[HN Gopher] Effortless AI: No-Code Automation Using N8n Cloud an...
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Effortless AI: No-Code Automation Using N8n Cloud and OpenAI Vision
API
Author : crazytest
Score : 40 points
Date : 2024-01-11 18:50 UTC (4 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (n8n-automation.com)
| splitrocket wrote:
| So, this is interesting, but much more interesting is the
| langchain stuff N8N has added to their latest release. Makes it
| seamless to add in an army of interns to your workflow.
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| https://n8n.io/langchain/
| crazytest wrote:
| You're right. The Langchain integration is great, but you need
| an extra account for it. But it is actually in the backlog to
| write a tutorial about whats possible with Langchain too.
| janober wrote:
| fyi, a separate account should not be necessary any more as
| the functionality got integrated into the regular version and
| is so available for all users by default.
| crazytest wrote:
| great news! haven't seen it as I had to update my workspace
| manually, but just did it.
| artur_makly wrote:
| what are some useful use cases startup entrepreneurs?
| crazytest wrote:
| I guess there are a lot. If you build a great UI you can use a
| workflow like this to score presentation slides or whatever you
| like
| soco wrote:
| Do I need to read the entire article to find out what the
| tutorial is actually aiming to achieve? That's not very helpful
| to the beginner it's supposed to serve...
| crazytest wrote:
| Thanks for the valuable feedback. Just added a paragraph under
| the head picture to make clear what it is exactly about. Is
| this helpful or would you do it in another way?
| QuadrupleA wrote:
| Automate what? What's n8n? And how no-code/ effortless is it if
| I'm deciding between base64 encoded images vs url images, REST vs
| GraphQL API, etc. in the first few paragraphs with no background
| info on how to make those choices?
| crazytest wrote:
| Thanks for the feedback. I was not sure in what detail I should
| go, but decided to name the options and make an easy choice to
| go for if you follow along the tutorial. If you then decide you
| want to dive deeper, you can dig into the documentation of e.g.
| OpenAI. I definitely should link to for example the article
| where I go into detail about HTTP Requests and what they are,
| but I could not fit it into the article itself.
| alwa wrote:
| Even after clicking around the product pages a little, I'm afraid
| I still don't understand what an n8n is or what it's seeking to
| automate. Is "n8n" a colloquialism amongst front-end people, like
| "i18n" or "a11y"? And as to "automation," I'm guessing from
| context that this is like a Zapier kind of product?
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| And that the present announcement is that this product has an
| integration with OpenAI Vision API now, provided you're willing
| to store your API keys in the open?
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| I'm surprised to see it characterized as "no-code" but then
| require HTTP headers to be entered by hand, and a valid JSON
| payload to be hand-built to send over to the relevant OpenAI API.
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| The broader concept, though, seems cool. I can imagine the sort
| of visual, business-side-person kind of power user who might have
| a lot of fun playing with this type of workflow tool.
| crazytest wrote:
| n8n is the tool that is used to build the automation shown in
| the tutorial, leveraging the OpenAI Vision API. That is
| possible because it offers quite an open way to make HTTP
| Requests, using the node for it. Yes, you need to define a
| valid JSON as an input for the API, but I would still consider
| it way more beginner-friendly than using the SDKs where you
| would have to write "real" code and care about deployment and
| executions.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| n8n is a direct Zapier competitor with source available ("fair
| code license"), https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=janober is
| the founder.
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| Lots of interesting ways to extend workflow systems involving
| LLMs and interfaces to them.
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| https://docs.n8n.io/choose-n8n/faircode-license/
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| https://hn.algolia.com/?q=n8n
| tmcneal wrote:
| I'm not quite sure how n8n works after reading the docs, but our
| company Reflect provides an AI-driven approach to automation that
| may be similar, but for a more narrower use-case: automated end-
| to-end testing.
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| You can see a video example of how it works in our docs here
| (https://reflect.run/docs/recording-tests/testing-with-ai/), but
| the idea is that you describe the actions and assertions you want
| to take in plain-text prompts, and the AI interprets those
| prompts in real time and executes them against a running browser
| session. In practice, it's a lot like writing a manual test
| script and having it automatically execute. We use both GPT 3.5
| and 4 and will be releasing Vision support once OpenAI has deemed
| the gpt-4-turbo-with-vision model ready for production use.
| crazytest wrote:
| actually, that is what it is about, that it is not a narrower
| use-case, and you can extend and change the workflows however
| you like them. but an interesting way to present your own
| company. Seems like you are doing something similar to what
| https://www.octomind.dev/ is doing, right?
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