[HN Gopher] Fixing Macs door to door
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       Fixing Macs door to door
        
       Author : jnord
       Score  : 881 points
       Date   : 2024-01-05 22:41 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | JieJie wrote:
       | My favorite bit, "Threats quickly lost their power when you
       | realized nobody at any point had asked your name or any
       | information about yourself. It's hard to threaten an anonymous
       | person."
        
         | rofrol wrote:
         | I don't get this part. Thet could just phone Apple and complain
         | about some contractor and Apple could get his name from some
         | records.
        
           | LeonM wrote:
           | > They could just phone Apple
           | 
           | That's the thing. Once they realise that they have to put
           | effort in it, the threats stop.
        
             | Cthulhu_ wrote:
             | Exactly, they wouldn't complain themselves or even make the
             | initial call themselves, they'd have a personal assistant
             | do it, and whether or not they do is arbitrary because they
             | won't check, not important.
        
         | pcthrowaway wrote:
         | Mine was
         | 
         | > As smartphones became more of a thing, the number of "please
         | spy on my teen" requests exploded. These varied from installing
         | basically spyware on their kids laptops to attempting to
         | install early MDM software on the kids iPhones. I was always
         | uncomfortable with these jobs, in large part because the teens
         | were extremely mean to me. One girl waited until her mom left
         | the room to casually turn to me and say "I will pay you $500 to
         | lie to my mom and say you set this up".
         | 
         | > I was offended that this 15 year old thought she could buy
         | me, in large part because she was correct. I took the $500 and
         | told the mom the tracking software was all set up. She nodded
         | and told me she would check that it was working and "call me
         | back if it wasn't". I knew she was never going to check, so
         | that part didn't spook me. I just hoped the kid didn't get
         | kidnapped or something and I would end up on the evening news.
         | But I was also a little short that month for rent so what can
         | you do.
        
           | JKCalhoun wrote:
           | His boss was indeed a bad judge of character.
        
       | brian_herman wrote:
       | Good story.
        
       | muppetman wrote:
       | I love this. It's written for the hell of it. Not to get likes,
       | or people to subscribe, or buy a product or show off technical
       | prowess. It's just writing to share - Oldschool Internet content.
       | 
       | [Not that there's anything wrong with the things I mentioned - I
       | just mean it's refreshing to see something not written with an
       | obvious motive. Gah. I still sound like a wanker.]
        
         | doubleg72 wrote:
         | I came here to say exactly this.. what a nice, refreshing read.
        
           | quickthrower2 wrote:
           | Real world person. Rare animal.
        
         | op00to wrote:
         | The vignettes were the perfect length for casual consumption.
         | Little bite sized snacks.
        
         | davkan wrote:
         | Great read. I was wondering why it felt so familiar to me and
         | it dawned on me it's like a cross between my past jobs of
         | internal it support and ems. I miss going into houses and
         | businesses around my area on a daily basis, and driving around
         | all parts of the city. I remember back when I first
         | transitioned into an office job how isolated it made me feel
         | from community. If the pay was remotely equivalent I'd consider
         | dropping my remote sysadmin gig for a job like the author's.
        
         | fragmede wrote:
         | You could imagine a Patreon link at the bottom with "if you
         | liked these stories" hook to get you to pay money if it would
         | make you feel better.
        
       | dylanzhangdev wrote:
       | interesting
        
       | AntiRush wrote:
       | It reminds me of this book:
       | 
       | https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374602581/laserwriterii
        
         | rashkov wrote:
         | Oh cool, I've been meaning to check this out ever since I saw
         | her do a reading from a new book of hers. Her family runs a
         | pretty well known restaurant in the city with a 900 item menu
         | (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopsin%27s). Maybe she talks
         | about in the book. Thanks for the reminder.
        
       | CoastalCoder wrote:
       | Well written, but man it leaves me kind of depressed. Maybe that
       | speaks to the power of the writing.
        
         | adamomada wrote:
         | > When I got out and realized it was dark, I started to accept
         | something bad was likely about to happen to me.
         | 
         | This was the only part that really got me. I have visited a few
         | major US cities but never really lived there, but now I'm
         | wondering how common it is for American city dwellers to be
         | afraid of the dark.
        
           | nocoiner wrote:
           | Entirely place dependent, these days (30-50 years ago, crime
           | was seriously pretty bad). I live in a huge American city,
           | and I have virtually no fear of personal or property crime
           | when I'm out at night. But in many cases, if I shifted my
           | path a half mile in a different direction, it'd be a
           | different story.
           | 
           | Like anywhere, I would suppose, being aware of your
           | surroundings, keeping your wits and not making yourself into
           | an easy target will go a very long way to keeping you safe.
        
             | rmason wrote:
             | Its very important to know the area. Because I grew up in
             | Detroit I know where to go and where not to go. Downtown
             | the billionaire Dan Gilbert owns a huge chunk of buildings.
             | He has his own security force and cameras literally
             | covering every square inch. It's worth it to know exactly
             | where those cameras end because the criminals do and that
             | is where you are most often to encounter them.
        
               | Nextgrid wrote:
               | Keep in mind that cameras don't mean anything in today's
               | world because law enforcement doesn't care about any
               | crime short of a murder.
               | 
               | Maybe cameras still have a chilling effect on law-abiding
               | people but criminals have since wisened up to it.
        
             | jon-wood wrote:
             | I'm not sure this is true anywhere. I live in a moderately
             | sized UK city, and have done most of my life. There's
             | nowhere in the city that I would intentionally avoid at
             | night due to the risk of bad things happening to me, many
             | decades ago a friend and I were mugged by a large group of
             | teenagers, and that was in what's widely considered a good
             | part of the city. At the same time I've walked through what
             | are considered rough areas late at night on the regular and
             | never had anything more threatening happen than drunks
             | stumbling about the place.
             | 
             | The only thing I can think of here is that I'm a fairly
             | heavyset 6'1" male, who wears chunky jackets most of the
             | time. Maybe trouble sees me coming and decides it's not
             | worth the hassle (which is for the record hilarious to me,
             | I've been in two fights in my life, and got my ass kicked
             | both times).
        
           | dghlsakjg wrote:
           | Not an American city thing. It's a bad neighborhood while
           | carrying an iMac box thing.
           | 
           | There's plenty of cities worldwide with rough neighborhoods
           | where I would absolutely not want to be lugging apple branded
           | stuff through at night.
        
             | FirmwareBurner wrote:
             | That's why I feel safer rocking Chinese branded
             | electronics. Who's gonna rob my Lenovo and OnePlus?
        
               | ponector wrote:
               | Junkie can. They will hit you first and then figure out
               | what is in the box.
        
               | FirmwareBurner wrote:
               | Luckily there's no junkies in my area.
        
             | Joeri wrote:
             | Even by day it can be harrowing. By far the sweatiest walk
             | home I've ever had was the 20 minute walk carrying home my
             | 5K iMac through the outskirts of a less than fancy
             | neighborhood. They wrapped it in nondescript cardboard to
             | conceal, but the shape unmistakably said "new iMac
             | walking". It didn't help that it was a warm day and those
             | 5Ks are deceptively big and heavy. Shouldn't have cheaped
             | out on calling a cab.
        
