lucasfilm at the
| time. About four years after this Lasseter drew his widely known
| take on the BSD Daemon for the cover of McKusick's co-authored
| 1988 book, The Design and Implementation of the 4.3BSD Operating
| System.[8] Lasseter drew a somewhat lesser-known running BSD
| Daemon for the 4.4BSD version of the book in 1994.
|
| 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon
| divbzero wrote:
| Is there a connection between Sam Leffler the BSD contributor
| at Lucasfilm/Pixar and BSD as the basis for NeXTSTEP/OS X at
| NeXT/Apple?
|
| As far as I can tell, there is no direct connection. Sam
| Leffler contributed most to the 4.1BSD and 4.2BSD while at
| Berkeley [1], while NeXTSTEP was based on Mach which was based
| on 4.2BSD and developed by Richard Rashid and Avie Tevanian at
| Carnegie Mellon [2].
|
| Perhaps the indirect connection is that, before Linux, BSD was
| the natural choice for an open-source UNIX derivative, and
| Steve Jobs had an instinct for seeking out the leading edges of
| computing at the time.
|
| [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_J._Leffler
|
| [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel)#Development
| gen3 wrote:
| Slightly different but OpenBSD does a good job of finding
| artists, for example the artwork for 6.5 and 6.6 was drawn by
| Natasha Allegri of Adventure Time and Bee and PuppyCat
|
| https://www.openbsd.org/66.html
| brynet wrote:
| They also designed probably the best t-shirt art for an OS
| release, no longer available, sadly.
|
| https://www.openbsd.org/tshirts.html#47
|
| https://twitter.com/natazilla/status/1187896621045956608
| jimmyjazz14 wrote:
| Oh man I was just thinking that would make an awesome
| t-shirt, wish it was still available.
| dylan604 wrote:
| If you're willing to play in the darker shades or gray,
| there are plenty of websites that will print up
| posters/t-shirts/etc of any image you upload to them. Even
| as one offs. JIT of swag is a real thing now
| jimmyjazz14 wrote:
| Man that's some pretty badass BSD artwork too.
| brynet wrote:
| "Puffy vs Cthulhu" is also pretty badass.
|
| https://www.openbsd.org/images/puffy_vs_cthulhu.jpg
|
| https://twitter.com/natazilla/status/1138473365969264643
| smoldesu wrote:
| Shoutout to _Bee and Puppycat_ as well, of which the entire
| first season is freely available on YouTube:
| https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2DcNkn8HAwQLcXTiDB87...
| adzm wrote:
| Note that this is very different than the first season on
| Netflix fwiw. Both are great though!
| Decabytes wrote:
| I keep hearing more and more about OpenBSD. Lots of people
| including John Carmack, browse the source code and have nothing
| but good things to say about it. It's made me very curious to
| look at it myself
| dilippkumar wrote:
| I run OpenBSD on my laptop. I love it, but I would recommend
| that beginners read some warnings on the label.
|
| First, you will not have bluetooth. Second, it is slow in
| ways that will matter. As in, you will feel it, but not be
| annoyed by it (Especially with a web browser). Third, KDE
| plasma support is a work in progress (read: most people do
| not get KDE plasma on an OpenBSD installation today, although
| it won't stay like this forever).
|
| With these disclaimers out of the way, I can heartily
| encourage it. I love having an operating system that I can
| trust. Things work, things are well doccumented and things
| are very very clean.
| Decabytes wrote:
| I've played around with FreeBSD before and have a WiFi
| dongle from when I put it on an RPI. I have an old X220 for
| these type of experiments, but I appreciate the warning
| hoistbypetard wrote:
| That's a fair assessment. One more thing I would add is
| that things you can frequently get working on FreeBSD (like
| JetBrains IDEs) might be significantly more challenging (or
| impossible) on an OpenBSD desktop.
|
| I'm a long-time fan of OpenBSD (I started using it in 1999)
| and I strongly second reading the warnings on the label.
| orenlindsey wrote:
| Here's the book with the John Lassetter cover if anyone wants it:
| https://www.amazon.com/Design-Implementation-UNIX-Operating-...
|
| There's a "Used - Good" quality one for $4.
| colordrops wrote:
| No really related, but I wish there was a NixBSD. Would switch
| immediately.
| tmountain wrote:
| There's progress.
|
| https://discourse.nixos.org/t/openbsd-nix-is-now-a-thing/255...
| throwboatyface wrote:
| John Lasseter is a creep who was ousted from Pixar after a long
| history of sexually harassing employees:
| https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/john-las...
| packetslave wrote:
| I don't see how that's relevant.
| iwontberude wrote:
| It is interesting how the creations we cherish as a society
| become separate from the creator. Not even a creator's
| misconduct can reappropriate the art from society.
| antonchekhov wrote:
| "To reveal art and conceal the artist is art's aim." --
| Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray
| postmodest wrote:
| "Oh, this from the posing somdomite" - Wilde's
| contemporaries.
| bredren wrote:
| "The truth is rarely pure and never simple." - The
| Importance of Being Earnest
| packetslave wrote:
| I assume you refuse to use gcc, emacs, etc. because of
| their creator, refuse to use JavaScript anywhere on the
| web, never take an Uber etc.?
|
| Or is it just the cases where it's convenient to virtue
| signal?
