[HN Gopher] Book of Kells (2018)
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Book of Kells (2018)
Author : YeGoblynQueenne
Score : 69 points
Date : 2024-01-04 10:32 UTC (2 days ago)
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| anotherhue wrote:
| View it online
| https://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/concern/works/hm50tr726?lo...
|
| The queues to see it in Dublin can be long.
| jan_Inkepa wrote:
| I don't think I've seen a very high-res/non-blurry digital
| version of it online - bit of a shame, given how much is going
| on on some of the pages.
| vdddv wrote:
| No queues anymore, You need to choose a time when you book your
| ticket and there is a set number of tickets for each time slot.
| selimthegrim wrote:
| Is this for the 'experience'?
|
| https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/jan/04/book-
| of...
| jahnu wrote:
| No that's something else.
| shawa_a_a wrote:
| For anyone else interested, and to clarify, "the Book of
| Kells experience" is to stand in for the exhibit in the
| Old Library while it's closed for renovations until 2025
| [1].
|
| Rather than and Old Library, it's a huge red prefab
| building in New Square. Might not be quite as impressive
| as the original tour.
|
| 1: https://www.tcd.ie/old-library-campaign/faq/
| NoZebra120vClip wrote:
| If you've ever got the occasion to visit Phoenix, AZ, there is
| a permanent exhibition which includes a full-colour facsimile,
| and entry is always free of charge.
|
| https://www.azirish.org/events-and-programs/exhibitions/book...
| danielvaughn wrote:
| I've never seen The Book of Kells in person, but I have seen The
| Belles Heures, and it's imprinted in my mind as one of the most
| incredible works of art I've ever seen.
|
| https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/470306
|
| If you're ever in NYC, do yourself a favor and make your way up
| to The Cloisters - it's housed there. Very cool museum even aside
| from this.
| dmazin wrote:
| Highly recommend the animated movie Secret of the Kells.
| plemer wrote:
| Seconded - very distinctive animation, loved the music.
| acdha wrote:
| nth-ing this. Absolutely beautiful in its own right and a great
| introduction to the book.
| NoZebra120vClip wrote:
| Honestly, I don't know the exact intent of the producers
| here, but that film seemed more like an introduction and
| primer for Druidic Paganism than a historical examination of
| monastic scribal practices in the 9th century.
| galleywest200 wrote:
| Well in their defense a primer for fantastical stories
| makes for a more interesting animated movie than a
| historical examination of scribal practices.
| acdha wrote:
| I think the intention was both to share a lot of Irish
| folklore and the tumultuous times where that book was made
| in the era before Ireland became as Catholic as most of us
| were used to thinking of it as. The idea that something
| beautiful could come out of the violent Viking era is a
| pretty powerful concept for a filmmaker, and the art style
| shows that the makers weren't rejecting their Celtic
| heritage.
| dragontamer wrote:
| You're telling me that a 9th century young monk didn't
| defeat the pegan god Crom Cruach, steal his eye and use it
| to write the Book of Kells?
|
| -----
|
| As a less sarcastic response: the movie is about the
| atmosphere / setting of dark-age Ireland, drawn in the
| style demonstrated by the Book of Kells (a book from those
| centuries).
|
| One of the wonders of the book is that whoever wrote it
| seems to have had a magnifying glass, as many designs are
| enlarged objects. But magnifying glasses were not yet
| invented. Maybe they had a different technique involving
| water bubbles or something in the 9th century to see the
| incredibly intricate drawings of that book. Or maybe they
| independently discovered magnifying glasses and kept it
| secret somehow. Who knows?
|
| But going ham by saying "Oh, they stole the eye of the
| pegan god and used that to help write the book" is quite
| epic and excellent storytelling. Its obviously ahistorical
| but a cool story nonetheless.
|
| And its one cool way of acknowledging one cool mystery of
| that book.
| binary132 wrote:
| Some truths are best told as parables, sometimes
| fantastical ones.
| binary132 wrote:
| European Christianity in many ways was integrated with the
| local mythologies and mysticisms of the peoples who took it
| up. For example, the magic in infinite knotwork became
| Christian prayer in the new framework. It's not so far-
| fetched to see the illumination of the Book of Kells as
| being in direct continuity with the pagan heritage, and the
| message of the film seemed to me to be the exposition of
| that relationship, and of how that relationship was used in
| evangelization.
|
| The Vikings themselves were eventually pacified by the same
| evangelization, and social integration into the new Europe.
| riffraff wrote:
| I loved it, "Song of the sea" by the same director/author is
| also quite good but not as much IMVHO.
| rschiavone wrote:
| Check out Wolfwalkers too, is the third movie of the Irish
| Folklore Trilogy made by Tomm Moore after Song of the Sea
| riffraff wrote:
| Noted!