               | PaulRobinson wrote:
               | I once bought a new laptop and walked out of the shop
               | realising I had walked into a riot of Millwall football
               | fans facing down Greater Manchester Police's finest
               | (including dogs and horses).
               | 
               | I and the laptop got out unscathed thanks to me knowing
               | shortcuts and back streets.
               | 
               | Fun times.
        
           | NoZebra120vClip wrote:
           | I'm quite unafraid to roam around my own neighborhood, even
           | though it's quite rough, because it's densely populated, and
           | so there are plenty of other locals passing by at any given
           | time. The scary thing about nighttime in a big urban area, is
           | when you're in a strange neighborhood and you're not known as
           | a local, and you don't know the gang scene there, or ethnic
           | culture is different or whatever. So yeah, carrying around a
           | conspicuously expensive box of electronics will get you
           | noticed in those situations.
           | 
           | I'm fairly standoffish and I'm wise to a lot of the soft
           | street scams that individuals tend to use. So I'm not likely
           | to attract someone who will bully or mug me or rough me up.
           | I've literally never had it happen to me.
           | 
           | One time I did make a lot of friends on the bus ride home,
           | when I'd been to Fry's Electronics to purchase a large and
           | ostentatious Corsair computer enclosure. It was literally
           | nothing else but the enclosure, so no appreciable
           | electronics, but there was no bag large enough to conceal it,
           | and so the other passengers sat up and took notice of that.
           | Of course, that was in daytime, going through some relatively
           | calm neighborhoods.
           | 
           | I'm usually found on the way to or from a train station
           | around here; train stations are fairly well-regarded as
           | patrolled and safer than the surrounding environs, so it's
           | sort of like getting home free when I end up there.
        
             | raisedbyninjas wrote:
             | Yes, the big electronics box was a target. No thanks, I'll
             | help myself to a black trash bag and drag it around like a
             | crazy person.
        
       | _fzslm wrote:
       | mad perspectives. being a tech frontliner you saw so much. in
       | fame, in lives of excess. amazing hearing from your perspective
       | how the wealthy think and live. one of the best articles i've
       | read on the web in a long time, thank you for writing it.
        
         | op00to wrote:
         | There's a certain type of person who looks for enterprise type
         | it contractors over Craigslist. A bizarre combination of money
         | and insanity that usually makes for a fun time.
        
       | luciapiton wrote:
       | Interesting read. It reminded me of "Do Things That Don't Scale"
       | https://paulgraham.com/ds.html
       | 
       | I just didn't get the part where he says teens are mean to him,
       | but the only example is where a teen made his job easier...
       | 
       | > I was always uncomfortable with these jobs, in large part
       | because the teens were extremely mean to me. One girl waited
       | until her mom left the room to casually turn to me and say "I
       | will pay you $500 to lie to my mom and say you set this up".
       | 
       | > I was offended that this 15 year old thought she could buy me,
       | in large part because she was correct. I took the $500 and told
       | the mom the tracking software was all set up.
        
         | OldGuyInTheClub wrote:
         | A guess: The teen sized him up as needing money, intuited how
         | much, and offered it in a show of power.
        
         | xboxnolifes wrote:
         | Probably less about _what_ was said, and more _how_ I 'd
         | imagine an entitled teen might act and say things.
        
         | Cacti wrote:
         | the kid called him cheap and/or poor in the straight-forward
         | way you talk about someone's hair color.
        
         | raisedbyninjas wrote:
         | Mean teens and the bribing teen are separate anecdotes. Most
         | teens are unhappy with a stranger rifling through their phone,
         | especially somebody installing spyware. Those are the mean
         | teens.
        
       | wutangisforever wrote:
       | It was enlightening to learn about obscure parts of the Mac
       | repair world and to ponder the lives of all the people you met.
       | 
       | Awesome article
        
       | idlephysicist wrote:
       | I love these well written, slyly comical in a dry way, articles.
        
       | OldGuyInTheClub wrote:
       | Thought provoking article. I like to think I acknowledge the
       | people I call for services, at least to the extent they want the
       | conversation. I'm sure there are many more in daily life I don't
       | notice but whose work makes my world go around.
       | 
       | The anecdotes about the rich in Chicago match the ones I hear
       | about the rich in California. The divide is nearly complete.
        
         | Neil44 wrote:
         | It's just an awkward social situation, and most people just
         | want to be left to get on with their work when they're on the
         | clock.
        
           | jtbayly wrote:
           | Agreed. The divide might be real, but when I've done this
           | sort of work I _want_ to be viewed as the furniture by most
           | people so I didn 't have to spend effort on awkward
           | conversations. And I never even dealt with rich people like
           | this.
        
           | OldGuyInTheClub wrote:
           | Building a list of good, reliable service people that one can
           | go to in the future takes effort. Some want the minimum, some
           | like a little give-and-take. Getting that balance is tricky.
           | Becoming known as a good customer can help in some cases both
           | for later work and referrals to other specialists.
        
       | ungamedplayer wrote:
       | This was eerily similar to my experience about 5 years prior. My
       | experience was in Australia on the software side. Down to the
       | same equipment, same style people, same style interaction with
       | apple.
        
         | ace2358 wrote:
         | As an Aussie, I'm curious to hear the stories! I don't know
         | much about Chicago!
        
       | gumby wrote:
       | He writes well. This is the blog post I'd _really_ like to read:
       | 
       | > Like all of my bosses early on, his primary quality was he was
       | a bad judge of character.
        
       | intrasight wrote:
       | That was the most fun thing I've read all year. I know we're not
       | very far into the year but I do read a lot.
       | 
       | Just an example about a parent requesting tracking be installed
       | on her daughter's phone
       | 
       | "One girl waited until her mom left the room to casually turn to
       | me and say 'I will pay you $500 to lie to my mom and say you set
       | this up'."
       | 
       | I was offended that this 15 year old thought she could buy me, in
       | large part because she was correct."
       | 
       | Part of what made this such a fun read is knowing it's 100% all
       | true.
        
         | rnk wrote:
         | Yeah that was a great anecdote, I was going to post the same
         | story! Parent pays you to install spyware , rich kid pays you
         | not to install spyware, double payment for nothing.
        
         | Cyphase wrote:
         | s/year. I know we're not very far into the year but I do read a
         | lot./week, and I read a lot./
         | 
         | FTFY ;)
        
       | gregorvand wrote:
       | Pretty sure a friend around 2014 had one of these callouts for
       | their Mac Pro tower in NYC. This article just reminded me that
       | even happened. thanks for writing!
        
       | rfrey wrote:
       | >I was offended that this 15 year old thought she could buy me,
       | in large part because she was correct. I took the $500 and told
       | the mom the tracking software was all set up. She nodded and told
       | me she would check that it was working and "call me back if it
       | wasn't". I knew she was never going to check, so that part didn't
       | spook me. I just hoped the kid didn't get kidnapped or something
       | 
       | I'm not sure why he didn't take the $500 _and_ set up the
       | software on the little punk 's phone.
        
         | woleium wrote:
         | If she will pay 500 she will pay 1000. Dude should have held
         | out for more.
        
           | Infernal wrote:
           | My thought exactly.
        
         | wwweston wrote:
         | How does a teenager have access to $500 they haven't spent and
         | can spend without their parents knowing (especially the kind of
         | parents who'd want tracking on their kids phones)?
        