|
| I also find it ironic that you posted a Steve Jobs quote in
| a comment recently...
| Brian_K_White wrote:
| Is this about Stallman? I don't consider him to have done
| anything wrong, and so yes I sure do use gcc, and do at
| least prefer as little js as possible though I simply
| have no control over that, and in fact never use uber,
| and specifically because of the company, even though it
| would be convenient.
|
| Of course you can't do any of this 100% because the world
| is interconnected and interdependent and countless
| infinite things are indirect.
|
| But so what? You can still care and still try and still
| exert your own one-persons share of influence, even if
| it's only avoiding Amazon when you can, instead of just
| buying everything through them.
|
| That is worth doing and 100% better than not caring and
| not bothering, and the value isn't invalidated by being
| impossible to be absolute.
| throwboatyface wrote:
| People in the thread are dropping all kinds of trivia about
| Pixar and BSD but possibly the biggest news about the subject
| of the article in the last 5 years is that he was ousted from
| his role at Pixar for sexual harassment. Feels relevant.
| whyenot wrote:
| He is an incredibly talented director and storyteller. I can
| understand why his well documented history of sexual
| misconduct may not feel relevant. Apparently, the situation
| was so bad that Disney assigned a "minder" to him to keep him
| out of trouble.
|
| On the other hand, his great creative talent should not
| diminish the fact that he was a creep of a boss if you
| happened to be female.
|
| He's a complex person. If we want to talk about the great
| things he has done, I think we should also remind ourselves
| of the bad stuff.
| karaterobot wrote:
| [delayed]
| olddustytrail wrote:
| That isn't what the article you linked says. It continually
| starts suggesting that, and then rows back to say it's not what
| actually happened.
|
| Interesting that you can't spot these things.
| throwboatyface wrote:
| He's been credibly accused by many people, it's an open
| secret in the industry, and he took a 6 month leave of
| absence and then never came back and started a new studio. Oh
| and he publicly acknowledged unspecified "missteps".
|
| For someone who's had so many successful movies you'd think
| they'd defend him to the hilt if he was innocent?
|
| https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/john-
| las...
| philwelch wrote:
| > For someone who's had so many successful movies you'd
| think they'd defend him to the hilt if he was innocent?
|
| You could make the same argument about Fatty Arbuckle, who
| was falsely accused of rape and manslaughter in the 1920's
| and completely blacklisted from Hollywood despite probably
| being completely innocent. I don't have a strong opinion
| one way or the other about Lasseter but these things are
| driven by Hollywood politics more than anything. Just look
| at how long they kept supporting Roman Polanski.
| jedberg wrote:
| If you're going to throw shade like that, at least get it
| right. He wasn't working at Pixar anymore, he was the head of
| all of Disney Animation, which included Pixar.
| whyenot wrote:
| You are half right. He was chief creative officer at both
| Walt Disney and Pixar Animation at the time he went on leave.
|
| https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2017/11/21/d.
| ..
| prewett wrote:
| Steve Jobs was a control freak, a narcissist (for at least his
| early years), colluded to drive software developer wages down,
| and treated his adopted(?) daughter poorly, yet we don't seem
| to need to talk about that every time his name comes up.
|
| Bill Gates apparently had some connection to Jeffrey Epstein
| that made his wife uncomfortable enough to divorce him, yet we
| didn't need to bring that up when his book review got posted
| yesterday.
|
| Maybe we can celebrate and enjoy the good things about a person
| without needing to continually shame them for the bad things.
| hnthrowaway0328 wrote:
| I love these materialized manuals. Do we still have them for the
| modern enterprise *nix operating systems such as Redhat and such?
| abetusk wrote:
| Not really related but the artist behind the Go(lang) mascot is
| Renee French [0] who also did Grit Bath [1]. She happens to be
| married to Rob Pike, so I assume that had something to do with
| it.
|
| [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_French
|
| [1] https://www.abebooks.com/comics/GRIT-BATH-Nos-1-3-French-
| Ren...
| bgmeister wrote:
| She also created Glenda the Plan 9 Bunny:
| https://9p.io/plan9/glenda.html
| philwelch wrote:
| I always thought that gopher had a weird creepy vibe, so I
| guess I'm not surprised at the artist's other work.
| kderbyma wrote:
| Anyone else think about the connection between OSX, Jobs, Pixar,
| etc....seems like the elite of the tech revolution all were
| neighbours as usual with industry control
| anthk wrote:
| So much control that you could get industry quality level OSes
| for free or by the cost of the CD's:
|
| -FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, GNU/Linux with slackware CD's...
|
| This is like getting avionics industry manuals and hardware for
| free and with a press of a button you could get a self-
| assembled UFO with an antigravity field by half the price of a
| car.
| jelder wrote:
| OP here. If any historians would like to see details from any
| other parts of this set, just ask.
| tw04 wrote:
| Still bugs me FreeBSD replaced Beastie, the reasoning always
| seemed silly to me. I'm hoping they'll go back to him on the next
| refresh (which is long overdue IMO).
| hghid wrote:
| There are plenty of things that I like to think I could probably
| turn my hand to and make a passable job of if I had to, but
| Illustration is not one of them. I would love to have to ability
| to visualise something and make it appear on paper like that, but
| no matter how hard I try I never will. The character and
| expression put into something that was probably a 30 minute
| sketch is quite amazing!
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