[HN Gopher] How Australia's 'Bluey' conquered children's enterta...
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       How Australia's 'Bluey' conquered children's entertainment
        
       Author : propter_hoc
       Score  : 270 points
       Date   : 2024-01-05 03:32 UTC (19 hours ago)
        
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       | rfarley04 wrote:
       | Pay walled but I assume it's "somethingsomething parents actually
       | like watching it too." Since that seems to be everyone's
       | reaction, including mine.
       | 
       | My 20 something sister with no kid watches it.
        
         | zellyn wrote:
         | Agreed. It's also just beautiful.
        
         | I_Am_Nous wrote:
         | I love Bluey. I was raised with Heeler dogs so that was major
         | for my initial openness to the show. I may like the show more
         | than my son does even!
        
         | propter_hoc wrote:
         | Here's an archive link: https://archive.is/ArnbD
         | 
         | Pretty much spot on, it has a couple funny quotes like the
         | Bluey episode about a cricket match beating the ratings of the
         | actual cricket match, and how the ABC (Australia's BBC) gave
         | the international rights to the British BBC (which was a rather
         | colossal mistake).
        
         | meristohm wrote:
         | That's been my experience; my spouse and I watched three
         | seasons of Bluey, maybe 80% after our child went to bed. It's a
         | visual parenting manual.
        
           | sheepscreek wrote:
           | > It's a visual parenting manual.
           | 
           | Haha - this is what I told someone the other day. Brandon
           | (Bluey's dad) is a source of inspiration for me. I've put his
           | lighthearted parenting tricks to work with much success!
        
             | lotsofpulp wrote:
             | Bluey's dad's name is Bandit.
        
               | hipadev23 wrote:
               | Paul, haha, that's a person name!
        
             | imp0cat wrote:
             | Like the game of silence, right? That's pure gold!
             | 
             | "Now let's see if you can stay silent until you turn 13."
             | :D
        
             | unwind wrote:
             | In Sweden he is called Billy, probably because "bandit"
             | means gangster/thug/criminal, kinda. Most other names of
             | main characters are unchanged, I think.
             | 
             | We really love Bluey.
        
       | mensetmanusman wrote:
       | So wholesome!
        
       | greenyoda wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/ArnbD
        
       | bennyg wrote:
       | My only problem with Bluey is actually a problem with the Disney+
       | app on my Vizio TV. The episodes are all fairly short, but then
       | there's like 5m of credits before the next episode starts and
       | it's kind of annoying to manually fast forward through them via
       | remote. I often reach for stuff on Netflix just so the next
       | episode will auto play after a few seconds instead of requiring
       | actual manual intervention to keep the little ones out of my hair
       | while making dinner.
        
         | jojobas wrote:
         | Instant gratification or bust!
        
         | alberth wrote:
         | As a parent I like it.
         | 
         | It's just enough time for my kiddo to learn the value of
         | patience. But not so long, that I need to fast forward.
        
           | hackernewds wrote:
           | do we assign too much meaning and value to every child
           | interaction?
        
             | alberth wrote:
             | Do you have kids yourself?
        
             | JoeAltmaier wrote:
             | Not really possible. Children are sponges, learning
             | everything they will carry into adulthood from childhood
             | say six through twelve. After that, good luck.
             | 
             | Any veteran parent can give many examples of early
             | interactions that ended up molding their children forever.
        
           | bombcar wrote:
           | My four year old already knows how to use the remote to skip
           | commercials and credits, turn the tv on himself, and find
           | what he wants.
           | 
           | Hasn't figured out the voice controlled outlet the TV is
           | plugged into yet.
        
         | 29athrowaway wrote:
         | Kids are not supposed to binge watch content.
        
       | seized wrote:
       | As a parent it's just a genuinely nice show to watch. There is so
       | much complete crap out there now that Bluey is a breath of fresh
       | air.
       | 
       | A few others are good fun as well like Grizzy and The Lemmings.
       | But Bluey reigns supreme.
       | 
       | Although I wish the phone game didn't have in app purchases. At
       | least the Bluey video game on Steam is good and without in app
       | purchases or micro transaction nonsense.
        
         | JumpCrisscross wrote:
         | > _so much complete crap out there now that Bluey is a breath
         | of fresh air_
         | 
         | Out of curiosity, as a non-parent, what makes it crap?
        
           | Caligatio wrote:
           | I'm not the OP so I don't know what they define as "crap."
           | However, there is a lot of programming out there that solely
           | exists to keep children's attention while doing nothing with
           | it. The most egregious example that comes to mind is the
           | CoComelon channel on YouTube: literally 1-2 hour videos of
           | nursery rhymes with mediocre animation. It's not some small
           | channel either; one of their 2+ hour videos has 484M views.
        
             | rich_sasha wrote:
             | Cocomelon is seriously the elite of YouTube. And fine for
             | small kids I think, who wouldn't understand things like
             | Bluey. All the messages are around "be nice", "share", "say
             | please and thank you".
             | 
             | There's lots of videos of kids unpacking presents, or
             | having tantrums to get what they want, or weird videos of
             | adults shouting at children... Or videos showing people
             | play computer games for hours on end.
        
               | AndrewDucker wrote:
               | Yeah, it's fine to distract a two year old with.
        
               | paradox460 wrote:
               | My one year old and two year old both love and understand
               | bluey. They gave Grandma looks of derision when she tried
               | to show them Cocomelon
        
               | feoren wrote:
               | > And fine for small kids I think, who wouldn't
               | understand things like Bluey
               | 
               | You are vastly underestimating what small children can
               | understand.
        
           | MarkMarine wrote:
           | There is some crazy kids programming on YouTube. Some dude
           | puts a hamster through basically a fake version of a saw
           | film. Random animation of tractors driving over poor physics,
           | etc
        
           | BeefWellington wrote:
           | I'm probably not qualified to answer this question but to
           | thrown my own two cents out there: I've watched both Bluey
           | and Paw Patrol with friends' kids. Obviously take these
           | observations with a grain of salt.
           | 
           | Paw Patrol is essentially the laziest most nonsensical
           | writing, because of course you don't have to write well if
           | you have enough colour being vomited at the screen and you're
           | really just trying to sell toys.
           | 
           | Bluey is essentially the opposite of that. There's decent
           | stories, it seems to tackle some tough stuff sometimes, and
           | just generally it seems well-written and much more
           | representative of what life is like for people (them being
           | dogs notwithstanding).
           | 
           | Separately, I've also seen some straight up terrible stuff on
           | Youtube. Just random garbage which is probably these days
           | more LLM-generated but clearly used to be created by throwing
           | darts at a board. For example, I opened up youtube kids, said
           | I was a parent, and clicked Explore and this was one of the
           | first videos that came up:
           | https://www.youtubekids.com/watch?v=tOXszq1-rxs The themes
           | tend to be (ab)using well-known properties kids already know
           | to get them to watch your video. This came up as related, and
           | at least involves a Yoga routine but you can see the other
           | elements are there:
           | https://www.youtubekids.com/watch?v=QM8NjfCfOg0
        
           | throwaway87651 wrote:
           | If it exists just to advertise toys (beyblade) or is so
           | saccharine it makes you sick (Daniel tiger) then it's crap.
           | There's good stuff out there though - bluey, octonauts, peg +
           | cat, carmen sandiego.
        
           | kasey_junk wrote:
           | There are literally hundreds of thousands of "kids" YouTube
           | videos, clearly created by algorithm, that play a single song
           | (when my kid was young it was finger family) and put bootleg
           | cartoon characters (spider man, the smurfs, etc) dancing to
           | it over a kaleidoscope background.
           | 
           | At least back when my kid was small the YouTube algo would
           | start feeding them up after the second or third video. You'd
           | turn around to make dinner and come back to this never ending
           | loop of ... crap.
           | 
           | Frankly, I was pretty impressed with the hustle and curious
           | what the tech stack looked like.
        
           | indymike wrote:
           | > what makes it crap?
           | 
           | Parent of five here. Crap = glorifying bad behavior, teaching
           | bad values (this will be different for every family),
           | depicting no consequences for poor decisions, and/or
           | resolving conflict using only violence.
           | 
           | In general, things that mom and dad don't have to either
           | retcon or have a long discussion about why it is bad.
        
           | cruffle_duffle wrote:
           | Watch about 5 minutes of Blippi and find out :-)
        
           | wharvle wrote:
           | There are lots of extremely-cheap kids TV shows on places
           | like Netflix or D+[1], many of which (on Netflix) are imports
           | from e.g. Turkey with bad dubbing, that have plots so inane
           | it's hard to express just how inane they are. Everyone's
           | always acting stressed out and emoting over-the-top (so they
           | hold kids' attention) but _nothing_ is happening, all the
           | conflict is over _nothing_ , anything resembling an actual
           | problem basically just solves itself. This is a very high
           | proportion of the lower-tier shows on those services. It's
           | such amazingly content-free writing that it's hard to believe
           | much of it pre-dates a time when it could have been LLM-
           | penned. [EDIT] Example of the kind of thing I mean: in some
           | of the cheap Disney Tinkerbell/fairy shows, you'll have
           | several characters standing (or floating) around talking,
           | every line delivered with this high-emotion concerned tone,
           | and this will go on quite a while, but when you, as an adult,
           | think about what you're hearing, you'll realize that
           | _practically no_ information is being exchanged, most of the
           | sentences contain no information or are repeating the same
           | stuff for the fourth or fifth time. It 's weird filler that
           | achieves a sense of urgency and importance purely by how the
           | lines are delivered, there's _nothing_ going on.
           | 
           | And that's before even considering factors like providing
           | educational or positive-role-model value, just a sheer "is
           | the script, like... a story, with characters?" level. Or the
           | animation quality (universally garbage, of course).
           | 
           | [1] Not even getting into the absolute insanity of Youtube--
           | look up some of the kid-targeted "story"-type Minecraft
           | machinama on there to see some of the most uncanny
           | "narrative" ever, tons of them go on and on and on with the
           | _trappings_ of a story but no actual story, just things
           | happening one after another and weird nebulous goals that
           | never seem to get any closer, like some kind of drug-fueled
           | automatic-writing experiment, it 's a friggin' fever dream.
           | And that's before you get to the _extremely_ weird Youtube
           | crap aimed at kids.
        
             | xyzzy_plugh wrote:
             | > tons of them go on and on and on with the trappings of a
             | story but no actual story, just things happening one after
             | another and weird nebulous goals that never seem to get any
             | closer,
             | 
             | So like every JJ Abrams production.
        
               | wharvle wrote:
               | He's not _that_ bad, he tells actual stories, kinda, he
               | 's just the laziest plotter in the history of script
               | writing.
               | 
               | "They throw Kirk off the Enterprise! And... uh... Old
               | Spock just happens to be there! Like, _right_ there!
               | Because it 's less work for me if he just _is_ , for no
               | reason! I don't want to think of a real reason and maybe
               | have to go back and revise stuff, or remember things
               | later, to integrate that! _He just is!_ "
               | 
               | "They escape on the Millennium Falcon, and Han and Chewie
               | show up... uh, I guess they'll need another ship for
               | that, so now we have two. And I guess there was a homing
               | beacon on the Falcon, that got activated, and Han just
               | happened to be about five minutes away and already
               | sitting in his cockpit and ready to go and not already on
               | the way somewhere else, in hyperspace? Yeah, doesn't
               | matter, I just need him to be there now so _he is_ ,
               | doing something else would be _hard_. Oh shit I have two
               | ships now, and I need them all on the Falcon, so, uh...
               | monsters and pirates destroy the extra ship I _just_
               | introduced! Yeah there are monsters and pirates now. Do
               | either of those stick around or come back, or are they,
               | like, foreshadowed? No, I just needed them to destroy
               | this ship that I manifested for my own convenience, but
               | no longer have any use for. "
               | 
               | "I need these characters to go somewhere else, so, uh...
               | someone/something shows up and chases them away! There
               | are no other consequences or meaningful connections, they
               | just get chased so that they leave and go to where I need
               | them to be."
               | 
               | Et c.
               | 
               | [EDIT] To be fair, most writers do some of this, they
               | just don't do it quite so willy-nilly and build _entire
               | plots_ that way.
               | 
               | [EDIT EDIT] This _also_ doesn 't necessarily mean his
               | movies are bad. The plotting... I mean, that part's bad,
               | _incredibly_ bad, like, paragon of bad plotting, should-
               | be-covered-in-film-schools bad, in some of them. But it
               | 's not impossible that a movie could still be
               | entertaining, _or even good_ , despite that. I don't mean
               | this to dismiss his entire body of work as _absolutely
               | and entirely_ bad, and actually started out defending him
               | as _markedly_ better at _everything_ than the kind of
               | scripts and TV shows I was writing about, which he
               | certainly is.
        
       | jes5199 wrote:
       | I love Bluey but my kid won't actually watch it. I wonder how
       | common that is
        
         | granshaw wrote:
         | Yeah she much prefers cocomelon!
        