           | Brybry wrote:
           | My relatives regularly gave me cash for holidays and
           | birthdays. And if your parents ever gave you cash for
           | anything it's easy enough to not spend _all_ of it and save
           | some.
           | 
           | I probably usually had >$300 in my bedroom as a teenager (and
           | more saved in a bank account).
           | 
           | Also the kid can lie about what they spent it on. Or steal
           | their parents'/siblings' money. Mistakes that lead to
           | important life lessons.
        
           | Cacti wrote:
           | Giving your kid $50 is hard. Giving your kid $500 after you
           | just gave them $50 is easy.
        
           | selimthegrim wrote:
           | I have seen teenagers in New Orleans partying with American
           | Express platinum cards in their name.
        
           | bombcar wrote:
           | I wasn't rich by any stretch of the imagination, but I could
           | have had acquired $500 with a bit of planning in the 90s, and
           | did, multiple times.
        
           | pbhjpbhj wrote:
           | Possibly dealing drugs (or prostitution), hence not wanting
           | parents to access their messages? The highschools in my small
           | UK city that are known for having drug problems are the ones
           | with the richer kids.
           | 
           | It seems like poor kids have to get in to crime first to
           | afford drugs, richer kids can just use their pocket money.
           | YMMV.
        
         | carlosjobim wrote:
         | > I'm not sure why he didn't take the $500 and set up the
         | software on the little punk's phone.
         | 
         | Because you shouldn't spy on people?
        
         | cynicalsecurity wrote:
         | It's evil to setup such software for kids. It's going to damage
         | their mental health hundred times more than any potential harm
         | the phone will do.
        
       | pomian wrote:
       | What a great story. This is the kind of writing I encourage many
       | of my retired friends to try. Start by a few short anecdotes and
       | stories of things or people you remember. Even though we are not
       | Cicero, our history has changed dramatically in our life times
       | (maybe it was always like this?) Many of them have lived thorough
       | some interesting part of history and witnessed social and
       | cultural, technical, change that will be very interesting in the
       | future. Imagine the characters, the anecdotes, the humor, the
       | disaster that retired: teachers, farmers, mechanics, doctors, and
       | so on, can tell.
        
       | aorth wrote:
       | Hah! I did the same thing for a few years in the early 2000s, but
       | I wasn't affiliated with Apple and just did upgrades, fixes, etc.
       | I rode my bike all over town and charged by the hour. I had all
       | my tools and wallet of CDs for all kinds of stuff with me. Good
       | times!
        
       | moneywoes wrote:
       | what an enjoyable read
       | 
       | i felt as if i was teleported to the OPs job
        
       | tomcam wrote:
       | Excellent title, better article. This described worlds I didn't
       | know existed.
        
       | wesleyhadnot wrote:
       | they should fix windows systems door to door, they would make a
       | lot more money.
        
         | Cacti wrote:
         | they do. for like 30 years now.
        
       | jacamera wrote:
       | Great story! This had me confused though:
       | 
       | > Often I'd show up only to tell them their hard drive was dead
       | and everything was gone. This was just how things worked before
       | iCloud Photos, nobody kept backups and everything was constantly
       | lost forever.
       | 
       | Why not suggest sending the drive off to a recovery service? They
       | certainly existed back then, wealthy clients could afford it, and
       | you could add a nice markup.
        
         | Our_Benefactors wrote:
         | Expensive (even for the wealthy, a lot of the time), not
         | guaranteed to work, inviting more ire if it doesn't work.
        
           | ThePowerOfFuet wrote:
           | Doesn't help you now, but often data recovery companies such
           | as DriveSavers only charge a fee if they are successful.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | Yeah. Not photos at the time but I've lost inadequately
           | backed up hard drives at a time when online backups and
           | external drives weren't really a thing. Annoying but not
           | something I was going to spend thousands of dollars to _try_
           | to get recovered.
        
             | jacamera wrote:
             | Same, personally. But I also did on-site tech support in
             | the same era and would always give customers the option if
             | they had a drive I couldn't recover. Honestly seems
             | negligent to me not to. On several occasions they opted to
             | spend the ~$1,000 to recover their family photos, business
             | documents, or other important files and were always
             | extremely happy when it worked. These were not
             | exceptionally wealthy people either.
        
       | psyclobe wrote:
       | Great read
        
       | busterarm wrote:
       | This takes me back. Way back in like 2004-2006 or so I was
       | working a computer repair desk at a big retailer and did a ton of
       | side business. The side business honestly paid more than my job
       | did.
       | 
       | I would travel around NYC fixing things for mostly clueless
       | people. People attempting to screw me on payment was common. The
       | frequent move was to offer drugs or sex in lieu of payment after
       | the work was done. The only sane response to this though was to
       | tell them to just pay what they could afford and then get out of
       | there as fast as possible.
       | 
       | I had a few rich and famous clients. It was a fun time, but I got
       | tired of taking long, extended train rides after a full day of
       | work only to do more work and have a long train ride home.
        
         | wkat4242 wrote:
         | I did that too, worked for a computer shop and often got hired
         | by clients.
         | 
         | Never got offered sex on lieu of payment unfortunately, I would
         | have taken it :) Nor drugs but I don't do those.
        
           | KennyBlanken wrote:
           | It's almost never the attractive, talented, or regularly-
           | tested-for-STIs-and-STI-free ones that offer the sex...
        
             | wkat4242 wrote:
             | Understood but I always use protection anyway.
             | 
             | And when I did this kind of work I was a shy horny teenager
             | so I wouldn't have cared about looks :P
        
             | freedomben wrote:
             | Indeed. A friend of mine did work in a small town hard-hit
             | by the changing economy, and multiple times had offers of
             | sex (more commonly oral sex) in lieu of payment (or partial
             | payment). If you're not picky then some of these people
             | have a lot of experience and are good at what they do. But
             | if toothless/meth-toothed people, usually not recently
             | showered, and sometimes with a fair amount of extra weight
             | is something that will be a problem for you, then it's not
             | going to be as appealing as it initially sounds. On the
             | (maybe) plus side they won't make you wear a condom. On the
             | negative side, they didn't make anybody else either...
             | 
             | Much better (IMHO) to put in the time and effort to
             | cultivate a loving long-term relationship with a good
             | partner.
        
               | wkat4242 wrote:
               | Uhm if you're fixing PCs as I did you don't end up
               | working for meth-toothed people :P
               | 
               | Maybe not the most attractive people no, but regular
               | middle-class people at the very least. Especially when
               | you were fixing macs which were even more premium priced
               | here in Europe back then than they are now. I fixed all
               | sorts of stuff but I would not have marginalised clients.
               | 
               | I guess it's also why I didn't get such offers :P I
               | didn't charge a lot so people could pay my fees easily.
               | 
               | In fact I think sensitivity to paying money (or receiving
               | financial incentives) is more of a US thing. Only last
               | month I spoke to a fairly rich American guy because a
               | friend asked me about a problem he was having with his
               | WiFi. I gave him some advice and he offered me money to
               | come to his place and sort it out myself. I said no,
               | because I already have a day job (enterprise architect)
               | and I just don't want the responsibility. Once I start
               | taking money it comes with expectations to show up if
               | something goes wrong. So I help friends for free but
               | that's it (and he was only a friend of a friend). I don't
               | mind giving some advice but actually going there and
               | taking care of his stuff is a bridge too far. I have zero
               | entrepreneurial spirit anyway, I'm a typical "salaried
               | employee" and happy with that.
               | 
               | The guy was a bit offended, he said that in the US
               | everyone would be eager to do some work for money on the
               | side and here he's always having issues getting IT help.
               | His way of finding such help is apparently talking to
               | friends and offering them money then. It surprised me a
               | bit. I don't think many people here would be too eager to
               | do that.
        
