[HN Gopher] Sit.
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Sit.
Happy New Year everyone. Now, please share with a friend who needs
to sit the fuck down or enjoy the experience yourself. Why I built
it: https://sonnet.io/posts/sit/ and
https://untested.sonnet.io/Projects+and+apps+I+built+for+my+...
Author : rpastuszak
Score : 168 points
Date : 2024-01-04 16:49 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| canpolat wrote:
| Thanks for sharing. It's not immediately obvious from the site:
| does this offer anything more than a usual timer?
| lambdaba wrote:
| Yes, but you have to sit a little to find out...
| canpolat wrote:
| Cool, thanks. I'll give it another shot, then.
| rpastuszak wrote:
| Nope, it's just a dumb timer telling people to sit down and do
| nothing. More about that:
|
| https://untested.sonnet.io/MISS+-+Make+It+Stupid%2C+Simple
|
| Similarly, Enso (enso.sonnet.io) is just a dumber <textarea>
| bramblerose wrote:
| There's a blog post by the author explaining the context at
| https://sonnet.io/posts/sit/ . But really, just sit :-)
| dang wrote:
| That page is more informative and probably the better link for
| HN, so I've switched to it above from https://sit.sonnet.io/.
| Thanks!
|
| (I also bent the rules and let the title have a trailing
| period.)
| ahmedfromtunis wrote:
| Very useful and beautiful, thanks for sharing!
|
| This also gave me the idea to use web tech to build the timer I
| always wanted, which is the reverse of this one: a bong when the
| timer expires, but also ticks every minute (or 5) while the timer
| is running.
|
| Edit: you also have a very beautiful website... and extremely
| nice drawings!
| bob88jg wrote:
| I suffer from extreme time blindness and one apparent solution
| to this is to have a regular metronome like pulse - I would
| love an app for say a smart watch or something that did this
| with vibrations!
| uhhyeahdude wrote:
| There is an iOS/watchOS metronome app literally called
| "Pulse" that provides haptic feedback. That might get you
| part of the way there
| rpastuszak wrote:
| Hehe, I'm also working on a "metronome for my attention":
|
| https://untested.sonnet.io/Things+to+support+my+own+well-bei...
|
| hit me up via hello @ <website> or my newsletter on
| untested.sonnet.io and I'll message you when I have it.
| ragtagtag wrote:
| I opened the webpage, settled myself down, and clicked "Start". A
| lovely _bong_ resonated through my headphones, and I relaxed.
|
| Immediately, one of the foster kitten sidled past me with a half-
| butchered gecko, still weakly struggling. I leapt up, grabbed a
| nearby broom, and gave chase. What followed was an episode of Tom
| & Jerry, but with more swearing. As I managed to part the cat
| from the gecko and punt the gecko outside, a calm _bong_ brought
| me to my senses.
|
| 1/10, this did not make me sit.
| rpastuszak wrote:
| So sorry to hear that! Perhaps this mrr will soothe your cat
| instead: https://mrr.sonnet.io
| ragtagtag wrote:
| Ah! Well the kittens didn't get up to any nonsense while I
| scrolled, they just sat, cleaning the poop that they had
| kicked up the wall off their legs... so 10/10, great success!
| Thank you! Now I just need to scroll endlessly...
|
| (Sardine is the kitten who led the Great Gecko Chase; Anchovy
| is the kitten who meditatively masterminded the Amazing Poop
| Fling. Really need to get these guys adopted out.)
| SeanAnderson wrote:
| Trying to use technology to get people to spend some time
| meditating is fun :) I especially enjoyed the gong sound, the
| font selection, and the friendly wording in your app.
|
| My WIP attempt at achieving something similar: https://ant.care/
|
| There's a button "breathe for food" that'll trigger a similar
| effect as your website. The difference is that the user is given
| a digital reward ("food") which they use to feed their digital
| ant colony.
|
| I'm now trying to add intelligent behaviors to the ant colony in
| an attempt to make them seem alive and compelling enough for
| users to repeatedly engage with the breathwork exercises.
|
| Good luck with your project! :)
| rpastuszak wrote:
| Hey Sean, I'm familiar with it, great work!
|
| I think you should share it with
| https://mastodon.cloud/@futurebird@sauropods.win a.k.a.
| myrmepropagandist
| SeanAnderson wrote:
| :) Thanks. And sure, I can share it with them. Thanks for the
| suggestion!
| jpsouth wrote:
| I'm curious what the ants are up to, do they do a great deal
| currently?
|
| I've been running it for a short while and they've dug a little
| L shape with blue pheromones vertically, and purple
| horizontally - looks like they are putting food in the
| horizontal but one ant is stuck behind a food block. Poor
| Taquan.
