[HN Gopher] What I learned selling my company
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       What I learned selling my company
        
       Author : hglaser
       Score  : 71 points
       Date   : 2024-01-12 23:24 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | mbesto wrote:
       | Work in M&A. Have been involved in 500+ M&A deals and also sold a
       | company. These are very good insights!
        
         | kwerk wrote:
         | Great validation. What (maybe more nuanced) insights would you
         | add?
        
       | stagger87 wrote:
       | Can anyone explain the statement "most M&A fails"? In what way?
       | 
       | Edit: Nvm, I found some sources for this claim.
        
         | thenerdhead wrote:
         | In many ways. Like adjusting to the new company's culture. In
         | staying the relevant length to exercise options. In producing
         | at a similar caliber prior to acquisition. The list goes on and
         | on.
        
         | ozim wrote:
         | It is there in the paragraph: failed integration, a ton of
         | employee churn, and/or a series of missed targets.
        
       | gumby wrote:
       | > M&A is one of two ways a pot of gold happens.
       | 
       | I don't know what the second one he has in mind is; the some of
       | the ones I know are:
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       | 1 - operate a profitable business that throws off a ton of cash
       | (these can be huge, like Koch, Cargill, Aldi, and can make long
       | term employees extremely, and privately, rich).
       | 
       | 2 - sell part of your company to the public (IPO)
       | 
       | 3 - sell the whole company (M&A)
       | 
       | 4 - spin out or sell off a division (a kind of M&A)
       | 
       | One major disadvantage of 2-4 is that other people tend to hear
       | about it.
        
         | fairity wrote:
         | > One major disadvantage of 2-4 is that other people tend to
         | hear about it
         | 
         | I don't doubt this, but I'm curious: why do you see the
         | publicity as a disadvantage?
        
           | throwup238 wrote:
           | A parasite's best chance of survival is to avoid discovery.
        
             | gumby wrote:
             | Running a profitable business with happy customers is
             | parasitical? I thought that was for PE and hedge fund
             | clowns.
        
           | gumby wrote:
           | Why on earth would you _want_ to let someone know that you
           | had a big payout? It 's none of anybody else's business how
           | much money I have and if nobody knows you can walk downtown
           | in peace, go to restaurants, hang out with your same friends,
           | and still have lovely ski or yacht holidays in peace.
           | 
           | The Bay Area and Seattle have quite a few "unknown"
           | billionares. For example if you had less than 5% of Microsoft
           | when it IPOd you were not listed in the S-1, and if you hung
           | on by the mid 90s you could have been worth 8-9 figures.
        
         | mjr00 wrote:
         | The second one the author had in mind is almost certainly IPO.
         | 
         | Your (1) isn't a pot of gold in the colloquial sense of
         | "suddenly finding a life-changing amount of money". Running a
         | profitable business is ideal, especially in a post-ZIRP world,
         | but it almost never culminates in a single "all my hard work
         | has paid off, I can take it easy now" moment like IPO or
         | acquisition.
        
           | gumby wrote:
           | > Running a profitable business is ideal, especially in a
           | post-ZIRP world, but it almost never culminates in a single
           | "all my hard work has paid off, I can take it easy now"
           | moment
           | 
           | That first time you pay yourself $20MM sure feels like that,
           | and repurchasing from your employees or paying out large
           | bonuses sure can for them too.
           | 
           | > like IPO or acquisition.
           | 
           | Have you been through either? "Take it easy now" is the
           | opposite of what happens in an IPO -- you're now subject to
           | the scrutiny of the financial press, SEC, and random
           | shareholders when before you could send monthly updates to
           | your board. And unless you avoided an earn-out in your
           | acquisition, the slog just continues.
        
       | cj wrote:
       | > I was advised that 50% of signed LOIs actually close. I bet
       | it's less. You will see the LOI and dream of trading stress for
       | riches. Remember: Less than 50% chance of closing.
       | 
       | 100%
       | 
       | Which is why I hate that exclusivity is industry standard.
       | 
       | It feels exploitative that acquirers can demand exclusivity in a
       | deal when the chances of it closing are less than 80%.
       | 
       | Imagine selling a house and taking it off the market because you
       | got an offer with a 50% chance of actually closing 3 months
       | later.
       | 
       | Even worse, most acquirers will say "nope" if you ask them to
       | cover your legal fees if they back out of the deal.
       | 
       | This happens because sellers of companies only sell 1 or 2
       | companies in their lifetime, while buyers of companies typically
       | do dozens and dozens of transactions. There's an extreme power
       | imbalance in favor of acquirers. Most sellers learn these lessons
       | the hard way.
        
         | aidos wrote:
         | Not to diminish your point, but you've described the UK housing
         | market where that's exactly how it works.
        
       | heads wrote:
       | > _Deciders on M &A [do] not include the VP corp dev or the corp
       | dev managers. Those are good relationships to have, but they
       | don't initiate large offers._
       | 
       | What is corp dev's role then?
       | 
       | Maybe they like an in house recruiter: they conduct negotiations
       | and ease the process by meeting with both parties, but the
       | yay/nay decisions are made by the hiring manager?
        
         | caseysoftware wrote:
         | No, they're less recruiters or negotiators and more as scouts.
         | 
         | They are supposed to go out and find interesting things in (or
         | adjacent to) your space, get to know them, understand how they
         | measure up among their peers and competitors, and bring all
         | that information back to the company.
         | 
         | They're all waiting for the company - usually the CEO, CPO, or
         | CRO - to say something like "we have a need for X."
         | 
         | Background: I was at Okta through the Stormpath, Azuqua, and
         | Auth0 acquisitions. I didn't have a role in any beyond knowing
         | the M&A team and observing it throughout.
        
       | lhh wrote:
       | All great points!
       | 
       | If anyone is interested in how things tend to work if you're
       | trying to proactively sell a company (especially a profitable
       | one), I put together a write up a while back:
       | https://www.fivecastfinancial.com/guides/how-selling-a-compa...
       | 
       | (I used to be an M&A advisor - no longer!)
        
       | bmitc wrote:
       | > People often get into startups because of the chance for a pot
       | of gold at the end of the rainbow.
       | 
       | At least someone's finally honest about it. Startup culture is in
       | general a blight.
        
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