               | jamiek88 wrote:
               | > he said that in the US everyone would be eager to do
               | some work for money on the side and here he's always
               | having issues getting IT help
               | 
               | Well that's just bollocks. Perhaps young teenagers are
               | typically okay with earning a bit or forced by their
               | parents to help but it certainly is not the cultural norm
               | that grown ass salaried professionals jump at the chance
               | to earn $50 sorting their neighbors WiFi out.
               | 
               | He just thought he'd found another sucker and was annoyed
               | when you turned out to have a backbone, because you are
               | absolutely right this guy would become what is often
               | called in the trades a 'sinsya'.
               | 
               | 'Sinsya' fixed my printer my WiFi doesn't work as well.
               | Did you break it?
               | 
               | 'Sinsya' fixed my WiFi my washing machine doesn't do the
               | hot cycle properly. You were messing with the 'wires'
               | weren't you?
               | 
               | Etc etc fucking etc.
               | 
               | If he called a professional company to help he'd have no
               | issues 'here' but he'd also have to pay the going rate.
               | 
               | What he means is back home he has a network large enough
               | to exploit and doesn't have to worry about learning how
               | to do it or pay a professional.
        
               | busterarm wrote:
               | Comment OP here. Most of the people who were my clients
               | were artist types who moved to the public transportation
               | fringes of Brooklyn where rent was the cheapest (at that
               | time). They were barely skating by and usually had pretty
               | roachy apartments.
               | 
               | A large percentage of these folks were very into drug
               | use... in a way that it hindered achieving the goals that
               | they moved to NY to accomplish.
               | 
               | I took on these clients specifically because my store was
               | going to fleece them and not fix their problems whereas I
               | could and reasonably quickly. As broke creatives with
               | broken computers their lives were likely to spiral into a
               | dark place otherwise.
               | 
               | I dealt with way more desperate situations than middle-
               | class people with regular computer problems. This was the
               | "I pirated Adobe Creative Suite and have a deadline but
               | the virus has taken over my computer" era.
        
       | squokko wrote:
       | Ironically enough, one of the rich people who did not have a
       | large household staff was Steve Jobs himself. One thing that
       | money often seems to buy you is a bunch of strangers in your
       | fucking house and he hated that.
        
       | mproud wrote:
       | Close. GSX, not ASX.
        
       | kls0e wrote:
       | fairly entertaining morning lecture :-) many thanks
        
       | qingcharles wrote:
       | I did this in the mid 90s. It was really fun to see inside a lot
       | of rich people's houses, the sort that have libraries so big they
       | need those ladders with wheels on to scoot around.
       | 
       | I was hit on by several bored housewives, including one that
       | answered the door in her open robe.
       | 
       | One American woman had brought her inkjet from the USA and I
       | hooked it up to a decent convertor, but it wasn't one that
       | converted the frequency, and the inkjet released its entire
       | content of magic smoke, which incidentally was enough to fill a
       | very large penthouse apartment. I ran her out of the apartment,
       | then I remembered it was still plugged in, so I had to stagger
       | totally blind through the apartment to find the damned thing and
       | unplug it lol
       | 
       | That job put me in contact with a criminal gang who went on to
       | supply with me dozens of GBs of stolen hard drives that I used to
       | create what was probably the largest warez FTP in the world and a
       | dump site for most of the top pirate groups like Razor 1911.
        
         | quickthrower2 wrote:
         | Wild read!
        
         | KennyBlanken wrote:
         | Just a PSA (not trying to harp on parent commenter, just taking
         | their comment as an opportunity to soapbox) but never, ever,
         | every go into a room or building that is getting smokey from
         | something burning. It's how you N+1 the casualty/death count in
         | a fire. Unlike the heroes in films and movies, you don't have
         | Plot Armor.
         | 
         | It is incredibly common that people think they can just go back
         | in holding their breath or stay low or cover their mouth with
         | their clothing like in hollywood...but they take a bit of a
         | breath, cough, and suck in lungfuls of the smoke, and are
         | almost immediately incapacitated.
         | 
         | A lot of things, like PVC for example, release chlorine gas
         | when they burn, which immediately turns your lung mucus into
         | hydrochloric acid. All the other things in the smoke is
         | incredibly bad for you both short and long-term, too.
         | 
         | The smoke is also flammable. Opening a door lets in oxygen, and
         | oxygen + fuel + heat = a fuckton of heat, very suddenly.
         | 
         | I really wish that writers would suffer legal liability for
         | shit like showing people entering a building with their shirt
         | over their mouth - it's where people get the idea that they can
         | so that sort of stuff.
        
           | dreamcompiler wrote:
           | Firefighter here. I will walk into a burning building if I'm
           | wearing bunker gear, breathing from a working SCBA, carrying
           | a Halligan or axe so I can chop my way back out if I have to,
           | and my buddy is with me carrying a hose squirting water. Lots
           | of water. Said hose must be attached to a BRT (big red truck)
           | on the other end so that when I can't see shit and my air
           | alarm starts beeping we can crawl along by feeling said hose
           | and follow it back out to safety.
           | 
           | Most important, I must have a reasonable suspicion that there
           | are lives inside that might be savable.
           | 
           | Without all that, screw it. That building gets to burn.
        
             | effingwewt wrote:
             | Really appreciate the work you do and the dangers you risk.
             | 
             | o7
        
           | gorlilla wrote:
           | We just had a house fire over the holidays. It started in the
           | basement, I was to the flames in 10 seconds, using an
           | extinguisher another 5-6 seconds later. That failed... I
           | spent another 30 seconds scrambling for anything that might
           | suffocate the flames.... then I had to get out. I was
           | 'upwind' of how the flames were spreading, but was not
           | prepared for the power to suddenly cut out in a room now
           | quickly filling with black smoke.
           | 
           | The whole ordeal was 1-2 minutes before I had to evacuate the
           | house and watch it all burn, helplessly.
           | 
           | Even a good plan isn't always enough; most don't have any
           | plan.
        
             | snewman wrote:
             | Holy cow.
             | 
             | How did the fire start, and where was it initially
             | spreading that went up so fast?
        
             | Cyphase wrote:
             | Sorry to hear that, that's awful. I'm glad you (and
             | everyone else hopefully) made it out (relatively) safely.
        
             | waltwalther wrote:
             | Wow. I am sorry to hear that. Glad you are ok, and hope no
             | one was hurt.
        
           | wnolens wrote:
           | > It is incredibly common that people think they can just go
           | back in holding their breath or stay low or cover their mouth
           | with their clothing like in hollywood
           | 
           | Thanks, I had the slight impression that this was true and
           | now feel incredibly stupid.
        