         | derwiki wrote:
         | Blue's Clues (Steve era) is the top preference for my toddler
        
       | DanHulton wrote:
       | Bluey, I honestly believe, is a show for adults (more
       | specifically parents, but, you know, parents are adults) that
       | kids can also enjoy. Like, traditionally, the "best" kid's media
       | from an adult point of view has been kids shows that are also
       | enjoyable for adults, but Bluey is genuinely the opposite.
       | 
       | There are episodes where it feels like the entire point is to get
       | the adults in the room misty-eyed and sniffling, and it all
       | relies on contexts that younger children just absolutely wouldn't
       | have - but they'd still have a good time! And while Bluey and
       | Bingo (the kids on the show) frequently learn lessons, as you'd
       | expect from educational children's media, those lessons are
       | almost always coupled with examples from Bandit and Chilli (the
       | parents) on how to constructively _teach_ those lessons.
       | 
       | (Not to mention, a bunch of episodes are just straight-up the
       | parents learning lessons, while the kids are just being kids and
       | having fun.)
       | 
       | For me, it fills the niche that Bob's Burgers used to fill - an
       | example of a family that's quirky but genuinely loves one
       | another, and communicates (both their love and in general) to
       | move past situations that could become much more serious without
       | it. (Bob's Burgers has fallen off -- to me -- because the
       | characters feel a lot more like caricatures of their earlier
       | selves and most modern episodes seem to rely on one or more
       | characters carrying the "idiot ball" to make anything happen, but
       | that's a rant for another time.)
       | 
       | My wife and I watch an episode every night after dinner to relax
       | after stressful days (two episodes on the really stressful ones)
       | and it's just... Its' very good. We always feel better by the
       | time the credits roll. We've watched a few episodes with kids and
       | they have a good time, but we've also watched a few episodes with
       | other adults, and it's catharsis. It's on another level entirely.
       | I can't imagine what it's going to be like for kids who grew up
       | watching Bluey, to rewatch it as an adult and catch the entire
       | other level it works on. I'm jealous. <3
        
         | JumpCrisscross wrote:
         | > _a show for adults (more specifically parents, but, you know,
         | parents are adults) that kids can also enjoy_
         | 
         | I think this is what gives Disney, and every epic kids' show,
         | intergenerational momentum.
        
         | hdhfjkrkrme wrote:
         | Since some parents actively control what their kids watch it
         | makes sense to create a show optimized for that niche - you
         | increase parent appeal, but this will decrease kids appeal, so
         | now you have an optimization problem to solve.
         | 
         | It would be interesting to see a chart with kids preferences -
         | I bet kids enjoy Bluey far less than other shows since it's not
         | optimized for them, but for parents.
         | 
         | When I was a kid it was a free market - I had a bunch of
         | channels with a bunch of cartoons and I chose which ones to
         | watch.
         | 
         | If you think about it, kids crack like addiction to cartoons
         | doesn't make sense to adults (there are theories), so that
         | raises questions if adults can pick for kids, and not for what
         | they imagine kids would enjoy.
        
           | bombcar wrote:
           | Kids are not a reliable demographic; without being "trained"
           | to like things they'll be perfectly happy watching baby shark
           | on repeat.
        
         | awilfox wrote:
         | I don't know if I really agree. The creator has stated that the
         | point was to appeal to kids _and_ adults, and I think Bluey
         | pulls that off perfectly.
         | 
         | This is similar to _Friendship is Magic_ , which I'm surprised
         | nobody else has brought up yet. A kid's show that doesn't write
         | "down" to them, and is written by people who are creating what
         | they wanted to see when they were that age. That's how you make
         | truly good entertainment!
        
         | jncfhnb wrote:
         | Bobs burgers was originally pitched as a show about cannibals
        
       | jboggan wrote:
       | Bluey is a godsend in our household. It's not annoying and the
       | amount of classical and original music woven into each episode is
       | wonderful.
       | 
       | There's one particular episode - "Sleepytime" - which I cannot
       | bring myself to watch anymore because I get so emotional. Every
       | parent I talk to with young kids who has seen the episode agrees
       | and knows what I mean. It's really that good, and despite being a
       | fun little show there are a lot of episodes that are actually
       | art.
       | 
       | I'll add that although the kids in the show sometimes get up to
       | mischief, they never do anything that I don't mind my own toddler
       | emulating. My child now rings her xylophone, commands the rest of
       | the family to freeze, and we have fun playing along.
        
         | dclowd9901 wrote:
         | My wife will run in from the other room to skip "Sleepytime"
         | because she knows she'll be bawling by the end of it if she
         | even thinks about it. Does me the favor because I will be too.
         | 
         | My endorsement of the show is that it feels like one of the
         | great sitcoms like Cheers or Frasier, Golden Girls or Roseanne.
         | The stories are never pandering or simple. You never quite know
         | where they're going to go with a plot line so when it lands,
         | you're often delightfully surprised or floored. Most kids shows
         | seem like a low effort afterthought full of contrived vapid
         | nonsense. As far as I'm concerned my kids can watch as much
         | Bluey as they like and I'll buy the shit out of their merch if
         | it signals to other networks to get off their asses.
         | 
         | Forgot to mention the animation in the show is absolutely some
         | of the best I've ever seen in a cartoon. I really appreciate
         | the way the show models real physics as things would be in the
         | real world. One of my biggest pet peeves of kids shows is when
         | they show something that is physically impossible (not for
         | comedic purpose, just lazy storytelling). It's basically just
         | thumbing its nose at kids' intelligence.
        
           | hdhfjkrkrme wrote:
           | > Most kids shows seem like a low effort afterthought full of
           | contrived vapid nonsense.
           | 
           | Kids brain is not adult brain. You need a different kind of
           | training material.
        
             | dclowd9901 wrote:
             | We're not talking about the same thing here. Lots of kids
             | shows don't even try to make sense or have a cogent story.
             | So not only are they insulting the intelligence of their
             | audience, they're also refusing to enrich their critical
             | thinking skills at all. That's the _other_ kind of kids
             | show out there right now.
        
               | hdhfjkrkrme wrote:
               | Are cartoon physics insulting kids intelligence?
               | 
               | Tom coming back 1 second after being blown up with
               | dynamite makes sense?
               | 
               | Maybe these kinds of cartoons are bad according to you.
               | 
               | There it research that kids are more interested in stuff
               | which is surprising (fixation period, ...) because that
               | builds a model of how the world works, not the easily
               | predicted stuff.
        
               | eesmith wrote:
               | > Are cartoon physics insulting kids intelligence?
               | 
               | dclowd9901 already said the issue is when it's "just lazy
               | storytelling". Pixar shows you can tell great stories
               | with cartoon physics.
               | 
               | You don't eat only sugar. You don't eat only carbs. You
               | don't eat only protein. Your body needs a mix.
               | 
               | Many people want their kids to have a healthy diet.
               | Saying Nutella is a "sometimes food" is not the same as
               | saying Nutella is "bad", or that it's a "never food."
               | 
               | Tom & Jerry is a sometimes food. Other shows exercise a
               | different range of critical skills.
               | 
               | I was gobsmaked when I saw a clip from Mr. Rogers where
               | Daniel Striped Tiger asks Lady Aberlin "What does
               | assassination mean?", in a special episode created after
               | the assassination of RFK.
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQv0ZtpRdNk And Mr.
               | Rogers could tackle racism head-on, like
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4recJ6qXyk in an era
               | when blacks were prohibited or physically attacked for
               | trying to go to "white" pools.
               | 
               | Bluey could take on these sorts of topics for kids, in an
               | age appropriate way. Tom&Jerry could not.
               | 
               | Nor could Blippi, so it's not just cartoon physics that's
               | the issue.
               | 
               | But Mr. Rogers couldn't pull off the classic "coyote
               | paints a picture in a wall, Road Runner enters the
               | picture and speeds off into the distance, coyote tries
               | and crashes into the wall" gag, nor should it. I don't
               | think it's a good idea for kids to only watch Mr. Rogers-
               | type shows either.
               | 
               | > kids are more interested in stuff which is surprising
               | 
               | Strange then that kids' cartoons are often so formulaic.
               | 
               | "The Animal Mechanicals are sent to a new floating island
               | to resolve a problem. The team comes up with a plan, and
               | each team member gets to use their special abilities to
               | help out. There are problems along the way, but they are
               | resolved and everyone is happy at the end."
               | 
               | "Something goes wrong. The Paw Patrol are called to help.
               | Ryder comes up with a plan, the pups use their special
               | abilities to help out. There are problems along the way,
               | but they are resolved and everyone is happy at the end.
               | Except for Mayor Humdinger."
        
               | dclowd9901 wrote:
               | Yep, exactly. And I should mention the show _does_ take
               | some liberties with the plot vis a vis skimming over a
               | lot of the setup of the stories. Try to imagine the
               | amount of time the kids and adults would have to take to
               | set up certain activities they do that we never see. I
               | can scarcely imagine my daughters having the patience to
               | go through with that much setup before actually getting
               | to play.
               | 
               | But it's all in service of telling a fun, unique story,
               | so it gets a pass.
        
             | pfranz wrote:
             | That's true, but just like adults, what kid's brains "need"
             | isn't always the same thing they're most stimulated by. I
             | also think since adults are often around it's very very
             | appreciated to not be obnoxious to adults.
             | 
             | Taking Bluey as a specific example, it's really nice to
             | model positive family relationships. Sesame Street's
             | original goal was to "master the addictive qualities of
             | television and do something good with them."
        
             | MarkMarine wrote:
             | Sounds like someone hasn't had to sit through blippi
        
             | NoZebra120vClip wrote:
             | Honestly, look. Human brains are not designed to passively
             | absorb audiovisual dreck that's on TV. We're humans
             | designed to interact with the natural world, plants,
             | animals, and especially one another, in tangible ways.
             | 
             | Video edutainment is a futile proposition. Get your face
             | out of the screen while you still can, and be present to
             | your fellow man.
        
               | hdhfjkrkrme wrote:
               | We're not designed to live in buildings either. Or to do
               | math. So I'm not sure about this line of reasoning,
               | because it suggests we should go back to hunter
               | gathering.
        
               | imp0cat wrote:
               | That is the point, no? That Bluey is not the average "
               | audiovisual dreck ".
        
               | 93po wrote:
               | By the previous commenters opinion I assume it is. The
               | point being to have people interact with the world
               | instead of passively accepting high levels of stimulation
               | for doing nothing. I believe it's healthier for all
               | humans of any age to engage with the input->output model
               | of the world.
        
               | dclowd9901 wrote:
               | Nope, it stands out among kids shows, which are typically
               | a wasteland of formulaic stories that amount to nothing
               | and require no introspective thinking.
               | 
               | One thing I think that illustrates this is that my
               | daughter will often have questions for me after watching
               | Bluey. Like actual meaningful questions about life or how
               | the world works. If she's watching TOTS, she's just
               | sitting there mouth agape and maybe getting bored enough
               | to just walk out of the room.
        
               | 93po wrote:
               | Again I think the premise here is that this sort of
               | engagement with the world is better done, for example, as
               | a conversation with an adult that can lead them to the
               | same interesting questions and observations. I did this
               | endlessly as a kid. I'd be sitting bored in a car and
               | look at clouds and ask my parents how clouds worked. This
               | wouldn't have happened if I was given a smart phone.
        
               | ToucanLoucan wrote:
               | Not all audio-visual entertainment is dreck and the
               | reduction of all of it to that is elitist and shitty.
               | 
               | Some kids don't live in a place where they can interact
               | with the natural world, for starters, because our society
               | is awful.
               | 
               | Additionally, not everything even in kids entertainment
               | is dreck either. You have your Bluey's, and you have
               | pregnant Elsa spiderman keyword slurry. A spectrum you'll
               | find in basically every media, kids and otherwise,
               | between actual art that's made by people wanting to share
               | something, and content-mill designed-by-committee (or AI)
               | bullshit that's designed to keep your attention.
               | 
               | The unfortunately true part is now more than ever so much
               | more of the latter of this spectrum is present than the
               | former, because everything in our society is done for
               | profit and not to make the world better, and it's far
               | more profitable to make by-the-numbers repetitive
               | minimum-viable-product garbage that people will tolerate
               | rather than truly great things that take time and care to
               | create that people adore. But that's a curation problem,
               | not a problem with the media itself.
        
         | hackernewds wrote:
         | can I watch this episode adhoc, or do I need to watch the rest?
         | emotional entertainment really gets me
        
           | yardstick wrote:
           | You can watch it adhoc.
           | 
           | Edit: Pretty much all the top Bluey episodes have a good
           | emotional pull to them. See https://www.theguardian.com/cultu
           | re/2022/mar/21/the-10-best-...
        
             | imp0cat wrote:
             | Aww, they missed Puppets, the most meta episode of them all
             | about free will!
        
               | hackitup7 wrote:
               | That was a weird dream!
        
           | dclowd9901 wrote:
           | I disagree a bit with the sibling commenter. This episode
           | falls into about the second season of the show midway
           | through. So putting yourself into that context: you're
           | watching something like 35 episodes of this show and it's
           | cute and wholesome and the stories are great, some with some
           | emotional impact, but then you get to this episode and it
           | just absolutely blindsides you.
           | 
           | So, I think it will _make sense_ on its own, but I think it
           | _really_ hits hard if 1) you weren't expecting it and 2) if
           | you have kids.
        
             | konschubert wrote:
             | I've seen the episode many times, but I don't get what's
             | the blindside?
             | 
             | Are you referring to how it references the fact that
             | parents will eventually leave their kids when they die?
             | 
             | That's only mentioned indirectly by the mom, no?
             | 
             | Is there a deeper story that I am missing?
        
               | kraquepype wrote:
               | The blindside being the unique tone of the episode,
               | compared to what came before it. It still has silliness
               | and is a fun watch.
               | 
               | Some things that I think make it hit differently:
               | 
               | * The house and most scenes are dimly lit
               | 
               | * You see the family in various stages of sleep
               | 
               | * The musical score has some intense crescendo
               | 
               | * The vulnerability it shows
               | 
               | It's a small glimpse of night time in a house with a
               | child that is still transitioning to sleeping on their
               | own. Having had kids, that weight being lifted as they
               | finally "get it" is a unique feeling of bittersweet
               | relief. It also shows the lengths the parents go through
               | to make it a graceful and comforting transition.
        
               | munificent wrote:
               | _> Having had kids, that weight being lifted as they
               | finally  "get it" is a unique feeling of bittersweet
               | relief._
               | 
               | Every milestone your kid reaches marks the end of their
               | previous self and we grieve never getting to see that
               | little person again.
        
               | konschubert wrote:
               | It's definitely an episode that stands out, that's true.
               | My daughter wants to watch it every day.
        