|
| Edit: the 'view crater' button also crashes the simulation, at
| least on an M2 Air using Chrome 120
| jpsouth wrote:
| Ah, I'll say no more but they are up to something! Cool.
| SeanAnderson wrote:
| So, ant.care is intentionally designed to be a slow moving
| experience, goal is to have it unfold over real-world months,
| but until I get sufficient environmental depth it's going to
| feel weird. I give the user the ability to control time in
| sandbox mode to provide a practical means of demoing.
|
| The queen will give birth to worker ants every hour or so.
| Worker ants have a low chance of applying tunnel/nesting
| pheromones when they are surrounded by other ants. So, when
| your colony grows to a few worker ants then they'll start
| digging more tunnels and chambers to give themselves space.
| Food is taken from the surface and brought into the nest and
| has a higher probability of being dropped near other food
| which allows for food piles to form over time.
|
| Ants go to sleep at night (not realistic, but I thought it
| was cute) and, if they're well fed, can regurgitate food to
| other hungry ants (like the queen, who can't move once giving
| birthing). They'll emote when these things occur.
|
| And oops, yeah crater view shouldn't be live. I forgot I
| shipped an update live to debug iOS performance (works on
| iphones now without crashing!). The goal is to get a "top-
| down" view and to let ants leave the nest to forage for food,
| but have been struggling with architecture issues blocking me
| from it for a while.
| scrozier wrote:
| I came, I sat, I conquered. So simple, yet immediately effective.
| (Full disclosure: I'm a regular meditator, so it's pretty easy
| for me to slip into mindful awareness.)
|
| Thank you for this!
| rpastuszak wrote:
| Thanks, I use it to meditate myself (shi-ne).
|
| I often set a minimal timer (e.g. 15 m) and then, either:
|
| - use the 1-minute interval to get a rough idea of how much
| time has passed, or
|
| - practice different breathing patterns (e.g. 3 breaths per
| minute)
| inferense wrote:
| this is cool as well as your other side projects :)
| rpastuszak wrote:
| Thanks! there's also a group version of this app / little
| experiment I've been playing with. Working title "Space
| Kalimba".
|
| https://nothing-together.sonnet.io
|
| Sometimes * I communicate with random people via that site,
| without any words, just sending little "plomks" to each other.
|
| * literally 30 seconds ago!
| tslocum wrote:
| If you are interested in a FOSS option for android check out
| Meditation Assistant:
|
| https://code.rocket9labs.com/tslocum/meditationassistant
| WallyFunk wrote:
| Interesting project. One thing I noticed: when I clicked the
| button, a fullscreen window got spawned, without any prompt
| asking me if I should enter fullscreen (Latest Firefox). On a
| sidenote: this could be used for browser-in-the-browser
| attacks[0] where someone could present a mock browser UI with a
| fake URL.
|
| Other than that, it's a great project. Anything to just sit
| without distractions gives us an unfair advantage over the
| majority of the world's population who are addicted to phones.
|
| [0] https://mrd0x.com/browser-in-the-browser-phishing-attack/
| JoshTriplett wrote:
| Browsers allow entering fullscreen as long as it's in response
| to user input, such as clicking a button. When entering
| fullscreen, browsers emit a prompt about exiting fullscreen,
| partly to make sure people know how to exit and partly to make
| sure entering fullscreen doesn't go unnoticed. So, it'd be hard
| to pull off such an attack.
| badcppdev wrote:
| UI only goes to 100 minutes. What if I want to have a really
| serious sit and think
| rpastuszak wrote:
| ugh FINE, just pushed an update with 999 minutes (I'm too lazy
| to touch CSS during my holiday break). See you in 17 hours!
| echelon_musk wrote:
| Not that anyone asked:
|
| I've long given up on meditation timers. I go to a room without
| any digital technology except for a Casio F91W. I have gotten
| good at gauging how long I've been concentrating for and if I
| have aversion to continued sitting I just peek at the watch to
| know how long it's been.
|
| This is a solved problem that costs $0 and I don't have to worry
| about receiving personalised ads because I'm into 'mindfulness'.
| saulpw wrote:
| Yup. I count my breaths in batches of 12 (batch count on the in
| breath, breath count on the out breath). So like "1-1, 1-2,
| ..., 1-12, 2-1, 2-2" and it works out that the batch count is
| the number of minutes I've been meditating. So if I want to
| meditate for 10 minutes I do 10x 12-counts. No technology
| needed, can be done anywhere, anytime.
| CrypticShift wrote:
| > No technology needed, can be done anywhere, anytime.
