[HN Gopher] Kids of parents making $158.2-222.4k/yr have worst o...
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       Kids of parents making $158.2-222.4k/yr have worst odds of Ivy
       League acceptance
        
       Author : Geekette
       Score  : 12 points
       Date   : 2024-01-14 21:23 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | amluto wrote:
       | Moderators, the link is corrupt. It's presumably meant to be:
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       | https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/college-acceptance-r...
        
       | tester756 wrote:
       | >Roughly a quarter of the admissions advantage stems from athlete
       | recruitment: Other studies reveal that athletes tend to hail from
       | high-income families. Years of access to private lessons, club
       | sports, better facilities, and niche teams (water polo, golf,
       | squash, fencing) make a bigger difference than most people
       | realize. The final 31 percent of the very-rich advantage comes
       | from colleges judging these children to be stronger in
       | nonacademic categories. That makes sense since they have greater
       | access to extracurricular activities and leadership opportunities
       | 
       | On one hand using anything other than final, school leaving,
       | standardized at country-level exams that are fair and transparent
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       | feels like wanting to introduce shitton of bias and lack of
       | fairness and transparency
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       | but on the other hand pure academic capability/output isn't
       | perfect proxy for success and it seems like fancy higher edu
       | institutions want to 'create' successful people, right?
       | 
       | ehh, while im standing behind #1 option, then #2 aint stupid
       | 
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       | >Marie currently attends a university that did not make the U.S.
       | News & World Report list of top-50 public schools. Amanda tells
       | me, "She's happy but often says, 'Mom, I just wish I hadn't
       | studied. I would have gotten into the exact same schools.'" And
       | Marie is probably right.
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       | This is fucking sad, imo.
       | 
       | She didnt teach her the purpose of eduction, of studying, what
       | the hell.
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       | You don't study to get better grades, to get better scores, to
       | get to better school.
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       | That's just a means to an end
        
       | nothercastle wrote:
       | Not rich enough to get an economic advantage or poor enough to
       | get Diversity priority.
        
       | voicedYoda wrote:
       | But i don't want my kids going to ivy League. I want them to
       | study what they need to know, have fun, and explore. We aren't
       | rich, and they know that, and that level of stuffy education
       | would be better in graduate or post grad, when they pay you to
       | study there.
        
         | whateveracct wrote:
         | That was my conclusion as teen too. I went to in-state to a
         | Big-10 school with one of the automatic merit scholarships
         | based on ACT/SAT scores. Still got a great job out of college
         | and moved out west to work at a FAANG (they recruited at my
         | university). Pretty much a top outcome money wise I would've
         | gotten at MIT (where I did get in).
        
       | gumby wrote:
       | > She went on to explain that the couple didn't make enough money
       | to be considered potential donors
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       | When my kid went to college the development office started
       | shmoozing before said kid had even chosen his classes.
        
         | gertop wrote:
         | Is that an humble brag?
        
           | gumby wrote:
           | Not intended as so (and anyway I am not a likely donor). I
           | was just surprised that they didn't waste a moment and got
           | right down to it.
        
       | gumby wrote:
       | > I will tell you they have no fucking chance of getting in
       | anywhere unless they have a legacy.
       | 
       | What about schools that don't do legacies, like MIT?
        
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