         | monkeydreams wrote:
         | 'Sleepytime' ruins me whenever I watch it.
        
         | a_bonobo wrote:
         | 'Onesies' and 'Babyrace' are also highly emotional episodes.
         | Onesies is, hidden for children, about the inability to
         | conceive children, not being able to deal with your relatives'
         | children; 'Babyrace' is about the doubt all parents have about
         | their parenting ('You're doing great' is aimed directly at the
         | audience)
        
           | twisteriffic wrote:
           | 'Chest' always hits me in the feels. Not subtle at all, but
           | it works.
        
             | konschubert wrote:
             | I really like the dynamic between the parents in this
             | episode. Chilly clearly doesn't think Bandits approach will
             | work, but she lets him have a go.
             | 
             | She stays around as an advocate for the other side, without
             | sabotaging his attempt.
        
               | grepfru_it wrote:
               | Is that the episode when the kid has the phone and the
               | parents are fighting in them background and the kids are
               | oblivious to it but blueys dad is and makes them mute the
               | sound? Then the other parents make peace and team up to
               | get the phone back?
               | 
               | So many episodes that all have great messaging for both
               | child and parent.
        
           | awilfox wrote:
           | Baby Race reduces me to tears every time.
        
             | mgd wrote:
             | Every single time
             | 
             | Bingo: "Are they happy tears, Mum?"
        
             | birracerveza wrote:
             | "maybe she saw something she wanted" was a gut punch of the
             | good kind
        
           | xattt wrote:
           | "Camping" shows how seemingly mundane activities become
           | fundamental family rituals, and in last 12 seconds of the
           | episode, that time together with your kids is fleeting and
           | almost ephemeral.
           | 
           | The _density_ of emotion that is packed per minute of each
           | episode is absurd.
        
           | rreyes1979 wrote:
           | Please provide the Season and episode number. I would like to
           | find them but my UI is in Spanish so it's hard to find them
           | :(
        
             | lotsofpulp wrote:
             | Onesies is s03e31 and baby race is s02e50.
        
             | V__ wrote:
             | Note: Disney+ episodes are numbered differently than all
             | other services.
        
           | germinalphrase wrote:
           | A great deal of the show is directed at parents which
           | accounts in no small part for its popularity. For instance,
           | new parents who do not have much exposure to young children
           | may find playing with their own kids to be frustrating,
           | boring, etc. The parents in the show are excellent models for
           | how to talk to, play, and have fun with young children
        
             | inerte wrote:
             | Yes, one of my surprising takeaways from this show is how
             | many new different ways I learned to play with my children.
             | It's humbling to say this, but there are genuine
             | interesting, quick, and free stuff that I learned watching
             | Bluey. I sometimes finish an episode with my daughter and
             | think "let me give this a try..."
        
           | charlangas wrote:
           | It took me reading your comment to realize that Bella's
           | "You're doing great" at the end is directed at us parents.
           | Thanks for the unexpected tears :)
        
             | metaltyphoon wrote:
             | Just watched that and both of us couldn't contain it
             | either:)
        
           | martsa1 wrote:
           | I cry my eyes out at those episodes every time I see them,
           | wonderfully written episodes! (I find all the Bluey episodes
           | are).
        
         | sspiff wrote:
         | Of all the children's programming my children have watched,
         | Bluey is by far the nicest for us (the parents) to watch or
         | listen to, and has been the most enduring in terms of
         | popularity with our kids.
         | 
         | Similar to Peppa Pig, the scenarios are often recognizable in a
         | family with young children, but they're generally funnier and
         | the characters are more loveable.
         | 
         | The animation style is a refreshing break from the bright
         | colourful garbage most CGI studios seem to churn out on an
         | assembly line.
         | 
         | And like you said, they won't pick up bad ideas from the show.
        
           | rich_sasha wrote:
           | As a dad, I used to like Peppa Pig, but now can barely stand
           | it - as opposed to Bluey.
           | 
           | Daddy Pig is fat, useless, convinced he's an expert in
           | everything but failing every time. His parenting skills hover
           | around 0, and always needs to be rescued, usually by Mummy
           | Pig. So much for healthy co-parenting.
           | 
           | Furthermore, Peppa is mean to her friends, who like her
           | regardless, she always gets special treatment.
           | 
           | I'm not saying there isn't a lot of good stuff in PP, there
           | is for sure, but the issues above feature in every episode
           | and they really get to me now.
        
             | wizerdrobe wrote:
             | That's virtually every sitcom and children's cartoon, the
             | father is a bumbling idiot. Talk about "toxic masculinity"
             | ...
             | 
             | On the other had, I wonder if that is why I gravitated
             | towards King of the Hill in my early years. Generally a
             | positive male role model, competent, trying to do the right
             | thing by his family and community.
        
               | organsnyder wrote:
               | That's one thing that makes Bluey so special. The dad
               | isn't perfect, but he's a really good father and husband.
        
               | earthboundkid wrote:
               | KotH is almost unique in that the dad isn't the dumbest
               | character. It's hard to name many other shows like this.
               | Bob's Burgers, I guess, but that's about it.
        
             | Sanzig wrote:
             | The other thing is that there is zero conflict in Peppa Pig
             | - any bad thing that happens is resolved immediately. Peppa
             | always gets what she wants. Bluey is far more realistic:
             | the parents can't just wave a wand to make Bluey and
             | Bingo's problems go away, and it leads to a life lesson.
             | 
             | For example, in the "Copycat" episode Bluey finds an
             | injured bird and she and her dad take it to the vet. It
             | dies anyway. But it's a valuable lesson for Bluey: she
             | learns that some things are out of her and her parents'
             | control and by the end of the episode she comes to accept
             | it. They would _never_ do an episode like that on Peppa
             | Pig.
             | 
             | (I currently have a Bluey-obsessed toddler).
        
               | alephnerd wrote:
               | It sounds like an Australian Arthur (which is a nice
               | thing to have)
               | 
               | So long, Spanky.
        
             | lebski88 wrote:
             | The makers of Peppa Pig made another program aimed at
             | slightly older children called Ben and Holly's Little
             | Kingdom that was much much better than Peppa Pig. It was
             | much funnier and the characters were so much better and
             | more likeable.
        
             | namdnay wrote:
             | > Daddy Pig is fat, useless, convinced he's an expert in
             | everything but failing every time.
             | 
             | I mean the guy is one of the world's top experts on
             | concrete, that's hardly "useless"
             | 
             | and the "dad is the wacky one and mum handles organising"
             | is a pretty common trope in other shows, such as... Bluey
             | :)
        
               | cornstalks wrote:
               | The difference, IMO, is that Bandit is _constructively_
               | wacky. He 's generally competent, unlike other shows
               | where only the mother is competent.
               | 
               | It's honestly refreshing seeing the two parents in Bluey,
               | because neither are being degraded and they have a good
               | relationship and exhibit good teamwork.
        
           | grepfru_it wrote:
           | If you like peppa pig, give wolfoo a chance.
           | 
           | Also the animation for bluey and peppa pig use the same
           | software, CelAction2D. There is an ending of bluey episode
           | which shows the animators using the software to build the
           | scene. My little one was amazed and asked me to get the
           | software. She has an artistic side but this pushed her into
           | learning about animation
        
         | myspy wrote:
         | We haven't watched Bluey yet but when my older kids were young
         | we watched Sarah & Duck. We loved it because it's chill and
         | relaxing and a little weird.
        
           | RecentlyThawed wrote:
           | Sarah & Duck is such a nice change from the typical loud and
           | fast action kids programming. Shaun the sheep is another good
           | slower alternative though not always as calming
        
           | darrmit wrote:
           | Sarah and Duck is a great show. We watched it all the time
           | when my 11 year old was 5-6 and my now 5 year old has grown
           | to love it as well. Agreed on the description - the
           | instrumental music is relaxing and the mix between realism
           | and complete fantasy (like when they go underwater or inside
           | the ball machine) is a lot of fun.
        
           | bjacokes wrote:
           | Sarah & Duck and Bluey are my favorite kids shows, but
           | they're very different. S&D is more quiet and contemplative,
           | whereas Bluey tends to be more playful and energetic. My
           | daughter grew out of S&D and into Bluey at around age 4.
           | 
           | I used to be frustrated that the parents in Bluey seem to
           | have endless energy and attention to devote to their kids -
           | at least with S&D, I didn't feel like there was such a lofty
           | version of parenting with which to compare myself. But I've
           | come to realize that the playful and fun dad in Bluey is a
           | much better role model, for me personally, than the dads who
           | are just sort of vanilla and kind (Daniel Tiger, Doc
           | McStuffins), not to mention the dads who are just awful
           | (Peppa Pig). Physical comedy, imaginary play, and committing
           | to the bit, are all great for having fun while also
           | connecting with young kids. Sarah and Duck obviously didn't
           | teach my any of that, so it's been a useful change of pace as
           | my daughter has gotten older.
        
             | nomdep wrote:
             | The unlimited energy becomes a little more realistic from
             | season 2 onwards, but I was annoyed too, and maybe even
             | felt guilty... prompting me to address those emotions.
             | Totally on point for the show
        
               | xyzzy_plugh wrote:
               | "gotta be done!"
        
         | xattt wrote:
         | The last available episode, Cricket, is even more devastating.
         | It shows what kind of sibling relationships can be in face of
         | family situations that might be trying for kids, and how they
         | come through for each other. I hope for my kids to have this
         | kind of bond.
        
           | jhot wrote:
           | Definitely one of my favorites and gets me emotional every
           | time. I can only hope my kids have the same empathy and
           | awareness as Rusty.
           | 
           | The Grandad episode also hits hard as my parents age and I
           | see them only a few times a year.
        
         | hiisukun wrote:
         | There's another episode, called rain, that you might enjoy if
         | you haven't seen it (and some of the sibling commenters might
         | too). There's no dialog, and it's a beautiful balance of the
         | frustration and wonder that comes with parenting.
        
           | bknight1983 wrote:
           | 'Rain' is special to me because I would do the same thing as
           | a kid, just trodding along and trying to build a dam to hold
           | the water back. My daughter and I do it now when we have a
           | big rain storm
        
           | larrymyers wrote:
           | Rain one of my favorite episodes. The amount of story packed
           | into 8 minutes with just music and animation is so good.
        
         | madcaptenor wrote:
         | I CANNOT WATCH THAT ONE, IT MAKES ME CRY.
         | 
         | I just wish they'd say what the music is in the credits - my
         | wife and I often hear something that's familiar but can't put
         | our finger on what it is.
        
           | willismichael wrote:
           | Most of the music in Sleepytime is Gustav Holst's Jupiter,
           | though I'm not sure right off the top of my head whether that
           | is used for the credits.
        
           | konschubert wrote:
           | Sleepytime uses music from Holst's "The planets". In
           | particular the piece called "Jupiter".
           | 
           | Just Google "holst Jupiter".
        
             | madcaptenor wrote:
             | Yeah, I eventually figured that one out - I was actually
             | familiar with the Holst but couldn't place it, so for a
             | while I was just thinking "oh, I know this from somewhere"
        
               | xyzzy_plugh wrote:
               | Something something national geographic
        
           | mikestew wrote:
           | Though I agree that the songs should be listed in the
           | credits, iOS has Shazam built-in now that Apple bought it,
           | which will recognize songs ("hey Siri, what's this song?").
           | I'd be shocked if Android didn't have something similar.
        
             | konschubert wrote:
             | I'm not sure if that works since at least for the classical
             | music, they seem to be recording their own versions.
        
               | madcaptenor wrote:
               | It does not work. I've tried.
        
               | mikestew wrote:
               | Ah, classical; got it. I frankly have not tried it with
               | classical, but do vaguely recall that others have
               | reported the same. Apologies for the wild goose chase.
        
           | jboggan wrote:
           | I do wish they'd mention the music and inspiration in the
           | credits. S1E17 (Calypso) is built around Camille Saint-Saens'
           | "Organ Symphony" 4th movement. S1E1 (The Magic Xylophone) is
           | based on Mozart's "Rondo Alla Turca". S1E11 (Bike) is derived
           | from Beethoven's Symphony no. 9 4th movement (a.k.a. Ode to
           | Joy). And the original music is awesome.
        
         | AuryGlenz wrote:
         | As someone that had a job that took me away from my daughter
         | too much, "The Quest" does me in. Also the infertility episode
         | hit me like a truck that I didn't see coming because we also
         | dealt with that for years.
        
         | konschubert wrote:
         | I've been trying to find out what the maker of Bluey, Joe
         | Brunn, is up to now.
         | 
         | Is there a new show coming?
         | 
         | And does anyone know where I can buy an uncensored DVD or
         | downloads collection?
        
           | charlangas wrote:
           | Last I heard he said he wasn't planning to make a 4th season
           | of Bluey. But it was worded in a way that made it sound like
           | it wasn't ruling it out completely.
           | 
           | One thing I admire about the show is that all the children
           | actors' identities are a secret. No one outside of the show's
           | team knows who voices Bluey and Bingo (other than the fact
           | that they're the daughters of someone who works on the show),
           | which probably affords those girls as much of a 'normal' life
           | as possible, something that celebrity children wouldn't ever
           | get to experience.
           | 
           | That also makes me wonder if the reason we're not getting
           | more than 3 seasons is that their voices will change. But
           | man, I really hope he puts out more stuff, whether in the
           | Bluey universe or elsewhere.
        
             | xyzzy_plugh wrote:
             | I read a conspiracy post about how the kids' voices were AI
             | (clearly not) but the post also pointed out many examples
             | of audio clips being recycled across episodes. I notice it
             | while watching now, so I think you're on to something here.
             | 
             | Conversely other shows have had many different voices
             | actors without noticeable detriment by their targets
             | audiences, such as Peppa Pig, discussed elsewhere here.
        
         | nightowl_games wrote:
         | Yes! It's the romanticization of the routine of parenting. The
         | music is so romantic and epic. I feel you!
        