|
| I call this doing nothing with... nothing. It aligns closer
| to the spirit of emptiness.
| kaosnetsov wrote:
| I haven't heard about this before, did you learn it from
| someone? I usually just count breaths up to 10 and then
| restart and have a timer for 10 minutes - the timer usually
| ruins the mood. This is genius and I'm going to start doing
| this instead.
| smugglerFlynn wrote:
| There is also an amazing "together" mode: https://nothing-
| together.sonnet.io/
|
| https://untested.sonnet.io/Sit.%2C+(together)
| rpastuszak wrote:
| Thanks, I was wondering who _plomked_ with me just now. Then a
| bunch of people showed up.
|
| (plomking still feels more personal to me than communicating
| via text for some reason)
| smugglerFlynn wrote:
| I was also wondering why it feels more personal.
|
| Plomking feels more like making a gesture, and I think we
| still lack that in the online world. Any reactions on social
| media usually have deeper and more loaded meaning than, say,
| a nod of acknowledgement, or even a wink.
|
| I was wondering, could it be due to the value we mentally
| assign to our reactions when interacting online? "Liking" a
| post or message is never just about the "like", it is also:
|
| - forcing you to make a decison to "like" or not react (is
| this really worthy of my "like"?)
|
| - broadcasting to everyone that you've liked something
|
| - signaling the algorithms that there is some weight to the
| message
|
| - keeping permanent record of your "like"
|
| "Likes" and other reactions have so much weight and
| complexity behind them.. it kinda takes any intimacy and any
| human touch out of the equation.
| SeanAnderson wrote:
| This together mode is amazing. I want this combined with the
| sitting so I feel like I'm sitting with other people.
|
| I also kind of want to personalize the sound my gong makes and
| to be able to share that with others who are sitting. If we
| could create a sound bath with all our little gongs it would be
| sooooo cooool!
| robertlagrant wrote:
| Like: the design, idea, sound, and the fact you spell colour with
| a u. 10/10
|
| Don't like: "at the intersection of". 1/10
|
| Overall: 4/10.
| drusepth wrote:
| Just sat and stared out the window for five minutes and it was
| delightful.
|
| Ironically, however, I'll probably use this to _stand_ and stare
| out the window as a nice break from sitting all day.
|
| Thanks for providing the sound to make this tool eyes-free. Cool
| little demo.
| justinl33 wrote:
| Okay so
|
| > I was in a (unnamed cafe) browsing HN. I clicked on 'sit'.
| didn't expect the _gong_ noise & my headphones weren't connected
| - got strange looks from a couple people.
|
| > I'm usually super hyperfixated with things but I immediately
| just snapped into a zone. the 'you can stop looking at the screen
| for now' prompt was super helpful.
|
| > so just I let my eyes just wander, it felt weird to do so, but
| slowly felt those knots in my brain fizzle out
|
| > I started with the window, watched some people past - the usual
| mindfulness - nothing too interesting. started listening to the
| traffic on a car-by-car level which seemed to bring everything
| into scope. I saw a baby pigeon pick at something across the
| street, a mother lean down to kiss their baby in a pram.
|
| > then my gaze sort of drifted back into the cafe, both visually
| and audibly
|
| > I heard the coffee machine whir, listened to the waiters giving
| each other ordered - which felt sort of intrusive but also kind
| of like a superpower.
|
| > THEN I caught this waitress' gaze, and I shit you not, she
| smiled at me.
|
| > maybe it's because I looked like a creep sitting in a cafe
| watching people with an open laptop in front of me but...
|
| > I learnt things from that 2 minutes of mental silence. thank
| you
|
| edit: as I was writing this comment, the same waitress brought
| over my food and we had a chat!
|
| side note: on my Mac there seemed to be some kind of UI glitch
| with the minutes dropdown menu - it was gigantic
| geraldog wrote:
| Cool, but there's an error there. "Just sit" is not a Zen koan,
| although it is a meditative technique used in Zen-Buddhism,
| particularly the Japanese Soto school of Zen. See
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikantaza
| ShadowBanThis01 wrote:
| Is what?
| pedalpete wrote:
| In this, they are still trying to get the person to meditate. To
| sit with very little and wonder what they are doing wrong.
|
| A few months ago I created Harbor (getharbor.app) which played
| some sounds with some haptics and tried to get people to focus on
| the sensation of the haptics.
|
| I'm a meditator, but I know many people who aren't and trying to
| get them to just "sit" and do nothing is a challenge. Some people
| get stressed out about are they doing it "right".
|
| These are the challenges to try to overcome with meditation, so
| I'm not quite sure why Sit is different to other timers.
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