           | qingcharles wrote:
           | Yes, it was dumb as hell. I realized that once I'd taken
           | several steps in and could no longer see the way out o_O
        
         | supriyo-biswas wrote:
         | > That job put me in contact with a criminal gang who went on
         | to supply with me dozens of GBs of stolen hard drives that I
         | used to create what was probably the largest warez FTP
         | 
         | Statements like this seem to agree with the anti-piracy groups'
         | narrative about piracy being closely related to organized
         | crime, a claim that initially seemed questionable to me.
        
           | progbits wrote:
           | That narrative is idiotic, sure pirates might buy stolen
           | drives, same as gangs use knives. Stopping one won't affect
           | the other.
        
           | christoph wrote:
           | Back in the VCD/SVCD/DVD/PS1/PS2 days, piracy was absolutely
           | heavily interwoven with organised criminal gangs. I couldn't
           | comment on the current state, but I'd be surprised if there
           | was enough money in media piracy for organised crime to even
           | glance at it, given the vast and easy profits now available
           | in narcotics and fraud.
           | 
           | "HK silvers" were industrially pressed and printed CDs and
           | DVDS you could buy in any market street in SE Asia. Later
           | they started flooding into Europe. For a few years you'd
           | often see illegal DVD sellers outside supermarkets in the UK
           | with all their warez spread out across the pavement for sale.
           | 
           | There was even a local enterprising porn DVD seller in our
           | local area that went around all the local pubs flogging
           | pirated porn DVDs to the inebriated chaps just before closing
           | time. Illegally pressed pirate disks that he purchased from
           | another criminal who mass illegally imported them for resale.
           | These weren't disks he burnt off with his home PC.
           | 
           | Many of the large FTP sites when I was involved in the piracy
           | community 20 or so years ago certainly seemed to have
           | nefarious links as well if you dared to look or think (so you
           | generally didn't). Sure, some were just illicitly set up on
           | fast college/university networks by enterprising students,
           | but there were certainly many running around that time that
           | were funded by organised crime.
           | 
           | *edit - I mention above I doubt organised crime is interested
           | in media piracy now, but on reflection I suddenly realised
           | how I'm probably quite wrong on this. There are plenty of
           | illegal IPTV services (re streamed PPV, commercial channels,
           | streaming providers) being illegally sold through the same
           | people & channels as narcotics.
        
             | rvba wrote:
             | How would organized crime benefit from setting up an
             | illegal FTP?
             | 
             | It just cut in their profits of selling pirated CDs with
             | movies or software
        
               | AtiRadeon9700 wrote:
               | Those FTPs were not publically accessible -- the users,
               | numbering in the dozens or hundreds at most, were
               | software crackers, dvd rippers, couriers, etc. So
               | normally a 'top site' FTP would see a steady incoming
               | flow of brand new pirate material that the site owners
               | could use in the money-making side of their operation.
        
             | flumpcakes wrote:
             | I am very annoyed by TV and streaming services. I have a
             | very nice TV which I specifically chose because it had
             | Google TV builtin, so I wouldn't have to suffer through any
             | third party TV interfaces.
             | 
             | My gosh, it is not very good. I get advertised TV shows I
             | cannot watch all the time. I have legally purchased several
             | streaming services (netflix/disney/prime/apple/etc.) but I
             | have to open each service as a separate application to just
             | browse.
             | 
             | I do not own a TV license, but I will be advertised shows
             | on iPlayer which I _legally_ cannot watch.
             | 
             | My friend has an illegal IPTV subscription, something in
             | the order of $100 for 12 months of access. This has one
             | single interface that lists thousands of live channels,
             | across multiple countries. It has streaming content from
             | every paid streaming service in one searchable / sortable /
             | listable interface. The provider also has their very own
             | branded 'streaming service' which has content in true 4K
             | HDR. Films ripped from 4K disks in full bitrate.
             | 
             | With the rise of Steam / Netflix I have only not paid to
             | consume media when it was not available in my region, now
             | we have another half-dozen services the content has become
             | fragmented.
             | 
             | I currently pay 4x for 1/10th of the service my friend does
             | with illegal IPTV.
             | 
             | Piracy has become attractive again. I'm not sure how this
             | is going to get solved.
             | 
             | Really I want a service where I pay my $10 a month and can
             | stream/watch _everything_ and the royalties just get paid
             | to the content creator. Much like Spotify does for music. I
             | wonder if we will get the same content fragmentation in
             | music streaming in the future; Swift's new album only
             | releasing on Tide, for example. I hope not.
        
           | yard2010 wrote:
           | That's the point, as long as it's illegal criminal would reap
           | the profits. Same with everything else
        
           | qingcharles wrote:
           | They ran a legit front business of fitting double-glazed
           | windows I discovered one day by accident, when I ran into
           | them mid-install at a hair salon lol. I'm guessing it gave
           | them some access to the buildings they were stealing from,
           | and at least the opportunity to scope out jobs. The stuff I
           | was buying was mostly commercial, sometimes Sun equipment,
           | etc.
           | 
           | I eventually got raided by the cops and they took all the
           | stuff at my house, but not all the servers which were shoved
           | directly on the JA.NET.
           | 
           | Funnily I would rip off the criminals. Especially on hard
           | drives. They would bring me bags of HDDs and they would say
           | "Hey, we got this 5GB drive for you" and I would bullshit
           | them, "No, that's a 500MB, you're reading it wrong", or
           | "That's _unformatted_ capacity.. it 's only 3GB _formatted_
           | mate ".
        
         | detourdog wrote:
         | I specialized for a while in NYC as someone who get a network
         | of Macs connected to the internet with an ISDN line.
         | 
         | I know exactly what you are talking about.
        
         | peterpost2 wrote:
         | >I was hit on by several bored housewives, including one that
         | answered the door in her open robe.
         | 
         | When you applied for the job did they list this under the
         | benefits?
        
           | qingcharles wrote:
           | It was mentioned by my predecessor who was then my boss lol.
           | I thought he was joking...
        
         | wnolens wrote:
         | I did window cleaning in the 2000s and went inside many rich
         | folks homes. It was my favorite part of the job.
         | 
         | But I had a much different experience. They were kind, more
         | humanizing than middle class housewives, and very proud of
         | their homes which were often fully custom to their spec. Most
         | had built a successful business. Perhaps my curiosity went a
         | long way to flatter them, or they saw themselves in me - young
         | and hustling.
        
         | smith7018 wrote:
         | I also did this in the 2000s and while it was fun to peer into
         | their lives, the amount of porn I was forced to see on elderly
         | people's machines was... not great. Especially during those
         | rare occurrences where they wanted to watch what I was doing to
         | "learn how to use the computer." Just awkward all around.
        
           | thelittleone wrote:
           | Found same on laptop of an insurance company CFO. Had to
           | ignore it.
        
           | qingcharles wrote:
           | It's weird, I must have repaired hundreds of computers.
           | Hundreds of backups, reinstalls, but never once did I come
           | across any porn. This was around 1995 though, so it was very
           | early days of the Internet, and pre-digital cameras.
           | 
           | Now, in the early 2000s I had to buy dozens of smartphones to
           | test out an SMS relay (SMSC). I bought them all on eBay. Like
           | 70% of them had homemade porn of the owners on them still...!
        
             | dingdong33 wrote:
             | Could you share them?
        
             | refulgentis wrote:
             | The variety of stories, nonchalance with which you tell
             | them, and a few key signs of exaggeration had me writing
             | off your comments. This one has me publicly saying it.
             | 
             | yeah, sure, all those "early 2000s" "smart phones" with
             | "video" and enough capacity for "home made porn" That was
             | way too short ago to exaggerate this baldly.
        