         | IanCal wrote:
         | > there are a lot of episodes that are actually art.
         | 
         | Indeed, I can't emphasise enough just how much this is
         | underplayed in:
         | 
         | > One storyline contrasts the adult dogs struggling to
         | construct flat-pack furniture while the children create their
         | own adventure
         | 
         | This is a short episode that's fun for kids to watch with some
         | adventure and a bit of parents struggling to build some
         | furniture. It also covers the evolution of life on the planet
         | and futures beyond, growth, aging, letting your children go.
         | It's like 5 minutes and entirely self contained, it's truly
         | incredible.
        
           | Bjartr wrote:
           | > some adventure and a bit of parents struggling to build
           | some furniture. It also covers the evolution of life on the
           | planet and futures beyond, growth, aging, letting your
           | children go. It's like 5 minutes and entirely self contained,
           | it's truly incredible.
           | 
           | They crammed so much into so little time, it's truly
           | impressive. That episode _also_ depicts a religious creation
           | myth with the parents as deities who provide materials that
           | create the world and are depicted as gods in the kids ' "cave
           | paintings". It joins with the aging theme by having the
           | raised deck where the parents are be where the kid playing
           | the aging mother goes after her child moves on, complete with
           | a blink and you miss it homage to Michelangelo's "The
           | Creation of Adam" followed by the Dad saying "This is heaven"
           | to close the episode.
        
             | IanCal wrote:
             | > They crammed so much into so little time, it's truly
             | impressive.
             | 
             | It is. I'm aware I'm gushing about it a lot but it's very
             | impressive. It doesn't even feel rushed. To reiterate a
             | point from earlier, this is all while _being a fun thing
             | for young children to watch_.
        
           | jboggan wrote:
           | To expand - most kid shows that adults can stand to watch are
           | written to adults in some sly way that flies over the kids'
           | heads. Often that adult targeted humor is something that kids
           | have no context for (subtle sexual innuendo, pop culture
           | references) - I think the 2016 "The Jungle Book" remake is a
           | good example of this, with extended and funny references to
           | Apocalypse Now and other mature films. But Bluey will have
           | some innocuous fun episode and the subtle context is actually
           | something about death, parental legacy, being an adult with a
           | life predating your children, the pain of miscarriage, etc. I
           | don't know how they pull off addressing those topics but they
           | somehow do and it's magical.
        
         | tclancy wrote:
         | I guess I better not mention there's a really nicely printed
         | book version of "Sleepytime" then.
         | 
         | https://www.bluey.tv/products/bluey-sleepytime/
        
           | jboggan wrote:
           | Which my child demands almost every night and I struggle to
           | not choke up when I get to the "because I love you" part.
        
       | krupan wrote:
       | Just watched The Wiggles documentary on Netflix. They were big
       | when my kids were young and they are from Australia. I have heard
       | of Bluey but didn't know it was also from Australia. They know
       | something about kid shows there, apparently.
        
         | guidedlight wrote:
         | The Australian government runs a fully funded free-to-air
         | children's TV channel, called ABC Kids. Without knowing much
         | about what other countries are doing, I can probably assume it
         | one of the best children's content creators of its kind in the
         | world.
         | 
         | The channel is required to make a certain percentage of
         | Australian content, and without the need to worry about
         | advertising, subscriber numbers and merchandising revenue, it
         | has become a haven of local creativity.
         | 
         | I think Australia also struggles to find global audiences, as
         | in some ways the world is still recovering from Australian
         | craze global audiences had in the 90's (Crocodile Dundee,
         | Crocodile Hunter, Mad Max, etc). So finding a new audience with
         | children is perfect.
        
           | alephnerd wrote:
           | > Without knowing much about what other countries are doing
           | 
           | The US has PBS Kids. They produced plenty of shows like
           | Bluey, such as Arthur, Dragon Tales, Clifford the Big Red Dog
           | and Sesame Street, and a bunch of others. Idk what the lineup
           | is like today though, my experience is from the 90s-2000s.
           | 
           | In Canada, CBC also had CBC Kids, but the content was garbage
           | and not young children friendly, so most parents ended up
           | having us watch PBS or Family Channel (what Disney Channel
           | was called in Canada) instead.
           | 
           | The UK has CBeebies on BBC which had fairly decent content,
           | and often co-produced with PBS.
        
       | 29athrowaway wrote:
       | The family lives in a mansion and their entire life is about
       | playing and exploring all the time.
       | 
       | What a great way to prepare the next generation for a life where
       | most real estate will be beyond reach for most families. And
       | where most parents work all the time and are tired on weekends.
       | 
       | The series has a good soundtrack and voice acting. The mobile
       | game is fine. The Nintendo Switch game is disappointing.
        
         | aaronbrethorst wrote:
         | You're right: we should only expose our children to content
         | that makes them appreciate that they will not have to be
         | Dickensian beggars or cutpurses.
        
         | imp0cat wrote:
         | That's Australia for you.
         | 
         | Also, isn't Bandit (Bluey's dad) pretty much the definition of
         | "And where most parents work all the time and are tired on
         | weekends."? Except he's tired pretty much all the time.
        
       | laingc wrote:
       | As the father of two young daughters, I adore Bluey. Quite apart
       | from how good the episodes are for adults, I really enjoy the
       | following aspects:
       | 
       | 1. It portrays wholesome and positive family relationships,
       | particularly between father and daughters. The girls are also
       | good to one another, with occasional conflict kindly and
       | realistically resolved.
       | 
       | 2. It tells simple stories without pushing political messages.
       | Unfortunately, children's television at large has become another
       | victim of the culture wars, with heavy-handed social messages
       | infecting what should be simple cartoons. Bluey is something I
       | can trust.
       | 
       | 3. I don't have to expose my kids to American accents. They'll
       | have more than enough of that from regular programming when they
       | grow up.
        
         | JumpCrisscross wrote:
         | > _children's television at large has become another victim of
         | the culture wars_
         | 
         | Out of curiosity, as a non-parent, do any galling examples come
         | to mind?
        
         | awilfox wrote:
         | > with heavy-handed social messages infecting what should be
         | simple cartoons.
         | 
         | I kinda giggled at this, because I just last night saw "Pass
         | the Parcel", which to me was the one time they sent this up and
         | they did it so well.
        
           | robbomacrae wrote:
           | That's because its never heavy handed.. How about the episode
           | with grandpa struggling with the new app centric lifestyle:
           | Phones "Are you sure we're playing this right?". Subtly
           | provocative and brilliantly done.
        
         | test1235 wrote:
         | >2. It tells simple stories without pushing political messages.
         | 
         | I did wonder if there'd be any outcry over the DIY episode
         | which is about evolution. Certain cultures seem to have serious
         | issues with that. It did also hint at afterlife, however.
        
           | xyzzy_plugh wrote:
           | There is plenty of hinting at there being an afterlife
           | throughout the show, but it's aspirational, not prescriptive.
           | It would be nice, wouldn't it?
        
       | dexwiz wrote:
       | Kids shows teach lessons, but Bluey has all sorts of
       | compassionate parenting lessons. I would love to be as good as a
       | father as Bandit.
       | 
       | My favorite scene is him assembling flat pack furniture without
       | reading the instructions, proudly declaring he won't take advice
       | from a cartoon dog.
        
         | dclowd9901 wrote:
         | There's some really fun "blink and you'll miss it" jokes in the
         | show. At some point, one of the kids is acting like a dog, and
         | I think Chili asks Bandit "what is she doing?" And he replies
         | "I have no idea."
        
           | notaustinpowers wrote:
           | My 2 faves are 1) "Whale Watching" when Bandit and Chili are
           | clearly hungover from an NYE party. and 2) in the episode
           | "Perfect" when Bandit and Fido are talking about getting a
           | vasectomy but Chili wants to keep her options open. It was
           | risque enough that they re-dubbed it for America but the
           | subtitles are still from the original recording.
        
         | tclancy wrote:
         | >I would love to be as good as a father as Bandit.
         | 
         | Man, make sure you don't kill yourself trying! I always think
         | the other parents in the neighborhood want him to dial it back
         | so they don't look bad.
        
       | timeimp wrote:
       | The best part is how people are learning that the Disney+ version
       | is censored.
       | 
       | Yes, a childrens show is censored, in current year.
       | 
       | Why? Because some jokes don't play well with adults, even though
       | they go right over kids heads.
       | 
       | Have a Google for "Bluey censored" to see what I mean!
        
         | grendelt wrote:
         | Quite a few of those drew an eye-roll from me.
         | 
         | https://www.fatherly.com/entertainment/banned-censored-bluey...
         | 
         | A couple of them I can understand (like being safe, not showing
         | kids to slide on a wet tile floor), some I can see parents
         | being appreciative for not having to answer questions about
         | certain topics --- but some "edits" like cutting out farting
         | seems a bit too over the top. My preschooler has just
         | discovered farting and thinks it is _hilarious_ (because it
         | is!). I'm proud as can be, but Mom just rolls her eyes. Proud
         | dad here.
        
           | timeimp wrote:
           | I find it sad that even showing kids sliding on the wet tile
           | floor is edited for "being safe" - let them learn why its a
           | bad thing to do in the security of home!
        
           | Rebelgecko wrote:
           | It's ironic that they pulled an episode for using a term that
           | is offensive to indigenous Australians and "fixed" it by
           | releasing a version where the phrase was replaced with a
           | racial slur for Italian people
        
             | pcthrowaway wrote:
             | Interesting.. I've always associated "ooga booga" with
             | cavemen or proto-humans; didn't realize there were racial
             | connotations
        
               | defrost wrote:
               | As a 60 year old Australian that's heard pretty much
               | every insult thrown at Aboriginals I'd say that's more of
               | a recent "some cities" kind of thing.
               | 
               | Aboriginal players of Aussie Rules football had to put up
               | with a lot of abuse from some few members of the crowd
               | making monkey noises and shouting "ape man" and stuff
               | along those lines .. I'm guessing the "ooga booga" comes
               | from idiots chanting that from the cheap seats.
               | 
               | Adam Goodes coped the worst of it for calling them out.
               | 
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Australian_Dream_(2019_
               | fil...
               | 
               | https://thefinalquarterfilm.com.au/
               | 
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3OJ0kzSXQE
               | 
               | There are worse insults, but none of them are good.
        
           | oefrha wrote:
           | Rather ironic that the article itself is arguably censored. I
           | shouldn't have to click a link to another article and read
           | five paragraphs before finding out what the "racially-
           | insensitive term" is.
        
           | bsagdiyev wrote:
           | Yep, our son has learned he can "throw" his farts toward our
           | noses with his hands and does it every. damn. time. It is
           | hilarious but man that kid is stinky.
        
           | wnevets wrote:
           | > scene where Bluey is playing "Penguins" in the bathroom was
           | cut from the U.K. and the U.S., although it's still
           | referenced in the episode.
           | 
           | Huh? I'm pretty sure I saw this scene on Disney+.
        
         | rich_sasha wrote:
         | Fun fact: one episode of Peppa Pig was censored in Australia.
         | 
         | It was one about spiders, and basically about how spiders are
         | cute, cuddly and there's no reason to be scared of them.
         | 
         | I mean, I sympathise with the decision... Just funny.
        
           | bombcar wrote:
           | Now I'm imaging Australia requiring a disclaimer before any
           | children's show involving the outdoors or animals: "WARNING:
           | This show depicts fictitious worlds where animals and the
           | outdoors are not trying to kill you at every turn. We remind
           | you to stay indoors and stay safe."
        
             | namdnay wrote:
             | If they do that let's retaliate by prefacing all episodes
             | of Neighbours with "WARNING: This show depicts fictitious
             | worlds where it's not raining 300 days a year. We remind
             | you to stay indoors and stay dry."
        
           | xattt wrote:
           | If it goes that far, they may as well have a disclaimer to
           | set realistic expectations about maximum inclines that cars
           | can drive.
        
         | mattbee wrote:
         | Also, Disney+ plays the episodes too slowly. They come out
         | about 30s longer compared to BBC iPlayer; you can hear it in
         | the theme tune.
        
       | lettergram wrote:
       | Bluey is just a wholesome show focused on showing good role
       | models. Much of the kids TV today is just trying to distract
       | them, Bluey teaches lessons about family and is entertaining for
       | adults too.
       | 
       | Reminds me of shows like Little Bear or Magic School bus.
       | Teaching kids about topics, while entertaining them and modeling
       | good behavior.
       | 
       | One other interesting note: all the home schooled families around
       | us (from the hippy commune to survivalists, left & right) rave
       | about Bluey. So it has a very good cross ideological / cultural
       | appeal (given the global audience). Ultimately, I think it's
       | because it hits on a deep truth about supporting one another -
       | that everyone can connect with and want to pass to the next
       | generation.
        
       | stephen_g wrote:
       | One thing that I appreciate about Bluey, apart from the other
       | things people have commented on, is that the animation style is
       | very aesthetically pleasing. So many kids shows have the exact
       | same 3D CGI style, and some of them honestly look just uncanny-
       | valley creepy.
       | 
       | Another thing that most people wouldn't experience is seeing
       | episodes set in places I might have been in the last couple of
       | weeks. It's obviously stylised and interpretive, but a lot of the
       | buildings and places are very accurately represented!
        
         | TavsiE9s wrote:
         | Absolutely agree with that. Peppa Pig? Can't stand the
         | animations.
        
         | jncfhnb wrote:
         | It's because it's cheaper.
         | 
         | I don't think uncanny is the right word. It's just bad. The
         | depth and lighting is just wrong.
        
       | monkeydreams wrote:
       | One of favourite Bluey facts is that the Dad is an archaeologist
       | and the Mother works airport security.
       | 
       | One digs up bones and the other sniffs for drugs.
        
