[HN Gopher] Microsoft poised to overtake Apple as most valuable ...
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       Microsoft poised to overtake Apple as most valuable company
        
       Author : ortusdux
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2024-01-07 20:25 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (appleinsider.com)
        
       | FirmwareBurner wrote:
       | _> analysts expectation of slowing iPhone demand_
       | 
       | Has Apple considered making decent phones at budget prices for a
       | change?
       | 
       | Something in the Samsung A34-A54 ~EUR300 price range.
       | 
       | There's only so many people willing to spend EUR1k+ on a phone
       | these days.
        
         | notyourwork wrote:
         | Fewer skus seems like a massive simplifier to me. The SE and
         | the mini seem to me like their "cheaper" line. I love my iPhone
         | 13 mini for form factor.
        
           | FirmwareBurner wrote:
           | Have you ever compared the low-res dim IPS display of a
           | EUR400+ SE to the much cheaper Samsung A34/A54 that ship with
           | bright 1080p OLED high refresh displays with 128GB to boot?
           | It's not even a competition.
           | 
           | And yes the display matters the most to most consumers as
           | that's the primary interface the user has to the phone. A
           | small dim 720p IPS display doesn't cut it anymore in 2024
           | especially at EUR400+ price point where Android competition
           | eats it.
           | 
           |  _> Fewer skus seems like a massive simplifier to me_
           | 
           | What use is fewer SKUs if nobody is buying them?
           | 
           | Nobody in my country(not USA where iPhone is king due to
           | iMessage lock-in and high income) is buying the SE because at
           | that price it's terrible value for money compared to the
           | competition. Everyone is buying mid priced Androids and those
           | with money buy the Pro iPhone but never the SE because it's
           | just shit value.
           | 
           | Apple needs to replace the SE with something more modern with
           | bigger OLED and then it will sell.
        
             | notyourwork wrote:
             | Not sure Apple is targeting your market segment then.
             | Clearly they are doing something right considering their
             | revenue, value and performance. The 13 mini has an oled
             | display, not sure what you're disagreeing with.
        
             | timeon wrote:
             | I'm not from US but I bought SE. Not sure about situation
             | now as it was ~5 years ago and it still works.
        
             | yftsui wrote:
             | SE 3rd gen is a great small phone, not sure why you say its
             | screen is dim. Glad Samsung worked out for you, that's the
             | benefit of competition. It's good that Apple wasn't able to
             | grip all segments of the market.
        
         | 1over137 wrote:
         | >Has Apple considered making decent phones at budget prices for
         | a change?
         | 
         | No. In their entire history, they've hardly ever cared about
         | the low end.
        
         | KRAKRISMOTT wrote:
         | iPads are cheap and provides great value
        
       | notyourwork wrote:
       | Not surprised, where Apple has concentrated brand and product
       | line value, Microsoft has breadth of business.
       | 
       | Apple has the i-line of products, MacBooks and "services".
       | Microsoft has desktop, devices, games, cloud. It's no surprise to
       | me.
        
       | ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
       | If Apple disappears tomorrow, the world will be at a loss.
       | 
       | If Microsoft disappears tomorrow, no one will bat an eyelid.
        
         | lwhi wrote:
         | How do you figure this?
        
       | voiceblue wrote:
       | [delayed]
        
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