               | effingwewt wrote:
               | You've probably never had to repair phones or buy them
               | online used.
               | 
               | What op said very much lines up with my own experience.
               | 
               | I remember flip phones with all kinds of stuff on them.
        
               | wlesieutre wrote:
               | Early 2000's we're talking phones like the Nokia 6600
               | 
               | https://www.cnet.com/reviews/nokia-6600-review/
               | 
               |  _> You can also capture the moment on video with the
               | handset 's video recorder, which renders brief
               | (10-second), fuzzy images and lo-fi audio. The 6600
               | stores clips as QCIF files in resolutions of either
               | 176x144 or 128x96, and you can play them using the
               | phone's onboard RealOne player. We got an undeniable kick
               | out of shooting video with the 6600, but the actual clips
               | aren't exactly Oscar worthy. As with the phone book,
               | picture and video storage is limited by only the phone's
               | available memory, but if you're running low, you can
               | store your recordings on the included 32MB MMC media._
               | 
               | Nobody's saying they were hour long HD professional porn
               | productions
        
         | sandworm101 wrote:
         | So non-manufacturer repair of electronics lead to vice,
         | criminality and exploding ink cartridges? Don't anyone tell
         | Louis Rossmann. He has whole videos about that being a myth.
        
         | ByHookOrCrook wrote:
         | No you didn't get hit on - americans in the mid 90s were racist
         | toward chinamen
        
       | ErneX wrote:
       | I used to fix computers for doctors when I was a teenager, this
       | brought some memories, fun read.
        
       | 2143 wrote:
       | The experiences of people who meet a wide range of customers are
       | always interesting.
       | 
       | I had read a similar story of a man who worked at car showrooms
       | of various brands (such as Honda, Toyota).
       | 
       | > Look it's important that if you see Oprah, you act normally,
       | please don't ask her for an autograph or a photo
       | 
       | I never understood why people drool when they see celebrities.
       | 
       | Movie actors, musicians, sportspersons etc -- I like watching
       | them when they're in a movie, or when have sung a song, or when
       | they're on the field playing, but I never really had any
       | inclination to actually meet them. Even if I did meet them, I
       | wouldn't have anything useful to say.
        
         | TylerE wrote:
         | The trick, and I say this as someone who's gotten to meet a
         | fair number of musicians, including some semi-famous ones, is
         | that they're people. Plus they're also huge music nerds. Just
         | mention Cheap Trick and you're in... (Although at the same
         | time, do know how to read the room - it's not that hard to tell
         | when someone just wants to be left alone.
         | 
         | Those genuine interactions are better than any autograph or
         | selfie.
        
           | bookofjoe wrote:
           | Sort of related: I was friends with a world-famous surgeon at
           | UCLA, chairman of the urology department (he married an ex-
           | girlfriend whom I stayed on good terms with).
           | 
           | His patient roster was a who's who of Hollywood: Groucho
           | Marx, Katherine Hepburn, Cary Grant, etc. He told me the
           | secret of getting these famous people to follow his orders:
           | he always included something in his post-op instructions that
           | would force them to do something they'd much rather not do.
           | 
           | Making them compliant created a kind of master-servant
           | relationship with the surgeon as master; these megastars were
           | so unused to following orders that the harsher the Rx, the
           | more they regarded the doctor as a demi-god.
        
         | blkhawk wrote:
         | I think its a para-social thing. We are not build to see
         | somebody everyday in a certain context and only passively
         | interact with them. This crosses a couple of wires I think.
         | 
         | I have similar desires to not meet them but its mostly because
         | I do not care that much and they probably have enough randos
         | bothering them. I would probably dive under the table as well
         | as in the article :)
        
         | gvurrdon wrote:
         | I've met a few but would normally not bother them as I'm sure
         | they're not at all interested in anything other than the job at
         | hand. One exception was when I was a specialist extra for a
         | documentary and the star presenter asked me for some background
         | info. on my specialist area; in that case I was happy to chat
         | to them for a while about it.
        
         | raisedbyninjas wrote:
         | I feel the same way and yet once I turned around at a city art
         | fair to be right in front of somebody recognizable. It struck
         | me as surprising in the same way as bumping into a friend. I
         | involuntarily greeted them by name. The best response to my
         | mistake that I could come up with on the spot was "I'm a big
         | fan", handshake, "have a nice day", leave.
        
       | PeterStuer wrote:
       | Tools specially for Mac repair. Anyone else remember the "case
       | cracker"? It was a very broad hinged wedge you had to use to open
       | up the original all-in-one Macs (with the 9" B&W screens). There
       | were some capacitors in those machines that blew out frequently.
       | Fantastic computer for its time though, if you could afford it.
        
         | gamache wrote:
         | Don't forget its two friends -- the long-handled Torx and the
         | screwdriver with the 10M resistor and the alligator clip, to
         | bleed the charge out of the CRT.
         | 
         | Fun machines. I still have two SE/30s, including my upgraded SE
         | from childhood!
        
       | aschla wrote:
       | As someone who has lived here for going on 15 years, he really
       | unintentionally nailed the whole spectrum of experience of living
       | in Chicago.
       | 
       | And "Live in a city for any amount of time and you'll start to
       | develop a subconscious odds calculator." was very relatable.
        
       | odysseus wrote:
       | Great read, this guy is going on my daily RSS feed list.
        
       | hoc wrote:
       | Finally a comprehensive guide on how to arrange ones home/life
       | once that YC deal goes through.
       | 
       | There's also the tip on bus station prey, should it not.
       | 
       | Great read (seriously).
        
       | neilkk wrote:
       | That isn't what "door to door" means though.
        
       | caseyf wrote:
       | If you liked this, you might like the novella "Laserwriter II" by
       | Tamara Shopsin.
       | 
       | https://www.theverge.com/c/22713440/the-worst-thing-on-earth...
        
         | jpm_sd wrote:
         | This was a delightful piece of writing, but it's hard to see
         | how it turns into a novel. Kind of a documentary style?
         | 
         | The author is a member of the semi famous Shopsin family
         | 
         | https://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/shopsins/
        
       | tambourine_man wrote:
       | > I was directed to park across the street and told even though
       | the signs said "no parking" that they had a "deal with the city".
       | 
       | He said he didn't have a car a few paragraphs before. Has he
       | earned enough by then?
        
         | 4gotunameagain wrote:
         | He then proceeds to specify that it was a borrowed one
        
           | tambourine_man wrote:
           | Yeah, just got to that part.
        
       | louwrentius wrote:
       | - great anekdotes
       | 
       | - excellent writing
       | 
       | - small observations that imply a ton
       | 
       | loved this writeup
        
       | comprev wrote:
       | Great read and a trip down memory lane for me as I cut my teeth
       | being a field engineer for a small IT support company in London
       | for 2 years was back in 2005.
        
       | febeling wrote:
       | Reminds me that what we really crave is authenticity. It's the
       | number one rule for writing. Also shows why AI content is so
       | pointless.
        