         | nightowl_games wrote:
         | Never made that connection! Thats hilarious
        
           | slipperlobster wrote:
           | Strangely enough, there seem to be a lot of hidden references
           | and callbacks in Bluey.
           | 
           | Just one source I found: https://www.reddit.com/r/bluey/comme
           | nts/ipi4ft/a_thread_for_...
        
       | yardstick wrote:
       | Anyone else for the longest time thought the opening title
       | sequence[1] was just them farting their names?
       | 
       | Turns out it's them playing stop the music, and each character is
       | called out as they keep dancing. Still, the names are definitely
       | coming from farts...
       | 
       | 1. https://youtu.be/8nv1m-aTCZI?si=gXynjB7rJpPr5Ref
        
       | neild wrote:
       | Bluey is the only show my kid loved, and never wanted to binge
       | watch. He'd watch one or two episodes and then want to turn the
       | TV off so we could play Silly Hotel or Keepy Uppy or Grannies.
       | Where other shows grabbed his attention longer, Bluey always
       | inspired him to go out and play.
        
         | awilfox wrote:
         | I think this is the real value of imaginative shows like
         | _Bluey_ - it inspires kids to use their imaginations as well.
        
       | jph00 wrote:
       | I live in the area where the show is set (the Morton Bay region
       | north of Brisbane) and it's delightful how many details we
       | recognise in the show.
       | 
       | Having lived in the US for 10 years and returning couple of years
       | ago (with my first 30 years in Australia), I feel like Bluey does
       | a great job of showing some key cultural differences between
       | these countries. I've seen some American viewers get quite cross
       | by what they see as a totally unrealistic portrayal of life, but
       | things really are pretty fundamentally different over here.
        
         | coenhyde wrote:
         | 100%. Said as an Aussie who has been living in the states for a
         | decade
        
         | badcppdev wrote:
         | I got quite excited once because I thought I recognised Mt
         | Beerburrum in the background of one of the Bluey episodes. I
         | hadn't visited that area in decades.
        
         | quink wrote:
         | Moreton Bay? Nah, their home is almost definitely around
         | Ashgrove, Red Hill, Kelvin Grove, Paddington, somewhere around
         | those parts. Suburbs just to the north-west of the CBD, based
         | on having been around those a pile and having seen most of
         | Bluey.
         | 
         | And extrapolating from things that are inevitably close, as
         | listed in https://blueypedia.fandom.com/wiki/Real-
         | Life_Locations
         | 
         | And the buses aren't Translink livery, they're all blue, white,
         | and yellow, so definitely somewhere within BCC, not Moreton Bay
         | Region (although I shouldn't assume you meant the Moreton Bay
         | council).
         | 
         | That said, you could be using Moreton Bay when you really mean
         | SEQLD anywhere north of the Brisbane River, it's been known to
         | happen.
        
         | madeofpalk wrote:
         | I'm Australian living in UK for 10 years - I haven't watched
         | it, but a friend who's a parent talks to me about it and I've
         | seen clips and it makes me nostalgic about things that I've
         | completely forgotten. Like "crumbed or battered" fish, or "bush
         | wee".
        
         | someNameIG wrote:
         | I'm Australian but never seen the show, what about it do some
         | Americans find it totally unrealistic?
        
       | gambiting wrote:
       | I feel like I'm the only parent on planet Earth that _really_
       | doesn 't like Bluey. Every time I watch it(which is often, my son
       | likes it), it just seems to be promoting bad behaviour at the
       | expense of the dad(like many other shows to be fair - looking at
       | you Peppa Pig), including physical violence(one episode the kids
       | decide the dad now has a stomach ache, so they punch him in the
       | gut - and the dad just plays along with it, it's never commented
       | on as a bad thing). And the mum keeps making reductive comments
       | and making fun out of the dad, even though he literally drops
       | everything the second his kids want anything.
       | 
       | I don't know, I just _don 't get it_. When people describe it as
       | wholesome to me it feels like the opposite - it shows an
       | unhealthy relationship between the kids and the parents, and I
       | don't feel like it teaches my son any valuable lessons at all.
        
         | awilfox wrote:
         | I don't see how there are unhealthy relationships. I will agree
         | that Bingo's behaviour in Backpackers was unacceptable - I
         | personally would have gently nudged her with a "don't play so
         | rough", which would have been a great way to reverse the lesson
         | from Yoga Ball.
        
         | lotsofpulp wrote:
         | > including physical violence(one episode the kids decide the
         | dad now has a stomach ache, so they punch him in the gut
         | 
         | They are pretend playing. There is no indication Bingo meant to
         | actually harm her dad. I pretend fight and let my toddlers beat
         | me up, but I am sure they know only to do that when pretending.
        
           | gambiting wrote:
           | The core of pretend playing, is pretending. Bluey very
           | clearly punches her dad square in the stomach, he lets out an
           | audible sound of pain, and......nothing happens. I agree that
           | maybe Bluey didn't _actually_ mean to hurt her dad - but the
           | way the scene plays out she clearly does and she isn 't told
           | about it, the dad just takes it. Because the dad is portrayed
           | as a (in this episode - literal) punch bag who has to accept
           | everything the kids do. No valuable lesson was shown or
           | taught here.
           | 
           | My opinion anyway.
        
             | indymike wrote:
             | > Bluey very clearly punches her dad square in the stomach,
             | he lets out an audible sound of pain, and......nothing
             | happens.
             | 
             | What would you like to happen? I'm not sure I understand
             | here. I'm completely ok with Bluey's dad not retaliating.
             | Being a Dad means sometimes, you have to take a punch.
        
               | gambiting wrote:
               | No one said anything about retaliating - a simple "look
               | you hurt dad, you need to be careful" would have been
               | 100% sufficient, and as another comment said - it would
               | have been a nice counter lesson to one of the previous
               | episodes about rough play.
               | 
               | >>Being a Dad means sometimes, you have to take a punch.
               | 
               | Sure - but as a dad you are also responsible for making
               | sure your child understands that hurting other people is
               | not ok, and they shouldn't do it again, pretend play or
               | not.
        
             | bglazer wrote:
             | I don't think it would make terribly compelling children's
             | television to just show the children misbehaving and the
             | dad disciplining them.
        
               | gambiting wrote:
               | Bluey is firmly in the category of shows for 2-4 year
               | olds, they _have to_ be educational at this point, I 'm
               | sorry but that's my firm stance as a parent. There will
               | be plenty of time for pure entertainment where bad
               | behaviour doesn't get corrected later - at this stage a 3
               | year old can't tell good from wrong, and the message the
               | show sends categorically cannot be "let's punch dad in
               | the stomach because it's funny".
               | 
               | Look at Peppa pig(which has a whole host of its own
               | issues, but whatever) - any time Peppa and her brother do
               | something wrong they get an explanation why it was wrong,
               | how it could have hurt or made someone else sad, they
               | apologise and sing/dance about it - most of the time it
               | teaches a good lesson while still being amusing for
               | little kids.
        
               | lotsofpulp wrote:
               | Bluey and her sister are 6 and 4 years old at the start
               | of the show, now 7 and 5. I don't think the show is made
               | with 2 year olds in mind. Maybe 3.5 and up, but a lot of
               | the concepts are for the 5+ kids in my opinion.
        
               | wharvle wrote:
               | Good children's programming often presents characters
               | somewhat older (in affect, if not truly in age, e.g. Big
               | Bird) than the target audience, to act as role models.
               | You don't want a typical 3-year-old to look to a typical
               | 3-year-old as an example for what to aspire to, you want
               | them to look at well-developing 4-, 5-, and 6-year olds.
               | This works well anyway, since children often look up to
               | older kids and are interested in what they get up to.
        
               | QuercusMax wrote:
               | This is correct. Kids generally don't like watching shows
               | for or starring "babies" (really kids their own age)
               | unless they're very small.
        
               | lotsofpulp wrote:
               | Sure, but the content of Bluey is not going to
               | understandable to a 2 year old. I would guess 3 is when
               | some basic understanding starts, but 3.5 to be safe.
               | 
               | In my experience, below 3.5 or so, more sing song-y and
               | basic repetitious stuff is digestible. Bluey episodes
               | have a plot and lots of dialogue that has to be followed.
        
               | wharvle wrote:
               | That... very much depends on the 2-year-old. Maybe true
               | on average, IDK.
        
               | gambiting wrote:
               | >> I would guess 3 is when some basic understanding
               | starts
               | 
               | My son is 2.5 and he absolutely understands what's
               | happening in cartoons. He will comment on action saying
               | clear things like "daddy he hit him in the head!" And
               | then you have to pause it and actually explain it's not
               | nice and you shouldn't do that. I wish shows clearly
               | aimed at small children didn't have those moments.
        
               | lotsofpulp wrote:
               | That is my point. Bluey's stories may require showing a
               | bad action, but a too young toddler will not have the
               | capability to understand the broader context and
               | resolution.
        
             | lotsofpulp wrote:
             | > but the way the scene plays out she clearly does and she
             | isn't told about it, the dad just takes it.
             | 
             | I did not interpret Bandit feeling any material amount of
             | pain in the scene. More like feigning it for the kids'
             | entertainment. Also, it was Bingo that punched him (the 4
             | year old).
        
         | carols10cents wrote:
         | I wish Bluey hadn't introduced the concept of a "bush wee" to
         | my kid, I've had to explain that no, we can't pee in someone's
         | yard in the middle of our busy neighborhood...
        
           | konschubert wrote:
           | Aren't there any trees or bushes that aren't privately owned?
        
             | selimthegrim wrote:
             | Sit down for this one -
             | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_That_Owns_Itself
        
           | feoren wrote:
           | This is a culture difference. The U.S. seems peculiarly
           | against this compared to most of the rest of the world. It
           | seems especially acceptable for kids most places. We may have
           | to accept that we're the weird ones on this. It's just pee.
        
         | warner25 wrote:
         | I have two data points for you:
         | 
         | My wife and I banned Bluey in our house a couple years ago. We
         | use TV as "quiet time" for our kids (currently ages 3 to 9)
         | after lunch, replacing the time when they used to nap, and
         | Bluey seems to make them go _crazy_. I haven 't even watched
         | any of the episodes, so I can't object specifically to any of
         | the content; we just observed a consistent, counterproductive
         | effect on their behavior.
         | 
         | My neighbor, another dad of two toddlers, expressed something
         | to me a few months ago that was similar to your opinion.
         | 
         | I'm honestly stunned by the overwhelmingly positive comments on
         | this thread, and I'm wondering if I should actually try
         | watching a couple of the episodes mentioned here.
        
           | konschubert wrote:
           | How come your kids are watching a show that you haven't even
           | seen a single episode of?
        
             | warner25 wrote:
             | My wife is a stay-at-home mom, so she's mostly the parent
             | with the kids in the middle of the day. I think my wife
             | first showed Bluey at the recommendation of one our
             | friends. When I'm working from home, I'm not in the same
             | room as the TV, but I do hear when things turn to mayhem so
             | I think I was the first to suggest that we stop showing
             | Bluey.
        
               | konschubert wrote:
               | I'm sorry. I think my question above was an overstep from
               | me.
        
               | warner25 wrote:
               | No problem. I could see where the question came from.
        
           | cruffle_duffle wrote:
           | > I'm wondering if I should actually try watching a couple of
           | the episodes mentioned here.
           | 
           | Yes you absolutely should. One of the things I really like
           | about the show is it promotes imaginative play. It addresses
           | things like how to deal with being bored. Shows like paw
           | patrol and stuff have zero imaginative anything. It's one of
           | the things I love about Bluey.
        
           | cptcobalt wrote:
           | Yeah, one of the resonant things i've seen in the show (as a
           | non-parent) is that it emphasizes good family _play_ , it's
           | not a very "chill" show in that sense.
           | 
           | I probably won't ever have kids, but having had a bit of a
           | tough childhood, Bluey is actually pretty stellar viewing
           | even as an adult.
        
           | drunner wrote:
           | A lot of the episodes can definitely have high energy moments
           | (or the whole episode) where the kids are running around
           | screaming, yelling, and playing. But, if you filter those
           | episodes out, there are still dozens of high quality calm and
           | thoughtful ones.
        
         | micromacrofoot wrote:
         | They all make fun of each other quite often in the series in
         | ways that can take the seriousness out of real-life parallels.
         | 
         | I find that in a sense the show takes the "bumbling dad" and
         | "uptight mom" stereotypes and kind of shows them in a more
         | realistic way that says "hey, it's alright... they care a lot
         | about each other and they figure out how it all works
         | together."
         | 
         | A kid hits dad in the groin and he doesn't try to strangle them
         | (a la The Simpsons) he absorbs a common mistake and rolls on.
         | The mom is a bit uptight, but doesn't helplessly groan in the
         | background like Marge. Sometimes these qualities are shown as
         | strengths, other times as weakness... there are entire episodes
         | where the dad's irresponsibility gets saved by mom's uptight
         | nature... or where mom is too stressed and dad needs to take
         | over and be the clown for a bit.
         | 
         | IMO it's not a show that's meant to model ideal behavior, but
         | it's about how families and relationships can work despite not
         | always being ideal.
        
         | ursuscamp wrote:
         | I have two daughters about the same age and Bluey and Bingo (6
         | and 3) and we play like that. I have found Bluey has the most
         | positive view of fatherhood of any show my kids have watched.
         | In fact, I was so taken aback by it that it stuck out to me in
         | a very noticeable way, in contrast to everything else.
        
         | Cyph0n wrote:
         | I too do not get the hype. I definitely understand why parents
         | would enjoy it - it's realistic and relatable and tries to
         | inspire parents to do more.
         | 
         | But for young children? It seems to enforce bad habits,
         | encourage rampant consumerism (the infinite amount of toys for
         | every occasion), implicitly "play along" with bad behavior
         | while ignoring dealing with punishment (at least in the
         | episodes I watched), and depict fairly unrealistic playtime
         | scenarios.
         | 
         | For younger children at least, I think PBS content does a way
         | better job. As mentioned elsewhere, for toddlers, you can't go
         | wrong with Daniel Tiger. For older children, I recommend
         | checking out Rosie's Rules and Alma's Way.
        
         | RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote:
         | You are not the only one.
         | 
         | I also think that it shows an unhealthy relationship between
         | the kids and the parents, and was banned in our household
        
       | bitwize wrote:
       | Bluey is a fair sight better than Cocomelon or Baby Shark, I'll
       | say that much. I haven't had much chance to see much of it, but
       | what I did see I liked. It's not all happy, singsongy, bright-
       | colored drivel; the characters are well-developed and have
       | struggles and meaningful arcs.
       | 
       | It helps that I'm a fan of blue heelers, the real Australian
       | shepherd (though I also love the American breed _called_
       | "Australian shepherd").
        
         | awilfox wrote:
         | > It's not all happy, singsongy, bright-colored drivel
         | 
         | "Oh man, the songs." - Bandit, "Movies".
        
         | defrost wrote:
         | > the real Australian shepherd
         | 
         | Technically breed through and through to be cattle dogs.
         | 
         | Big difference being shepherd dogs focus outwards and protect,
         | sheep dogs work and move herds on command using eyballs and
         | stalking body language, whereas cattle dogs are "heelers" they
         | get in close and literally bite the heels of massive stubborn
         | cattle that won't budge until nipped.
         | 
         | Heelers are great dogs _IF_ you can live with their needs -
         | they seriously live for three to four hours of hard exercise a
         | day, flat out running, herding, chasing, interacting. If you
         | can 't do that then don't get a heeler, they're smart and
         | you'll pay for it.
         | 
         | If you don't have a herd of cattle at least live 10 km from a
         | beach and make them run after you while you bike, motorcycle,
         | or drive slowly there.
         | 
         | Getting a throwing stick that'll travel the lebgth of a
         | football field and|or a tennis ball launcher is a good way to
         | keep them moving, they'll fetch at extreme range for good few
         | hours.
        
       | jaimex2 wrote:
       | Bluey is awesome, the one disappointing thing is hearing US and
       | UK media try and modify it.
       | 
       | A few episodes have been butchered because something was found
       | offensive - like the kids playing cavemen and saying Ooga Booga
       | or the parents sighing while weighing themselves on a scale. Come
       | on!
       | 
       | Just leave it alone and serve it as is. The creators expressed a
       | few times he's almost had enough of edits over dumb things.
       | 
       | They also tried to get re-dubs done to remove the Aussie accents,
       | luckily that was pushed back on.
        
         | cruffle_duffle wrote:
         | > They also tried to get re-dubs done to remove the Aussie
         | accents, luckily that was pushed back on.
         | 
         | There seems to have been a period in television where any
         | "hard" english accent had to have an accompanying subtitle
         | under it. Thankfully I don't seem to see this anymore.
         | 
         | One of the things I liked about Peppa Pig was my kiddo would
         | start to take a british accent and say things like "Ready,
         | Steady, Go!" or "Mum"
        
       | landswipe wrote:
       | Bluey is female, blew my mind when I first learnt this after
       | watching a few episodes.
        
       | oska wrote:
       | Couple of nice attention to local detail things in _Bluey_ :
       | 
       | 1. The internal walls of Bluey's house are timber using VJs
       | (vertical joins), typical in Queenslanders (historical style of
       | house in Brisbane & Queensland).
       | 
       | 2. The panoramic shots of Bluey's house identifies it to locals
       | as clearly situated somewhere in the city's hilly inner west,
       | with St. Brigid's Church [1] in Red Hill identifiable, as well as
       | Mount Coot-tha in the background.
       | 
       | Of course, there's a lot more in the drawings that shows local
       | detail (plants, animals, etc). The above are just two that are
       | particularly nice for Brisbane ppl to see and recognise.
       | 
       | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Brigid's_Church,_Red_Hill
        
       | awilfox wrote:
       | I'm going to be honest here: _Bluey_ means a lot to me, as a
       | 32-year-old childless woman, because this show has really touched
       | me in ways that may not be obvious at first:
       | 
       | I've felt more in touch with my own imagination since I started
       | watching Bluey. I've actually been writing music and sketching in
       | my spare time again, which is something I haven't done since
       | before the pandemic.
       | 
       | It's actually helped me piece together things that I felt as a
       | child that I never properly dealt with, or even knew how to voice
       | back then. I've been able to find healing and peace, and
       | articulate stuff in therapy a bit better.
       | 
       | In general, I just feel a bit happier and a bit better after
       | watching an episode of Bluey. Sometimes I just want to watch
       | something to feel positive emotions without it being overly-happy
       | fluff. There's a realism to Bluey that makes it easier for me to
       | "let my guard down" and feel happiness.
       | 
       | I do kind of live vicariously through Chilli, with my hope being
       | that I can be a mum some day.
       | 
       | Oh, and my cat now has a nickname: Muffin. Make of that what you
       | will.
        
         | throwaway87651 wrote:
         | I hope you get to be a mum. You sound like someone thoughtful
         | and imaginative, which are great qualities for being a parent.
         | Infinite patience would also help - I'm still trying to develop
         | that myself!
        
         | willismichael wrote:
         | > Oh, and my cat now has a nickname: Muffin. Make of that what
         | you will.
         | 
         | My daughter sent me a meme with the punchline "When you think
         | your child is Bluey but really your child is Muffin". Make of
         | that what you will :)
        
           | _justinfunk wrote:
           | Can you share?
        
             | willismichael wrote:
             | Here it is, I got the wording wrong in my previous message,
             | but the idea is the same: https://www.reddit.com/r/bluey/co
             | mments/xk4lvw/not_my_child/
             | 
             | Edit: I have to admit that Muffin is my favorite character
             | in that show. Make of that what you will.
        
         | gadders wrote:
         | Best of luck - I hope it happens for you.
        
       | mayd wrote:
       | For those who want to see quirky Australian children's television
       | programming for older children may I suggest this?
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_the_Twist
        
       | lmpdev wrote:
       | One underrated aspect of the show is the backgrounds being
       | grounded in reality
       | 
       | I live in the city (Brisbane) the show is set in
       | 
       | Effectively every detailed background is recognisable but
       | tastefully selected (not shoved down the viewer's throat)
       | 
       | If you do ever visit Australia, take the kids to see Brisbane
       | 
       | My partner manages front of house for the Live Action Bluey
       | theatre show, she was the first person to put Bluey on my radar
       | (we have no children)
       | 
       | The live action show was so popular they've recently just put it
       | on for a second session
       | 
       | The kids get to watch Bluey inside the QPAC building (a common
       | background in the show, next to the Eye of Brisbane)
        
       | bknight1983 wrote:
       | The beauty of Bluey is that, for me at least, all the games were
       | games we played as kids (keepy uppy, shadowlands, mucking around
       | in the stream). Now my kid wants to play these games (and not be
       | on a screen) and I get to play again. Everyone wins
        
       | anotherevan wrote:
       | Something else that is kind of awesome is you occasionally get
       | posts on the /r/australia Reddit group along the lines of, "I saw
       | this on Bluey, do you really do that in Australia?"
       | 
       | E.g.
       | https://old.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/16a8s6d/clothes_...
        
       | bobsmith432 wrote:
       | My niece likes this show and I had never heard of it before. When
       | I was a kid I liked cartoons that were on the air like 5-10 years
       | before because even when I was 5 I found newer cartoons annoying.
       | This one was pretty neat though and I agree it's refreshing after
       | seeing the slop on the screen blasting from iPad kids.
       | 
       | One thing I really appreciate is that it's quiet, the characters
       | are soft spoken, stock sounds don't play constantly, there isn't
       | constant music, it's simple and doesn't make my head hurt.
        
       | programmertote wrote:
       | A bit tangential but also related -- I grew up watching
       | 'Adventures of the Gummi Bears' back in the late 80s and early
       | 90s. Recently, I came across it on Disney+ and re-watched it. I
       | was pleasantly surprised that some of the episodes are teaching
       | kids good (again, subjective) morals and behaviors. The language
       | is never crass even when the characters are upset (meaning it's a
       | good thing to teach kids). I liked it so much that I re-watched
       | all of the six seasons twice.
       | 
       | Now that I saw this article and discussion, I'll be trying Bluey
       | next.
        
       | mgd wrote:
       | The most interesting part for me is the relationship with the
       | parents and children.
       | 
       | Compared to what I was brought up with (The Simpsons etc) it's
       | nice that children are not only taught interesting values but
       | also what the values of parents are
        
         | coenhyde wrote:
         | It's cool to see Australian values & parenting techniques
         | propagating into American society. Our conquest will be
         | complete soon :)
        
         | paradox460 wrote:
         | There's a YouTube video essay I watched a month or so back that
         | touched on this. It looked at parental figures throughout the
         | history of television and used them as a reflection for
         | generational ideals of what a parent should be
         | 
         | The boomers parents made shows like Father knows best, leave it
         | to beaver, etc, where the father was an almost unimpeachable
         | authority figure. Boomers (and gen x) made shows like the
         | Simpsons and family guy, where the oaf father comes in, and
         | family is mostly viewed as dysfunctional, an obligation rather
         | than something to be enjoyed. Gen x produced shows like Bob's
         | burgers which removes some of the physical violence of the
         | family but maintains the Father as an aloof oafish character.
         | And millennial fathers, as depicted by TV, are like bandit. The
         | oaf is gone, but so is the dictatorial authority figure.
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRN5gKC9_CU
        
       | maztaim wrote:
       | As a parent, I love watching all the episodes. My 5 year old also
       | loves watching it. One of the few good children shows that has
       | great entertainment with great values for all.
       | 
       | My favorites are always the grannies ("Oh no, my coins!"). My
       | wife loves "Fairytale" because we both grew up in a far off place
       | called the 80s and can relate to all of it.
        
         | mywacaday wrote:
         | The episode where the mother tries to get her father to slow
         | down and take care of himself because she knows he won't be
         | around forever is a hard watch since my mother passed away.
         | Also where the kids jump on the dads groin by accident and all
         | you see is a raised eyebrow and a very slight groan is one all
         | dad's can appreciate. A truly wonderful show.
        
       | nightowl_games wrote:
       | It's truly a show about parenting. It covers realistic themes
       | about parenting. It's very well written. With childrens shows,
       | it's easy to make a show appeal to kids. Cocomelon is basically
       | loved by every child ever, but its so annoying to parents. Bluey
       | is great because the parents like it.
        
         | larrymyers wrote:
         | It's a great show that demonstrates how to play with your kids.
         | Though I do appreciate the episodes where the parents are
         | exhausted, or must do chores, instead of playing with their
         | kids.
        
           | drunner wrote:
           | Showing the parents at the end of their ropes is really great
           | to see. I love their pixar style adult only quips that get
           | added from time to time. In the claw episode for example,
           | Bandit (the dad) says `Magic Claw has no children. His days
           | are free and easy` and it always cracks me up.
        
       | ceedan wrote:
       | Bluey is great and we love it, but I do have to say that it is
       | not as directly beneficial for very young children as something
       | like Daniel Tiger. Daniel Tiger has episodes that directly and
       | clearly address things that young children are going through
       | (little siblings, using the bathroom, managing emotions, etc).
       | Bluey has episodes that address those things but does so in ways
       | that are less direct and comprehensible for a pre-school child.
       | Many Bluey episodes are more for the parents, than the children.
       | Bluey will be with us long after our last Daniel Tiger episode is
       | watched.
        
         | navbaker wrote:
         | I will be singing "if you have to go potty STOP! and go right
         | away" until the day I die.
        
         | wharvle wrote:
         | I know it's a little thing, Daniel Tiger's very-heavy autotune
         | on all the singing (and there's a lot of singing) drives me
         | nuts. I'd be shocked if Fred Rogers would have been OK with it.
         | Young kids should hear natural singing voices in media aimed
         | directly at them.
        
         | feoren wrote:
         | Daniel Tiger is so much more difficult to watch as an adult,
         | but I have to give it credit for its potty training episode:
         | that was a _huge_ help when trying to potty train our 2.5-year-
         | old. So I definitely agree that a targeted application of
         | Daniel Tiger can really help, and also easier to digest for a
         | pre-schooler.
         | 
         | However, I do think that having complex messages that aren't
         | easy to understand is probably important for young children.
         | "The world is a complicated place" is a lesson I wish even more
         | adults understood. And I've learned that children may show no
         | comprehension of something the first few times they hear it,
         | but it's _in_ there, making connections, shaping the brain as
         | it grows. I can 't tell you how many times I've told my
         | daughter something I thought went way over her head (and did,
         | at first), but randomly came out again months later. So by all
         | means go for the simple Daniel Tiger message when it helps them
         | through a problem they're having. But don't underestimate their
         | capacity for deeply integrating ideas from everything they see
         | and hear -- and I love Bluey for being by far the best young
         | kids' show for them to integrate into their brains.
        
           | robbomacrae wrote:
           | I agree Daniel Tiger is great for targeting particular
           | challenges with those little sing songs they do to help kids
           | learn and also targets a slightly younger audience. When we
           | were having our 2nd and our 1st was 2 years old we played the
           | baby episode a few times "a baby is coming to our family...".
           | Our son welcomed our newborn daughter perfectly and somehow
           | even found a little red book to (almost) drop on her.
           | 
           | I love that this post is on HN. It's helping me frame why I
           | like Bluey so much. I'm also going to try that Sarah and Duck
           | mentioned elsewhere.
        
       | sandworm101 wrote:
       | Does anyone else note the underlying racial component? All the
       | dog families seem to be purebred. I don't remember seeing any
       | mutts, any _mixed-race_ dogs. And there are a few references to
       | certain breeds of dog being better at certain things. I 'm sure
       | it is totally unintentional and probably cuts on dialoged by
       | identifying which kids are from which parents, but it did strike
       | me as odd.
        