| hinkley wrote:
| The Breadwinner was a rough watch. Not Grave of the
| Fireflies level, but dealing with very heavy subject
| matters. Like an animated Kiterunner.
| hinkley wrote:
| Song of the Sea is even prettier.
|
| Find the friend with the 4K HDR TV and invite yourself over
| to watch it.
|
| They should rerelease that one in theaters.
| binary132 wrote:
| My family loves this movie. I came here to leave this comment
| :)
| dotsam wrote:
| I had a Book of Kells colouring book when I was a child, I really
| loved it. Such beautiful designs.
| amacbride wrote:
| It's really gorgeous in person, and the Trinity Library itself is
| an absolute must-see if you're in Dublin and love books.
| intrasight wrote:
| My daughter has a reproduction, and I've enjoyed many hours of
| looking at the illustrations. My girlfriend and her best friend
| went to see it at Trinity last year. I'm jealous.
| welcome_dragon wrote:
| The library was the inspiration for the Jedi library in Star
| Wars movies. Inspiration as in basically a remake of the
| library.
|
| It's absolutely breathtaking in person
| thinkingtoilet wrote:
| I think the library is far more impressive than the book
| itself. It felt sacred.
| selimthegrim wrote:
| The etymology of miniature was news to me - South Asian artists
| have been decrying the term as colonial as of late and this
| provides some important context
| yetanother12345 wrote:
| What? Miniature is colonial?
|
| Please let me introduce you to the concept "Persian Miniature",
| it even has a Wikipedia page:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_miniature
|
| There is also the equally (if not more) well-known concept of
| "Chinese Miniature Painting". Example:
| https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/36047
|
| Both of these traditions are very established in Art History
| and any hypothetical tie to Western colonialism is, well, fully
| absent. That said, do a search using your favorite search
| engine. Miniature is not exactly a niche concept, so you will
| find lots and lots of great (small) stuff.
| selimthegrim wrote:
| You had better tell Shahzia Sikander that.
| thomond wrote:
| Do you have any more information on this? It sounds just too
| crazy to be true.
| selimthegrim wrote:
| It was a note posted at this exhibition -
| https://www.risd.edu/news/stories/shahzia-sikander-
| extraordi...
| Archelaos wrote:
| I once read that the Book of Kells has a feature that can usually
| not or only under ideal circumstances be observed on a digital
| reproduction or photo: Some narrow lines of the drawings produce
| optical illusions when seen from a typical reading distance. It
| is supposed to be a kind of "virtual" glowing colours between the
| lines that seem to disappear when you focus on them. -- Can
| anyone here confirm this?
| AlbertCory wrote:
| I saw it in Dublin. No special tickets or long waits, IIRC. It's
| totally worth it, as is Trinity College.
|
| I've also been to Iona! There was a bus trip through Mull (not
| that exciting) and then a ferry to Iona. There was some cattle
| land, but otherwise pretty undeveloped.
| arethuza wrote:
| Iona is pretty much Scotland's open-air equivalent of
| Westminster Abbey - there are supposed to be 48
| Dalriadan/Scottish kings buried there, as well as eight
| Norwegian and four Irish kings.
|
| It also has some of the nicest beaches I have seen anywhere -
| although relatively few people ever go to them as they are
| mostly on the far side of the island from the pier and the
| abbey.
| AlbertCory wrote:
| You're right, I didn't go. I bet it's windy, though?
| Affric wrote:
| It's a great island.
| 40four wrote:
| We were just there in October. There is a ticketing system now
| with timed entry, so get your tickets in advance. It's
| reasonable. Like 10 Euro or something. We got there later in
| the day and it was sold out, but my fiance was able negotiate
| her way in :) She loved it! The rest of the library looked
| really cool too.
| shermantanktop wrote:
| I've seen it in person. At that time (90s) they had it open to
| one page, and would turn the page every week or so.
|
| Unfortunately when I was there some clueless old codger decided
| to take a picture with a 35mm camera, leading to a massive flash,
| after all the signs telling everyone not to. It really brought
| home how much safer these artifacts are when the idiot public has
| no access.
| patrickdavey wrote:
| I went to college in Trinity and the Book of Kells is housed in
| the old library.
|
| Once you've finished seeing the book, you head upstairs through
| the Long Room, and that place is just special (they used it as
| the hall of the jedi)
|
| As a student there you could visit for free. I used to just go up
| and hang in the library for 10 mins or so a few times a year.
| Loved it.
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Trinity_College_D...
| chrisfosterelli wrote:
| I agree; I visited trinity collage a couple years ago and the
| book is fascinating from a historical perspective, but seeing
| it in a case isn't much better than a photo. The library itself
| is the better attraction.
| thereikiway wrote:
| I saw the book in 2017, the whole of trinity college library is
| just gorgeous.
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