       | kuon wrote:
       | I did that for about 10 years from 2000 to 2010. The part about
       | "being part of the furniture" is really on point. It is
       | incredible how little they think of you. This has a side effect,
       | they thrust you. Ebanking logins, emails, personal conversation,
       | photos... You get it all. I was always very discrete and never
       | did anything "bad", but there were moments when I was treated
       | like a nuisance where I really wanted to. There is also a few
       | times when you find out that the husband or wife is cheating,
       | that is always very difficult to handle especially when the other
       | one is here with you saying how great their partner is.
        
       | yardie wrote:
       | One of the things I miss by reading this post is how empowered
       | CSRs were back in those days. Today, everything is scripted and
       | highly metricized. Going through the customer service line today
       | will get you the run around and lot of toothless solutions. No
       | one can do anything and even "escalation" mostly means handing
       | you off to another powerless CSR to continue the runaround.
       | 
       | This post reminds me of my youth. I had a Mac and the motherboard
       | died. AppleCare told me it was out of warranty. But I had the
       | receipt of the extended warranty we bought from Sears. They
       | wanted me to pay for the repair and send them the invoice. I told
       | the Sears CSR "this is my schoolwork computer and we don't have
       | money like that. Which is why we bought this warranty. Because
       | you told us it would take care of any problem with our Mac." That
       | CSR jumped on a 3-way call with me and AppleCare. I think they
       | did a purchase order but all I remember was it was handled and
       | the Apple repair tech was there the next day.
       | 
       | Just the thought of someone even having that much autonomy
       | nowadays is completely foreign.
        
         | steveBK123 wrote:
         | It's interesting how rapidly the beancounters quashed CSR
         | autonomy and put everything behind inscrutable ticketing
         | systems.
         | 
         | Even at relatively small companies, with internal tools and
         | support teams this happened pretty rapidly in the 2010s. I've
         | worked at all sorts of small companies with as few as 500
         | employees where we initially just had a list of "guys" to call
         | for different issues.. and eventually some Big Company MBA Type
         | would come in and kill it. Next thing you know there's 5
         | different ticketing system queues obfuscating the fact that
         | it's still the same 1-2 guys supporting each queue.
         | 
         | Turnaround time got worse, users were unhappier, support team
         | was unhappier, we had to pay SaaS companies for their ticketing
         | system, and probably hire a Global Head Of __ to run the whole
         | thing. BUT.. we now could measure all the misery! Incredible!
        
           | pseingatl wrote:
           | Thank McKinsey.
        
         | sq_ wrote:
         | It does seem like Apple and a few other companies still manage
         | to do a half-decent job today. It takes a lot of running around
         | through the phone tree and putting up with people going through
         | the long script of solutions you already tried, but if you can
         | get a few rungs up the escalation ladder you get to people who
         | can make things happen, still.
         | 
         | Definitely not the same as it was, though :(
        
           | themadturk wrote:
           | I've had several opportunities to experience AppleCare+, both
           | remotely and at Apple Stores, and have to say they've all
           | been satisfactory. My most recent repair was after a bunch of
           | things came rapidly together to cause milk to spill on my
           | MacBook Air keyboard. I took the machine in the Apple Store,
           | they dispatched it to the repair facility and took my credit
           | card information to cover the $300 deductible. The machine
           | was in repair for less than a day, and the charge to my
           | credit card was only $100. AppleCare+ is the only extended
           | warranty that's been worth the money.
        
         | benatkin wrote:
         | > this is my schoolwork computer and we don't have money like
         | that
         | 
         | I would prefer to accept this as the baseline and not have to
         | explain why my purchase is important. A large amount of
         | situations involving ownership of a computer are similarly
         | important when it comes to someone being in a pivotal part of
         | their life and not having extra money.
        
       | hnthrowaway0328 wrote:
       | Nice writing. I like it.
       | 
       | I'm actually thinking about getting a training of electronics
       | technician because I want to learn the soldering/desoldering part
       | of hardware hacking -- which I believe any serious hacking may
       | need such skill. But then the job prospect and salary are not
       | really convincing...
        
         | arcfour wrote:
         | Why not do it as a hobby instead? It's quite popular these
         | days.
        
       | LoryGilman wrote:
       | The 90s tech scene? More like a crossover episode between
       | 'Ocean's Eleven' and 'Silicon Valley.' From luxury house
       | adventures to dodgy dealings with digital pirates, fixing Macs
       | was like a rollercoaster ride in the tech underworld.
        
       | MorrhinKev wrote:
       | Talk about tech gone wild! Those 90s Mac repair tales are
       | straight out of a heist movie, complete with inkjet smoke bombs
       | and an accidental dive into the piracy deep end. Makes today's IT
       | work look like a walk in the park!
        
       | YumanLi wrote:
       | Imagine being a Mac fixer turned pirate king - only in the 90s,
       | right? From smoke-spewing printers to brushing shoulders with the
       | digital underworld, those were the days of real tech adventures.
       | Makes you miss the wild side of tech.
        
       | _fat_santa wrote:
       | From the entire article, this paragraph stood out the most to me
       | 
       | > The golden rule that every single one of these assistants
       | warned me about was not to bother the husband when he gets home.
       | Typically these CEO-types would come in, say a few words to their
       | kids and then retreat to their own area of the house. These were
       | often TV rooms or home theaters, elaborate set pieces with
       | $100,000+ of AV equipment in there that was treated like it was a
       | secret lair of the house. To be clear, none of these men ever
       | cared at all that I was there. They didn't seem to care that
       | anybody was there, often barely acknowledging their wives even
       | though an immense amount of work had gone into preparing for his
       | return.
       | 
       | You often hear anecdotes of the rich family that's got it all yet
       | the kids are all screwed up and the marriage is on the rocks. For
       | me this paragraph offers a glimpse into why that's the case and
       | why people say "money can't buy happiness". I don't know I may be
       | way off base here but that's the impression I got.
        
         | Stampson_Gerhig wrote:
         | I spent a year working for an A/V installation company - whole
         | house integrated sound systems, media servers, security, etc -
         | and their clientele was solely multi-millionaires of various
         | nationalities.
         | 
         | My job was primarily as a programmer for the control systems
         | these installations used so I spent the majority of my working
         | day in clients homes. They were without exception the most
         | sterile, vapid, soulless environments I had ever been in. They
         | had everything in them but nothing felt homely. Another thing
         | was the lack of responsibility for cost. You know the line from
         | Arrested Development "it's one banana, Michael, how much could
         | it cost, $10?" Well, this is their real lives.
         | 
         | I was asked to visit a client to arrange a laptop for them to
         | use for day trading. I turn up, start going through options for
         | MacBooks, their pros/cons, costs of models vs features and the
         | guy turns to me, exasperated, and goes "I don't care about the
         | cost, just give me what I need". Ok, I say I'll let my manager
         | know what I picked. I find out a couple weeks later, he's
         | actually rented a Bloomberg terminal for thousands a week. He
         | then gets me back in to set the thing up. I'm sat at this
         | machine, on the phone to Bloomberg being asked by them for the
         | clients usernames and password, me leaning over to them to ask
         | for the details, being told, relaying that back to Bloomberg,
         | about three times. Until, exasperated, he takes me notebook and
         | writes down every username and every password for every account
         | and service he used. Bloomberg, banking, email, everything. It
         | was worth poor old me having that to not bother him any more
         | than necessary.
         | 
         | Plenty of experiences from that too brief 12 months but was a
         | massive eye opener to a side of society that I'd never have got
         | the chance to see.
         | 
         | It's a different world, but not entirely sure it's one I'd want
         | to live in.
        