         | namdnay wrote:
         | having specific breeds and colours for each family makes it a
         | lot easier to track what's going on. for the same reasons that
         | peppa pig doesn't have 8 different types of big cats
        
         | cruffle_duffle wrote:
         | > And there are a few references to certain breeds of dog being
         | better at certain things.
         | 
         | I mean, different dog breeds have different talents. In Bluey,
         | the Sausage Dog has his moment where he can't run very well but
         | he can roll (at least I think that was how it went). All the
         | different dog breeds get get to use their special talents.
        
         | evan_ wrote:
         | I mean Bandit and Chili are different (though related) breeds
         | and the kids each have traits from their parents... Bluey has
         | her dad's coloration and mom's spots, and Bingo is orange like
         | her mother but otherwise looks like Bandit.
        
       | ashton314 wrote:
       | Has anyone else noticed that "Camping" is basically the Star Trek
       | TNG episode Darmok? Bluey meets a _French_ dog named _Jean-Luc_.
       | They construct some shelter together and have to hunt a monster.
       | (I.e. Bandit pretending to be a wild boar.) They find a way to
       | communicate despite speaking different languages. One leaves.
       | Shaka, when the walls fell.
       | 
       | In the end, Muffin, her scream echoing--Bluey and Jean-Luc, their
       | tails wagging!
       | 
       | (My wife who's not really an Trekkie pointed this out to me. Also
       | there's another read about Jean-Luc's departure as death and an
       | eventual reunion in the afterlife when we will all finally
       | understand each other. Read it as you like it.)
        
         | longwave wrote:
         | I love it when kids shows do things like this. The BBC show Hey
         | Duggee has an episode called The River Badge which is a homage
         | to Apocalypse Now, recreating a number of similar scenes and
         | pieces of dialogue. Other episodes have references to other
         | movies that kids won't know but that are great fun for adults
         | when they notice.
        
         | xyzzy_plugh wrote:
         | Wow. Thanks, I can't unsee this now.
         | 
         | Chilli's wisdom definitely hits hard if you have full context.
         | The ending of this episode (and even the book version) nearly
         | brings me to tears every time.
        
       | ursuscamp wrote:
       | Bluey blew me away when I saw it with my daughter. It's sweet,
       | positive, emotional, well written. It's not the slightest bit
       | cynical, handles every issue with tact, doesn't contain heavy
       | handed messaging and has traditional values. It also has a very
       | positive two parent dynamic. This is an absolute unicorn of a
       | show.
       | 
       | Note: my usage of "traditional values" is not meant to evoke
       | anything political or intended to be interpreted from a culture
       | war lens. I just mean it positively portrays a family dynamic
       | that can be universally appreciated.
        
         | KnlnKS wrote:
         | It *blue* you away?
        
         | pylua wrote:
         | It also sets the bar very high for parents.
        
           | cfiggers wrote:
           | Yes--in an encouraging way.
        
             | williamcotton wrote:
             | Eh, well, I dunno. I've got kids and I don't personally let
             | them give me as much crap as Bluey and Bingo do. Like, if
             | they're running up to the screen at a kids movie I'm taking
             | them home. There's other people in the theatre to consider.
             | Kids need boundaries along with compassion, and yes, I know
             | that there are the odd Bluey episodes that deal with
             | boundaries, not getting what you want, etc...
             | 
             | ...but there's a lot of what seems like the kids just
             | steamrolling their parents. That's not sustainable for me.
             | Being a parent is like having two full time jobs. It's hard
             | enough as it is to just get through the day. The bar is set
             | a little too high.
             | 
             | But hey, my wife and I agree with this, so y'all do you!
             | I'm sure most of our kids will probably turn out just fine
             | no matter how much we model ourselves after Bandit and
             | Chili.
             | 
             | I think it is a wonderful show regardless.
             | 
             | Edit: Knowing the average age in this industry, I have the
             | distinct feeling that quite a few people who are not
             | parents are involving themselves in these discussions and
             | moderations. Just wait. I'm offering a realistic viewpoint
             | positioned against a cartoon. And I'm not being a jerk
             | about it.
        
               | quickcheque wrote:
               | I tend to view parenting discussions on HN with a strong
               | gell mann weight.
        
           | earthboundkid wrote:
           | My friend says she tries to model herself on the Mum from
           | Bluey.
           | 
           | I say it gives children unrealistic ideas about how much play
           | time the average parent can engage in without getting a crick
           | in their back.
        
             | vinaypai wrote:
             | Children are capable of understanding the difference
             | between pretense and reality.
             | 
             | My 4 year old loves playacting scenes and games from Bluey
             | but he also understands that I'm not an anthropomorphic
             | dog. Or, for that matter that our dog can't do most of the
             | things the dogs on Bluey can.
        
           | stiiv wrote:
           | You're right, though a "high bar" in itself is not a bad
           | thing! Hopefully not too many people struggle with pressure
           | to behave like cartoon dogs. On the other hand, we might all
           | take some inspiration from them here and there.
           | 
           | I think you can also see a shift to "lower the bar," though,
           | especially in the third season. Bandit also seems to take a
           | less prominent role. This was disappointing to my family; it
           | seemed like some of the show's "purity" was lost to social
           | pressure or something.
        
           | drunner wrote:
           | My wife and I discussed this too. We just remind ourselves
           | that the episodes are 8 minutes long (yes, the plots
           | sometimes are for a whole day), so realistically the parents
           | could be spending all this 'time' which is just in 8 minute
           | increments throughout a day/week.
           | 
           | But yes, ignoring that kind of reasoning, it does set a very
           | high bar.
           | 
           | Also, the parents do have quips/groaning about the requests
           | of the kids from time to time which is does add to the
           | authenticity.
        
           | pipes wrote:
           | Is that a bad thing? (I'm a parent and I love it)
        
         | no-dr-onboard wrote:
         | Yeah I'll go further.
         | 
         | - It doesn't display the dad as a bumbling idiot for a start,
         | an unmistakably uncommon move in home set shows.
         | 
         | - It doesn't synthetically force women to the center stage for
         | the sake of scoring points with left leaning audiences.
         | 
         | - It doesn't shoehorn in political messages that don't belong
         | and largely harkens back to a time where childrens television
         | didn't require scrutiny of the publisher just to see if it fit
         | the parent's flavor of morality.
         | 
         | - It largely fits the _actual_ day-to-day life experiences of
         | individuals who are most likely to have kids young enough to
         | watch Bluey, namely millennials.
         | 
         | - Parent's are main characters in a lot of the episodes: The
         | parents in Bluey aren't some side-object only included for the
         | sake of completeness. The parents _are_ main characters and are
         | developed as thoughtfully as the children. By doing this the
         | producers were able to garner attention from both the children
         | and the parents. It 's honestly a bit of a shame that we've
         | sidelined parents for so long for fear of offending people.
         | 
         | - The show unashamedly depicts an intact household with two
         | loving, heterosexual parents. It's "stunning and brave" in the
         | current culture.
         | 
         | - The show depicts two children who are absolutely uninvolved
         | or unconcerned with their sexual identity, despite the current
         | narrative being that they are the age at which they should be.
         | 
         | - The show is diverse, but not for the sake of checking a box.
         | There is no prioritized group in the show and tension between
         | the breeds of dogs are displayed as equitable and able to
         | relate to one another with minimal conflict (much like in real
         | life, despite what you may have heard).
         | 
         | - There is no mention of a god. There is no big G god, nor any
         | pagan gods. There are no "spirits", no "forces", no "inner
         | being" that is wrestled with. It's a kids show and stays a kids
         | show.
         | 
         | I could go on, but at this point I feel I've overstayed the
         | common HN user's tolerance.
        
           | skyyler wrote:
           | >- The show unashamedly depicts an intact household with two
           | loving, heterosexual parents. It's "stunning and brave" in
           | the current culture.
           | 
           | You seem to be implying that it's abnormal for heterosexual
           | parents to be depicted in children's media. Is that what you
           | meant?
           | 
           | >- The show depicts two children who are absolutely
           | uninvolved or unconcerned with their sexual identity, despite
           | the current narrative being that they are the age at which
           | they should be.
           | 
           | Hm, the "current narrative"? What do you mean by that?
        
           | ben_w wrote:
           | > It doesn't shoehorn in political messages that don't belong
           | and largely harkens back to a time where childrens television
           | didn't require scrutiny of the publisher just to see if it
           | fit the parent's flavor of morality.
           | 
           | As a child of the Captain Planet and D&D moral panic era,
           | when was this time you harken back to?
        
           | afavour wrote:
           | > The show unashamedly depicts an intact household with two
           | loving, heterosexual parents. It's "stunning and brave" in
           | the current culture.
           | 
           | Eh? I'm trying to think of peer shows of Bluey... Peppa Pig
           | and Daniel Tiger come to mind (Trash Truck anyone? Charming
           | little show), heterosexual parents are by far and away the
           | norm. The idea that it's "brave" to show them feels like a
           | conservative talking point that's out of step with reality.
           | 
           | > unconcerned with their sexual identity, despite the current
           | narrative being that they are the age at which they should be
           | 
           | Speaking of conservative talking points... again, I'm really
           | struggling to think of peer shows that have six year olds
           | discussing their sexual identity.
        
             | geraldwhen wrote:
             | Owl doesn't have a mother. Miscellena is from an
             | interracial household. Crissy has a physical disability of
             | some kind and cannot walk.
             | 
             | Daniel tiger jams in diversity at every opportunity.
             | 
             | It's handled far better than anything Disney creates, I'll
             | give you that, but it is not simply the story of a nuclear
             | family.
        
               | skyyler wrote:
               | Chrissie is based on a character from the original Mr
               | Rogers show.
               | 
               | You are trying to find things to be mad about, it seems.
               | 
               | "interracial household"? That's something you take issue
               | with?
        
               | afavour wrote:
               | > Daniel tiger jams in diversity at every opportunity.
               | 
               | It clearly doesn't given that Daniel Tiger's family, the
               | primary family unit of the show, is a heterosexual
               | couple.
               | 
               | > interracial
               | 
               | I guess I'm losing track of what we're supposed to be
               | offended about now. OP suggested that depicting a
               | heterosexual couple was "brave", I pointed out that it
               | happens all the time. Are we now arguing that there
               | should be absolutely no instances of mixed-race,
               | orientation or disabilities in kids shows at all?
        
               | nindalf wrote:
               | > Miscellena is from an interracial household
               | 
               | I'm so sorry you and your child had to witness that. Must
               | have been quite traumatic.
        
               | sophacles wrote:
               | Wow, so you're offended by:
               | 
               | diversity (aka the acknowledgement that people of
               | different ethnic/racial/religious/etc backgrounds can
               | interact without conflict)
               | 
               | single parents (in a country with an absurdly high
               | divorce rate)
               | 
               | interracial couples
               | 
               | physical disabilities
               | 
               | That's just kinda gross.
        
               | theultdev wrote:
               | He never said he was offended by those things.
               | 
               | Just those things don't always need to be in all kid
               | shows.
               | 
               | You can support those ideals and not want pandering in
               | your show.
               | 
               | Crazy, I know.
        
               | sophacles wrote:
               | Is it pandering? None of those things are rare, and I'd
               | be surprised to find out any significant portion of the
               | population wouldn't encounter them in their own school.
               | It's literally just a representation of the real world.
               | 
               | I guess preparing children for the world that exists is
               | "woke" or something.
        
               | theultdev wrote:
               | Bluey prepares kids more for the real world more than the
               | corporate HR messages the US shows have.
               | 
               | It's not about checking diversity boxes, it's about
               | handling your emotions.
               | 
               | And yes, we're all tired of "woke" shit, that's not the
               | real world, but it tries to parade as it is.
        
               | bcrosby95 wrote:
               | In my 8 year old's classroom there is:
               | 
               | A kid in a wheelchair. Another with mild autism. Another
               | whose being raised by the grandparents because her mother
               | is a drug addict. Another with pretty severe alopecia
               | (this being her "best friend"). One of her other friends
               | has been very sad because her aunt was killed in Israel.
               | 
               | This is all "real world". And it affects us despite it
               | not happening to our family. At least not yet.
        
               | theultdev wrote:
               | You teach morals to handle all situations.
               | 
               | You don't have to directly have brokenness, sex, rape,
               | drugs, and murder in kids shows even if those things
               | exist in the real world.
        
               | sophacles wrote:
               | I find it easier to learn abstract things like morals
               | when there are also examples presented along-side them.
               | More so when those examples are practical and applicable
               | to my life. I find this to be a common sentiment.
               | 
               | Are you really trying to say that showing brown people
               | and kids with a single parent is equivalent to showing
               | rape and drug use?
               | 
               | Perhaps you should pause and reflect on your own morals
               | if you think these are equivalent.
        
               | skyyler wrote:
               | Any inclusion is pandering to some people.
        
               | theultdev wrote:
               | Yes pandering is relative.
               | 
               | So the GP was happy with a show that was relevant to his
               | family.
               | 
               | Yeah I think we're on the same page.
        
               | skyyler wrote:
               | It's almost like people just want to be upset about how
               | other people are living their lives for some reason.
        
               | theultdev wrote:
               | Yup, just let people enjoy Bluey and live their own
               | lives.
               | 
               | There's plenty of "woke" stuff to enjoy if you want to
               | live life that way.
        
               | skyyler wrote:
               | Oh, believe me, gay and trans furries love Bluey. It's
               | pretty much our fav thing, it's so insanely popular with
               | the LGBT+ crowd.
        
               | theultdev wrote:
               | Ok? My Little Pony was in the same boat. Doesn't really
               | change anything.
        
               | skyyler wrote:
               | It's insanely popular and I certainly don't want to stop
               | anyone from enjoying it :)
               | 
               | Was it pandering when My Little Pony had a lesbian
               | couple?
        
