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Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024
Author : rcarmo
Score : 56 points
Date : 2024-01-15 20:14 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| givemeethekeys wrote:
| Haiku looked amazing and beautiful in 2009 when I first learned
| about it. Today it looks dated like Windows 95.
| mtillman wrote:
| Disagree strongly. I find its appearance 10X more visually
| appealing than any modern UI (win/mac/kde/etc). They're all
| incredibly wasteful of space and chunky. Also, designers ruined
| OSX by making it flat and joyless.
| mepian wrote:
| I wish modern operating systems looked like Windows 95, I think
| this was the one time Microsoft got their user experience
| right, except for the things that were forced on them by
| backward compatibility concerns, e.g. "in-band" filename
| extensions that were awkwardly hidden by later versions of
| Windows.
| Apocryphon wrote:
| That's to a certain advantage though. There's a nostalgic
| pining for simpler cleaner OS aesthetics. See the vaporwave and
| Frutiger Aero trends, and the interest in SerenityOS.
| LeoPanthera wrote:
| I could not disagree more about Windows 95 looking "dated".
| It's one the clearest, simplest, and easiest to parse UIs I've
| ever seen.
|
| Buttons look like buttons. Scroll bars are thick and clear.
| Draggable objects are obvious.
|
| It's a huge shame that we've gone only backwards since then,
| IMHO.
| paulryanrogers wrote:
| Sometimes I wonder what kids will consider a 'button' since
| their first few years will be touch screens, magic corner
| trackpads, and no-show clickers in MightyMice.
|
| Do TV remotes even have physical buttons any more?
| jbverschoor wrote:
| Enable "high contrast mode" in macOS.. buttons look like
| buttons and some more things.. The normal mode is way too
| flat / low contrast.
| Underphil wrote:
| Loved BeOS, and love HaikuOS. But a "daily driver" it is most
| certainly not. Don't be fooled.
| mtillman wrote:
| Having contributed to the project, I still agree. In my mind
| it's perfect for retirees who don't need zoom or mobile
| syncing. The browser is quite good imo as is the email client.
| I really like that it's (by default) a single user environment-
| ideal for an old laptop.
| tadfisher wrote:
| I have to try Haiku, but the last time I used BeOS everything
| effectively ran as root. Not that Unix-style user permissions
| are the epitome of OS security, but at least an RCE
| vulnerability in the browser doesn't allow for persistent root
| or whatever.
| steviedotboston wrote:
| leave it to Action Retro to lie and mislead viewers...
| ianai wrote:
| Are they known for that? They deleted a perfectly respectable
| comment of mine yesterday and I'm a bit wary.
| helloimhonk wrote:
| If it works on ones computer I dont see why it couldnt be daily
| driven depending on your needs. It has a webkit based browser,
| and a native emacs port, thats pretty much all i use day to day
| :P
| jbverschoor wrote:
| Early 2000s it was my daily driver. But man.. I used the
| filesystem like it was indented.. All my files had attributes.
| Unfortunately none of the metadata was supported on other
| platforms. Lots of wasted energy :) I loved BeOS
| ianai wrote:
| At some point/place I heard it was going to have a ribbon type
| thing flow down menus. This would help follow stuff in deep drill
| downs. Really wish someone had done it.
|
| https://store.kde.org/s/Opendesktop/p/1080563/
|
| Personally, I think this OS has promise if it could get more
| modernization. It'd be nice to have another OSS GUI with some
| leanings into UI/UX.
|
| Edit-modernizations like cross compatibility with linux, would be
| my guess. Think linux subsystem with gui support? Wonder what
| else...
| zie wrote:
| I tried to use it as my mail client, I loaded it up and
| configured it, but it wasn't working. I did some very basic
| troubleshooting but couldn't find anything wrong and after a few
| web searches couldn't figure out how to find relevant logs to see
| what was broken.
|
| I gave up and moved on.
| chrsw wrote:
| In terms of foundations and principles Haiku OS is more of a
| coherent platform that anything on the Linux desktop attests to
| be at the moment. In terms practicality, hardware support and a
| size of software ecosystem it is still very minor compared to
| Linux, which I find unfortunate.
| nightowl_games wrote:
| These two things are linked.
| tombert wrote:
| I remember hearing about Haiku about a decade ago, and I played
| with it in a virtual machine, and it seemed neat, but I'm not
| 100% sure why it buys you over anything else. This could just
| have been the virtual machine, but it didn't feel any faster than
| any other OS really, and the UI was fine, but kind of
| unremarkable to me.
|
| I'm not saying all this to crap on the project; is there actually
| an advantage to using Haiku in 2024 over, say, Linux?
| christkv wrote:
| An os that nobody is writing zero day exploits for ?
| tombert wrote:
| Yeah, and everyone is looking for the next "distraction-
| free!" setup, so I suppose it might accomplish that to some
| extent as well.
| ianai wrote:
| It boots really fast. And the UI on some linux DEs feels laggy
| at times. This shouldn't have the decades of cruft making the
| GUI lag.
| Conscat wrote:
| In 2023, Haiku got Emacs and Vulkan support that makes it much
| more attractive to me than in the past. But I still feel very
| reluctant to use something without the industry support that
| Linux has.
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