           | steveBK123 wrote:
           | There's a lot of jobs/markets where the physical hardware is
           | not even remotely the main cost.
           | 
           | Think - $2-3k/mo Bloomberg terminal, various proprietary data
           | vendors at $25k/50k/100k per year, etc. If you are
           | professionally managing money (like a family office or
           | something) at a scale of say $1B then having all these soft
           | costs add up to say $1M/year is basically nothing.. 0.1%. In
           | that world, a $1k vs $4k MacBook is basically irrelevant. If
           | they were smart, they'd have multiple devices on standby so
           | they can immediately get back online in case of any failures.
           | 
           | That said, in most cases day trading is basically just high
           | end gambling and a mechanism of turning a large fortune into
           | a small one.
           | 
           | Put another way, if you are in any non-technical role that
           | makes $1M/year but you depend on reliable computer access..
           | every day of being offline is worth $4000, or say $500/hour.
           | 
           | For a lot of people, computers are a means to an ends and
           | just a tool. Think about how a professional chef thinks about
           | their dishwashing machine or a car enthusiast thinks about
           | garage door openers. You just expect it to work, and in the
           | 0.0001% scenarios it does fail its really annoying.
        
             | gen220 wrote:
             | These stories of justifying great expenses amuse me,
             | because I can't help but compare them to Warren Buffet's
             | office (which is mostly sports memorabilia, loose papers, a
             | telephone [1]).
             | 
             | >That said, in most cases day trading is basically just
             | high end gambling and a mechanism of turning a large
             | fortune into a small one.
             | 
             | Poignant! There are plenty of people and businesses happy
             | to pry off a chunk along the way. :)
             | 
             | [1]: https://www.businessinsider.com/take-a-candid-and-
             | personal-t...
        
               | steveBK123 wrote:
               | Warren Buffett is probably the great exception to the
               | rule of Billionaires pretending to live commonly.
               | 
               | Most of the other "oh I drive a Honda" or "I live with
               | roommates" origin stories turn out to be factual, but
               | incomplete as we find out they have roommates in a $20M
               | penthouse / commute in the Honda for optics but have a
               | garage full of luxury vehicles / own 27 homes / etc.
               | 
               | Kind of like the classic Steve Jobs "hide the Porsches"
               | story.
               | 
               | That said, I bet Buffett owns at least 2 MacBooks?
               | 
               | And really at the end of the day, anyone with a FAANG
               | level job should have backup compute in the case of
               | failure. It's a nothing expense next to the income we
               | derive from using compute.
        
         | steveBK123 wrote:
         | I had a friend in school back in nowhere whose family for some
         | reason resembled this, without the money or in any way being a
         | captain of industry as they say. He in no way made enough money
         | to household help, or even to fully support the families
         | lifestyle as the wife did do some part time work.
         | 
         | It was one of the weirdest experiences being there and the mom
         | was super prepping everything for The DAD arrival, down to
         | having prepared him a completely separate meal of different
         | food to be consumed on his own later. It was clear that
         | whatever she cooked for him was better, and off limits, to her,
         | kids, and me as a guest.
         | 
         | Was super weird. One of those moments where you suspect decent
         | odds the dad was a wife beater.
        
       | Jonmade wrote:
       | Reading these stories about fixing Macs in the 90s is like
       | unearthing a treasure trove of tech lore. Who would have thought
       | that a day job could lead to encounters with high society,
       | complete with inkjet printers turning into unexpected smoke
       | machines, and a twist of fate leading to a starring role in the
       | world of digital piracy? It's fascinating how these tales
       | intertwine technology with the thrill of adventure, almost like
       | living in a real-life spy novel
        
         | SoKamil wrote:
         | Did you use LLM to write this comment? It felt a little bit
         | unnatural to my eye so I put it into gptzero and it spit out a
         | 91% of probability that this was generated.
        
           | AtiRadeon9700 wrote:
           | Lol, I had the exact same thought. There's something.. Off
           | about its writing style; reminds me of marketing copy or 'HR
           | speak'.
        
           | hexagonwin wrote:
           | Had the exact same thought as well. It just.. kinda feels
           | off.
        
           | someguydave wrote:
           | is he engagement farming?
        
       | Rubbieday wrote:
       | These anecdotes from the front lines of 90s tech support are
       | nothing short of astonishing. It's a vivid reminder of how the
       | tech industry, often seen as mundane or straightforward, has its
       | share of wild, almost unbelievable stories. From tech mishaps
       | turning into hazardous situations to an inadvertent descent into
       | the world of digital piracy, it's a stark contrast to the
       | current, more sanitized world of tech support and IT.
        
       | urbandw311er wrote:
       | This was superb. Thanks to the author for sharing.
        
       | Sharitemo wrote:
       | The tales from the 90s of fixing Macs are like pages from a tech
       | thriller novel. Each story is a mix of high-end luxury,
       | unexpected social encounters, and a descent into the murky waters
       | of digital piracy, all wrapped up in the day-to-day life of a
       | computer technician. It's a fascinating glimpse into a past where
       | the lines between technology, adventure, and moral ambiguity were
       | constantly blurred.
        
       | ftio wrote:
       | I was once an Apple Certified Technical Consultant, mostly doing
       | managed services-type work for small businesses in NYC but would
       | sometimes get the call to go to someone's house, usually an owner
       | or other senior-level exec at one of these businesses.
       | 
       | These were serious houses. Huge houses out in the Hamptons or
       | four-story brownstones on the Upper East Side.
       | 
       | One call, I was doing work to resolve an issue with a customer's
       | network, which consisted of a number of AirPort Extremes. One of
       | these was in their bedroom, under a bed.
       | 
       | For fifteen minutes or so, I lay on my belly, working away at my
       | laptop trying to reset the godforsaken thing, when I spotted a
       | small chair a few feet away. Pulled it over, and began working in
       | a much more comfortable seated position. As I grew comfortable,
       | I'd lean back on the back two legs of the chair and kind of rock
       | back and forth.
       | 
       | As I'm doing this, the owner pops her head in, saying, "Hey,
       | anything I can get--oh my god please get up."
       | 
       | Turns out the chair was pre-federal (ie from the early 1700s) and
       | was probably worth at least my annual salary. Fortunately no
       | damage, but it scarred me. I was not invited back to do repair
       | work at that house.
        
       | waltwalther wrote:
       | This is a great read! I am fifty years old now, but for many
       | years during my twenties I supported myself as a one-man Mac/PC
       | repair shop...in a college town. I made house calls almost
       | everyday, and every evening was spent in my home shop working on
       | drop-offs.
       | 
       | I got to meet a ton of different people. There were the computer-
       | illiterate business owners with ridiculous expectations; the
       | lonely middle-aged guys with esoteric hobbies who talked my ear
       | off; the single moms on a tight budget raising three kids; the
       | ultra rich people wanting to keep a ten-year-old PC alive; the
       | author who had lost years of data and would pay "whatever it
       | takes"; the religious father with gigs of porn; the helpless
       | college students whose lack of basic computer knowledge actually
       | impressed me....and more
       | 
       | This was like a trip down memory lane. Great read. Thanks for
       | sharing!
        
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