               | theultdev wrote:
               | Never watched it, my point was another group enjoying
               | something doesn't really effect what another group gets
               | out of it.
               | 
               | For me it depends on how it's presented. The characters
               | shouldn't announce what they like to fuck. That's
               | jarring, pandering, and very inappropriate.
               | 
               | No idea how it was portrayed so I can't say.
        
               | skyyler wrote:
               | >The characters shouldn't announce what they like to
               | fuck.
               | 
               | Has that happened in a kids show you've seen?
        
               | theultdev wrote:
               | No. The shows I screen never say or portray anything
               | sexual.
               | 
               | They will find out that out on their own, without the
               | help of kid shows.
               | 
               | I have no idea what the character's sexual preferences
               | are and I don't want to know.
               | 
               | Curiously, how was it presented that they were lesbian,
               | and who was lesbian? One of the ponies? lol.
        
               | skyyler wrote:
               | Wait, why did you bring up characters on children's show
               | announcing their sexual proclivities then?
               | 
               | Are you just getting angry about a hypothetical? Help me
               | understand where you're coming from please
        
               | theultdev wrote:
               | I'm not angry? And I didn't bring it up, you brought up
               | the lesbian in MLP.
               | 
               | How was it presented in the show?
        
               | skyyler wrote:
               | Why did you bring up whether the characters want to fuck?
        
               | theultdev wrote:
               | Because that's what your sexual preference essentially
               | is.
               | 
               | Why is it relevant in a kid's show?
        
               | skyyler wrote:
               | There's so much more to relationships and human
               | connection and even romantic relationships than that.
               | 
               | Get your mind out of the gutter.
        
               | theultdev wrote:
               | Connections can be made in kids show without referencing
               | sexual preferences, that's my point.
               | 
               | I just fail to see why you need to make a pony a lesbian
               | in a kids show.
               | 
               | Why bring that up at all?
        
               | skyyler wrote:
               | Why bring up couples at all?
               | 
               | Are the heterosexual couples going to tell the kids about
               | the sex they're having?
        
               | theultdev wrote:
               | That's why I said it's how it depends how it's presented,
               | and you never explained so I don't know if it was
               | appropriate or not.
               | 
               | Many kids shows I enjoyed never had _any_ couples or
               | parents in them, which avoids that altogether.
        
               | eterpstra wrote:
               | Jack has ADD Chili's sister is infertile Winton, Judo,
               | and the Terriers are from single parent households
               | There's a deaf kid featured in Turtleboy There's a
               | wheelchair kid in Quiet Game "Chocolate Milk" from
               | Tradies is in a mixed breed relationship In fact, the
               | whole fact that different breeds are interacting is an
               | allegory for racial inclusion.
               | 
               | So yeah, Bluey gets a little "woke" here and there.
               | Sorry, not sorry.
        
               | fredoliveira wrote:
               | > Owl doesn't have a mother. Miscellena is from an
               | interracial household. Crissy has a physical disability
               | of some kind and cannot walk.
               | 
               | Oh man, god forbid a child being exposed to the vile,
               | vile ideas of single parenthood, interracial love, or
               | physical disability! How dare they, I say!
               | 
               | Sigh.
        
               | evan_ wrote:
               | > Miscellena is from an interracial household
               | 
               | it's "Miss Elaina", you racist dipshit
        
             | netchkin wrote:
             | This reminds me I never cracked how society works in Bing,
             | as well as how kids are born.
        
             | rglullis wrote:
             | Never seen Daniel Tiger, but Peppa Pig makes the Dad the
             | butt of the joke and portrays him as the overconfident
             | idiot in pretty much every story, while all moms are always
             | infallible.
             | 
             | It's not something that kids might consciously notice, but
             | it's grating and not what I'd exactly call a positive
             | message.
        
               | mywacaday wrote:
               | My wife and I don't like Peppa for that very reason. One
               | of its main catchphrases is "silly daddy".
        
           | 174ac09182ad3fd wrote:
           | I'm amazed that you've written this post (presumably in good
           | faith) and not provided a single concrete example.
           | 
           | The replies disagree with your assertions and are providing
           | concrete examples. All of the replies are civil. One might
           | call it civil discourse.
           | 
           | However, I suspect from the priming of your last line that
           | you will not view it that way, and instead view it as "the
           | average HN user" being intolerant of your ideas.
           | 
           | Instead, may I suggest engaging with the replies?
        
       | johnnythunder wrote:
       | Also interesting is the strangeness of the theme song time
       | signature and game that goes along with it!
       | https://www.businessinsider.in/entertainment/news/people-are...
       | https://eightify.app/summary/music-and-performance/decoding-...
        
       | ramesh31 wrote:
       | Millenials and Gen Xers (the cohort of which are now raising
       | young children) were raised in a cultural wasteland of sarcasm
       | and irony poisoning, that arose as a response to the perceived
       | "campiness" or naivety of sincere art. And we were force fed it
       | for decades until our "guffaws" and recognition of it were
       | habitual, instinctive, and always expected. Nothing could
       | possibly ever be funny without being hyper self-aware and
       | critical of everything.
       | 
       | The reason these new shows are connecting with us now is
       | precisely because of their outright rejection of this. Sometimes
       | things _can_ just be nice, and fun, and good, and there 's no
       | smirk to the camera, or higher level joke being made. It just is.
       | 
       | Postmodern meta-irony is out. Radical sincerity is in.
        
       | Arubis wrote:
       | I'm also a girl dad (ages 3 and 4) and Bluey is a total favorite
       | in our (mountain west US) household. In utter contrast to the
       | singsongy dreck of CocoMelon and its imitators, our kids actually
       | take away memorable lessons they enjoy (going to bed like a big
       | girl, like Bingo!), and my wife and I regularly comment that we'd
       | watch the show on our own without the kids for its sheer
       | relatability.
       | 
       | It's an absolute gem, folks.
       | 
       | If you're so inclined, we found a nice cake topper on Etsy for
       | _my own_ birthday this year:
       | https://www.etsy.com/listing/1481048560/inspired-bluey-caket...
       | turns out to be easily adapted to read "Turning 40" rather than
       | "Turning 4". Super cute & the girls adored it.
        
         | natpalmer1776 wrote:
         | I love the cake topper idea! Saving this for my next birthday
         | :)
        
       | eggy wrote:
       | Love this show!
       | 
       | Although the Dad never seems to work, plays all day, and sets the
       | bar pretty high for me especially on the last 2 of my 5 children.
       | I'm out of steam.
       | 
       | I too succumb to the emotional episodes, and I am grateful for
       | every tear I share with my kids!
       | 
       | I grew up watching Bugs Bunny, Davy and Goliath, Gumby, and All
       | in the Family as a young kid for a contrast!
        
         | xuther wrote:
         | I love that they even address that in one of the episodes. In
         | Tickle Crabs:
         | 
         | Bluey: "You're always at work!" Bandit: "I'm never at work!"
         | 
         | What a gem of a show, though yes, it does set the bar pretty
         | high. Though on the plus side I can now burst into a room shout
         | "It's Dad" and my 4 year old will reliably slow clap and then
         | burst into laughter :P
        
           | drunner wrote:
           | Mine is 'Whats up party people' which he also uses in
           | multiple episodes.
        
         | xyzzy_plugh wrote:
         | You have to read between the lines and pickup the hints but
         | they both work, ostensibly. There are plenty of episodes where
         | the kids are at daycare/with family that imply the parents are
         | working. Many episodes take place on weekends, and I get the
         | impression the mom sometimes works on weekends.
         | 
         | I will say that Bandit definitely gives off a vibe of being
         | flexible, but I never got the impression it's deliberate. He
         | cares more about his kids than work. At least, that's my
         | interpretation.
        
         | thepasswordis wrote:
         | There's a whole episode about dad having to working and the
         | kids bothering him while he does!
        
       | aetherson wrote:
       | Here's a somewhat embarrassing admission: I never appreciated
       | Holst's "The Planets" until I saw it used (particularly
       | "Jupiter") in a Bluey episode.
        
         | feoren wrote:
         | Jupiter is a masterpiece. Mars is fine. Honestly the rest of
         | the Planets Suite is kind of a pass unless you're studying
         | music. Of course Jupiter is the one they remix ("arrange"?) in
         | Bluey.
        
           | aetherson wrote:
           | Yeah, I think that part of my problem is I often heard people
           | talk about Mars, so I tried to use that as my entrypoint into
           | the suite, and to my ear Jupiter is much better.
        
       | contemporary343 wrote:
       | Bluey is great. For younger ones, Tumble Leaf (sadly now
       | discontinued) is also wonderful - clay-mation, gentle with lovely
       | music and promoting a sense of discovery.
        
         | larrymyers wrote:
         | I had almost forgotten about Tumbleleaf. Such a gem of a show.
         | The submarine episodes really stand out.
        
       | jnsie wrote:
       | > achieving a level of poignancy alongside its humour
       | 
       | This quote about a particular episode sums up Bluey for me. It's
       | tremendously well written - funny to both kids and adults alike,
       | and often hits you in the feels. It's genuinely good TV.
        
       | smusamashah wrote:
       | We don't let our toddler watch Bluey. You can't show characters
       | fighting verbally or physically and then later _explain_. You CAN
       | NOT EXPLAIN to kids. If they see something being done, it can be
       | done. So no Bluey for my kid.
        
         | 0xbadcafebee wrote:
         | Because your kid is never going to see humans fighting in real
         | life? Kids don't fight other kids until they see other people
         | fighting first?
         | 
         | Play fighting is normal human behavior. In the show they can
         | see the characters resolve their differences and make up. Not
         | so much with the lady in the checkout line screaming, or the
         | dude fighting the other dude outside wal-mart for the last
         | playstation 7.
         | 
         | Bluey is probably the last thing in the universe that's going
         | to screw your kid up.
        
       | jslaby wrote:
       | There is a sizable consumer base that buys episodes specifically
       | for their dog. It is one of the few shows my dog will lay down
       | and watch, which I guess is attributed to their use of "dog
       | friendly" colors.
        
       | 0xbadcafebee wrote:
       | tl;dr it's actually a really good show
        
       | thepasswordis wrote:
       | Our kids absolutely adore this show, and so do my wife and I. It
       | is just about the only thing we'll let them watch.
       | 
       | As others have said: it's because the show isn't trying to force
       | any ridiculous cultural progressivism on my children.
       | 
       | But also: it doesn't seem to be made by (am I joking?) the same
       | people who would otherwise make slot machines. While other kids
       | shows seem like an outright attack on my children's attention,
       | this show is just happy, wholesome short stories about a family
       | having fun together. We absolutely _adore_ this show in my
       | household.
       | 
       | As a sidenote: it's very hopeful to me that a show like this
       | (utterly non-political, just shows a happy family) is as popular
       | as it is. It's culturally dominant for kids. I hope this is a
       | lesson for Disney et al. (Disney+ does carry this show in the US,
       | but it is not produced by them.)
        
         | QuercusMax wrote:
         | Even though it's not political, the right-wingers feel the need
         | to make their own version with "traditional family values".
         | It's called Chip Chilla:
         | https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/oct/17/is-new-kids-...
         | 
         | Seems ridiculous to me; they show "traditional" gender roles in
         | the ripoff show to avoid "indoctrination".
        
       | calmworm wrote:
       | Love the show, all around great characters, stories, problem
       | solving and conflict resolution... One thing I've found strange
       | is what items/scenes they choose to change ("censor") from the AU
       | version to the US version. Could be a Disney decision and the
       | mouse gets what it wants but still...
        
       | ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
       | The stuff which makes it out of Australia in terms of media,
       | food, and software (hello Sublime Text) is some of the best.
       | 
       | What confuses me is why are their politics so messed up when it
       | comes to tech.
        
       | dccoolgai wrote:
       | "Lucky's Dad" is low-key the best character in the show.
        
       | bgmeister wrote:
       | Fun fact for the non-Australians, the actor who plays Bandit is
       | part of an awesome indie-rock band named Custard formed in the
       | late 80s. Worth checking out if you're into that sort of thing.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custard_(band)
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v03j7my0V6c (relatively recent
       | single)
        
       | gnicholas wrote:
       | Bluey is entertaining, and my kids like watching it. However,
       | we've noticed that the behavior of the kids (pups) on the show is
       | a bit contagious...and our little one has started mimicking some
       | of the kids' bad behavior/sayings. This is a very big change from
       | her normal personality, so we're yanking Bluey from the rotation
       | in favor of Daniel Tiger and other similar shows. YMMV, of
       | course, but for us the entertainment value is outweighed by the
       | negative impact on behavior.
        
       | gnicholas wrote:
       | One thing we've been unable to figure out: is the phrase "for
       | real life" (seemingly a portmanteau of "for real" and "in real
       | life") a phrase that is used in Australia, or is it a Bluey-
       | specific neologism?
       | 
       | Hopefully some HNers down under can enlighten us!
        
         | axolttl88 wrote:
         | 'For real' is definitely an Australian-ism (pretty old
         | fashioned, usually inflected up as an incredulous question 'fa
         | REAL?', but I've not really heard 'For real life'. Could be a
         | kid thing.
        
       | benr wrote:
       | Here's a podcast with the creator of Bluey about how he 'Dads' in
       | real life that I suspect a few of you might enjoy.
       | 
       | https://howotherdadsdad.com/episode/how-joe-brumm-dads
        
       | robbomacrae wrote:
       | Bluey is #1 but I haven't seen Wild Kratt's mentioned anywhere
       | yet. It's given my son a great introduction to the animal kingdom
       | and given him a lot of ammunition for the animal guessing game.
        
       | ssss11 wrote:
       | Bluey is an absolute master piece.
        
       | mech4bg wrote:
       | I saw some people wondering if there will be more shows - my kids
       | use the iView app and a VPN to watch Bluey (which has been handy
       | to get access early to new episodes!) and they've been
       | advertising they'll be doing a long-form 28 minute episode this
       | year.
        
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